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timppu: Is it really so, or are we just assuming The Others are "dumber" than us that way, automatically believing everything they are told?

Naturally people want to hear what strengthens their own opinions (so neo-nazis are more likely to believe The Holocaust was a hoax, or the anarchists are more likely to believe that bank managers eat small babies for breakfast), but this also gives a level playing field to discredit those false rumors, and even the people who make them.

I think even common people have learned that there is also lots of false information out there. In my opinion any normal people learns that already in their childhood, sometimes people lie for different reasons.

All in all, I think internet also increases discussion (and arguments) between different people. Exchanging information. So not just reading what a newspaper told us, and then make up our own mind how we feel about it, or discuss with our closest friends. Now we can discuss about it with the whole world if we want to. Take for example Greece: discussing (and arguing) online the different point of view that people in different countries feel about it (including the Greeks themselves)?
People just want their own sense of superiority validated, which means that people tend to believe what they want to believe. This is the sentiment that the Boys from Lagos exploited for example: the belief that the recipient has somehow been specially chosen to perform this special job and get rich from it, and a lot of people still fall for it today, despite it being relatively common knowledge.

The playing field is nowhere near as level as you believe it is. Truth is almost always a middle ground, and the middle ground just doesn't interest people. The more outrageous the claim, the more interest it gathers, whereas the more mediocre the truth, the more likely it is to be ignored.
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timppu: To me that also demonstrates it is the limiting of data flow that is the problem, not the freedom of it. Those who are trying to push their own viewpoint, are also trying to control the data flow.
People are very rarely in favour of actual freedom of information - when most political interests quote "freedom of speech" and "freedom of opinion", what they actually mean is that they want to level the playing field to make it easier for them to gain control of the flow of information.

As you say, far-left anarchists claim to be all in favour of absolute freedom, but frequently stoop to censorship and strict moderation on online forums. Far-right extremists claim to value freedom of opinion, but really only want to have a soapbox to shout out their vile views with impunity, again to gain control.
Post edited September 22, 2015 by jamyskis
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jamyskis: The playing field is nowhere near as level as you believe it is. Truth is almost always a middle ground, and the middle ground just doesn't interest people. The more outrageous the claim, the more interest it gathers, whereas the more mediocre the truth, the more likely it is to be ignored.
I guess we just have to disagree with that. For instance, all the people I personally know are neither neo-nazis nor anarchists, and have no sympathy for either. Most people at least here seem to want to stay in the middle ground.

Also, I feel common people do quite often feel angry if someone had fed them false information, even if it was something they'd otherwise agree with.
Post edited September 22, 2015 by timppu
No it is not.

Internet is a medium, not the goal.
you can use it well, you can use it badly.
Online there is everything, both serious sites, both sites to avoid.
What we must do is not to say that the internet is shit, is to teach our children to use it.
Many parents were born in an era pre-computer, they find it difficult to learn, so they leave their children without a guide.
It's like leaving a knife, can be used for cooking or to kill someone, if you do not know how to use it you can cut yourself.
If the parents instead of using the computer / tablet / smartphone only to facebook / twitter, learn to use these mediums they may teach their children how to use the "knife" in the right way.
Blame the internet is like blaming the knife because it cuts.
The same can be said for censorship, if the parents were aware their children there would be no need for censorship.
Sorry to say this but things went to shit long before the internet was invented, probably somewhere when mankind decided to become 'civilized', the internet just accellerates the general state of things.
Post edited September 22, 2015 by Strijkbout
A good carpenter doesn't blame his tools.

Because dear Brutus, the faut does lie in the stars but in ourselves.
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jamyskis: The playing field is nowhere near as level as you believe it is. Truth is almost always a middle ground, and the middle ground just doesn't interest people. The more outrageous the claim, the more interest it gathers, whereas the more mediocre the truth, the more likely it is to be ignored.
You mean a truth like "the internet is okayish, has benefits as well as some issues" is more likely to be ignored than an outrageous claim like "the internet is shit and society has definitely worsened because of it"? ;)