I think in a lot of cases it is a mix of nostalgia and genre fatigue. We have so many options now comparatively to then that our standards are far too high. The old ones were good games. They still are good games. But they are not without their litany of problems and poor design choices. We just did not notice them at the time, as we did not know better, and now nostalgia protects their memory.

For me personally, Wasteland 2 boiled down to a tedious grind. All encounters were the same. No matter what sort of enemy attacked you, they all behave the same. Basically they rush your long range characters. That means combat, which is the largest segment of the game becomes a case of rinse & repeat.

On the subject of characters, some skills (assault rifles, for example) are incredibly overpowered, to the point where you don't need to take any other combat skill. Others are totally useless (submachine guns, for example).

Not a lot of C&C either. Few locations where you can influence things in a big way, but for the most part role playing takes the back seat. There are exceptions, like the Canyon, which clearly shows how great this game could have been. And there are some promising locations, like Damonta and Rail Nomads camp, which end up as a total let down.

Things might have improved with Director's Cut, but I haven't had the time to play it yet.

Underrail has impressed me so far. It's basically what Fallout 3 should have been. Lot's of way to role play a character and very innovative xp system, which doesn't force to kill everything you see but promotes exploration.

Hey Colin, I'd like to respond to you, but all you seem to have done is sprout meaningless buzzwords. Haven't improved much with consumers have you?

Anyway, not going to waste any more time on this topic, besides I'm pretty sure it's about time for you to recieve your daily serving from Bioware. Make sure not to spill any, though I'm sure you're long past that with all the practice you've had.





General response to everyone, sad to see the state these forums have degraded to. Downvoting someone merely for stating the truth. Have fun with your Approved Truths* only.
Hopefully I at least helped someone make an informed decision, regardless of whether they decided not to buy or buy and risk no support.






*approved truths may not actualy be true.

Good details. Thank you.

Cough, perhaps you should have recognized that I used the "third person". I am not "Colin". I was just pointing out that some patience would be good as it is weekend now and the game was released on GOG on a Friday evening.

all that talk about pirate and pirating and pirated stuff...
to use the word pirate or any other combinations of the word is wrong when talking about digital stuff or basically unprotected goods.

When a pirate came along with his ship(s) they took away all you had, even your lives if you were unlucky, there was nothing left.

So it is wrong to use the word pirate when things are not physically stolen, because copies cant be seen as an original, the original is still there, they are only copies, there is no real loss or damage, nothing is removed,
so nothing needs to be replaced, so no costs need to be made.

Until the (copyright)law and governments get there facts straight straight, they are sailing on a wrong course :D


Finally: whats the gain by distributing drm free stuff? there is NO honor for the (wannabe) pirates, no fame to gain, no achievenments to reach, it would be like walking in a vault that has its door wide open, get a truck and move everything in that vault in the truck and drive to freedom.

Real 'pirates' as they are wrongly called by the law when they talk about digital goods,arent pirates if you take away unprotected things, if in the past the ships with goods would have had no arms, no guns no cannons no army or guards, but only a sailing crew (like nowadays cabdrivers) then things would not be officially protected, therefore there would be no pirating if the door is wide open :D

So thats all theres to it, i assume the nonsens of discussing the pirating of drm free can be stopped, cause technically there is no pirating when there is no form of protection.
Maybe you can call it illegal distribution but thats not pirating, so silly discussions about that pirating stuff has become redundant.

i think you have been downvoted because you have called all customers who have bought the game on GOG = dumbasses.

i don't think that was a clever move.

For your acutal issue :

i think the problem is much more related to Desura itself.... (which has gone into bankruptcy).. It's pretty much understandable the dev doesn't want to update the version there (unfortunatly the ones who suffer to this are the custormers.....). I have to agree the dev should work to find a solution for this specific case .

But in any case, insulting gog's customers because you have a trouble with the dev, it's a no-go in my book.

I don't even know if it's even possible to get a working solution for the desura issue at this point. How do you know who bought your game if you can't get into contact with desura to get that info? How about those people who bought the game on desura after they stopped sending money to devs? The whole desura thing is a mess and I don't know if there's even a workable solution to it :(

As far as I am aware Desura is bankrupt and in limbo if so that is the suppliers fault and that the dev. of the game has remedied this for his supporters by providing a steam key to every one of the backers that was on Desura which is great, steam keys over the game on gog has been discussed a few times around the internet and the developers usually go for steam keys because of wide spread dishonesty in people trying to re-sell the gog versions.

Piracy regardless of if people make up a story about it to justify it to themselves and encourage others is still piracy. Would you rather the dev. stopped his game altogether and just took your money? Reading some of these posts they are awfully norrow minded and entitled you seem full of hate, negativity and immaturity. I've been having a blast with the game so far as per some of my previous posts and your letting hatred around an issue to do with desura and your entitlement get in the way of enjoying and supporting a great game. (This is in my opinion put forward in a mature manner ib4 some on replies with teenage angst level abuse because they don't agree)

Since the dev. isn't a large multinational company I dare say he has thousands of emails and questions in his inbox and doesn't have the capacity to reply to each individually.

For less then $20 I got a great game that I am loving and having fun and that has a whole stack of content and buying it on gog is drm free.

There isn't any of that.

I don't think it uses any of those.
You can save anywhere and anytime except when you're in combat. There are also autosave options.

Actually, this seems to be on purpose to reward stealth and people who scout ahead instead of blundering into encounters. With high stealth you can see enemies without them noticing you and then back up to your weapon's maximum range to snipe them.
For once, stealth is actually a very useful skill, especially if you choose the xp system that doesn't give xp for fights.

yes, that's a real mess :[ especially if you bought a game directly from Desura.... I don't have a solution .... the only logical thing is to send all proof to the dev, but you are right to the point if the dev didn't received its share from Desura, the situation is complicated... it's more a less the devs who are willing to try to find a workaround for a drm-free copy....

actually the dev sent steam keys to even desura buyers.... so the solution isn't unsolvable, the problem is much more specific since some users doesn't want to use Steam, i could unserstand them (even if i use it). and want an updated non-steam copy....as i said those who suffers are desura customers and even the dev (who probably didn't received all the money from desura sales...)

I've got the game wishlisted and I can see people are enjoying it but what is the game's problems if it has any?

If the mother was doing crack.

No peddling your wares here sir!

It has some typos, but nothing major. Also, there was some sort of crash under specific circumstances - haven't experienced it myself - but hotfix is already live on Steam, so GOG shouldn't be far behind.

Some people have complained about small font on high resolutions, but at 1080p larger font version is perfectly legible.