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hedwards: The equipment affected by this sort of thing has to have AC at least as far as the point where the clock is powered.
Makes sense. I like to think that most electrical devices run on DC, but then again motors and other things work fine in AC. If they are built based on the timing of the AC... hmmm THAT could be interesting...

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hedwards: Theoretically, this is something that should be handled in hardware in some respect. I saw a video of somebody reviewing a retro console that was made for the EU market in the US and it behaved kind of funny because it wasn't the right frequency.
I was watching a side by side comparison of Sonic 2...

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hedwards: In general though, consoles tend to base a lot of the timing on what the expected output is for historical reasons. Although, that's unlikely to be true in recent systems. The newer systems are basically just computers that can handle different refresh rates without caring as they're likely variable rate.
Yep.

Back with older consoles you had to cycle count how long the instructions took so you could fit everything you wanted before the next scanline hit. This actually was talked about in detail in Once Upon Atari, i think it was like 72 cycles...

Today, a lot of overhead/fluff/framework means efficiency is lower, but the machines are a lot more powerful. And then there's the whole programming for variable FPS, which while it works, the overhead in extra calculations in delta time vs fixed FPS there's quite a bit there.

There's upsides and downsides... I think most of the downsides are with the corporations, and less with the hardware/frameworks...
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RottenRotz: hope its nothing serious.cheers
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Fonzer: It was paranoid schizophrenia at the age of 23, was hospitalized for 2 months, probably the most worse experience in life.Was never hospitalized again only finding a job was impossible especially since on rehabilatation i couldn't reach 30% work efficency or something and was then deemed unemployable but the way i work and what i work in social inclusion i doubt that i am actually unemployable i only can't stand working for 8 hours all the time i sometimes work 7 or mostly 6 hours there.
And there are a lot of people unemployable once getting seriously sick, i think the country is just pushing us away and won't have available work force if they don't stop this which is already happening in some categories. The only real problem with schizophrenia i had was in those 2 months of hospitalization and before when i didn't realize it. The pills truly helped to stop my thought rush when it came which i couldn't sleep because of it. The pills did have some negative effects though, but i did get different pills once and those really don't have negative effects like my first pills.
Talking about coincidence,my cousin found out he has it just few weeks ago..Its a real life stopper...
Same here, never owned a console and never will. So far the only game that I would like to play from console exclusives is Horizon: Zero Dawn, but I won't buy a PS4 for just one game.
Thanks, everyone, for sharing your thoughts and suggestions! It was interesting to read about such a wide range of gaming experiences and perspectives across the last how-many decades.

I will definitely give games like Ys and EvilQuest a try when I have a chance. Unless someone locally donates their systems and games to me out of the goodness of their heart, I'm accepting that it'll never be financially sound for me to invest in consoles. So long as good alternatives exist for PC users, that's all that really matters. There's a world of fun to be had without ever touching a controller.

Aside from Crystalis and Zelda II, there aren't very many other titles or genres that jump out at me. One major exception would be Zombies Ate My Neighbors, which began to really pique my interest after I started this thread. From what I've seen on Youtube, it's challenging...but absurdly entertaining. If I'm unable to try it someday, I hope there are similar games available for the PC.

After learning about Super R-Type on Until We Win, I felt strangely compelled to try Stargunner for the first time recently. I remember seeing screenshots of it in an old issue of PC Gamer, and I thought it looked kind of fun. So, here's a video of me struggling through the first level or so earlier today. It seems to be a lot more forgiving than Silver Surfer, but damn, is it hard! I guess I don't need to track down a cart of The Guardian Legend anymore - my hands are full as it is.
Post edited April 25, 2018 by lanipcga
My console gaming wishlist, should I ever get filthy rich:

1. Crystalis

2. Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

3. Zombies Ate My Neighbors

4. The Guardian Legend

5. Hagane: The Final Conflict
Little update: I bought me one of the newer version of the PSX (It's a PS1 I think). It is smaller than the original console, but it is playing games just fine.
I played NES and SNES before moving to PC gaming pretty much full time ever since. I did play some Goldeneye and Zelda 64 on a friend's Nintendo 64. I often miss the fun NES and SNES games of my youth but 99 times out of 100 when I load them in an emulator I end up bored very quickly. Obviously this isn't true for everyone if you pay any attention at all to sites like Kotaku and whatnot, but for me those were very much a child thing and then I got into "adult" games. Again, that's for me personally.

You know what game is awesome and has an awesome soundtrack I still listen to though? Super Castlevania IV. I have strong memories of that sucker. Also Link to the Past of course.
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BStone: Little update: I bought me one of the newer version of the PSX (It's a PS1 I think). It is smaller than the original console, but it is playing games just fine.
If you want to play something like Zelda, check Brave Fencer Musashi. That's one of the best game released on the system
Going to echo everyone else and say use an emulator. Honestly, one of the best parts of PC gaming is getting to play pretty much all of the old console games for free and with enhanced features like save states and speed up. Technically not legal, sure (assuming you don't already own the games you're looking to emulate), but nobody gives anywhere near enough of a shit to sue or anything.
If anyone cares, the Mini NES has an official re-Release date of June 29th.

I would imagine it will be the same bullshit as last time. I'll log into Amazon, be unable to get one into my cart, five minutes later Amazon will announce they are sold out, and five minutes after that they will go back on sale for $200 a piece.
1. Crystalis

2. ???

3. Zombies Ate My Neighbors

4. The Guardian Legend

5. Hagane: The Final Conflict

I modified my hypothetical wishlist after I suddenly felt less interested in trying Zelda II. As for a replacement game, I'm having a hard time deciding between Terranigma, Illusion of Gaia, and Secret of Mana. I know virtually nothing about those games, but the screenshots I've seen kind of appeal to me. Heck, I could even remove The Guardian Legend and Hagane from my list just so I can add all three.

I think fantasy football is a silly hobby, and yet here I am.

I recently watched AVGN's lengthy Earthbound review, and I've gotta say it looks and sounds like a cool game. A quarter of the way through the video, I felt like I was seriously missing out on an awesome adventure. But then, as the review went on, my enthusiasm got tempered as I learned about the game's annoying quirks and general complexity. That's why it's not a serious contender for my wishlist.
I didn’t completely miss out on consoles. But I feel like I’ve missed out on the majority of the modern “console experience”. I've been a PC gamer since the late 80's, and have always seen consoles as this "other experience" that's off to the side, which I've occasionally dabbled in.

I grew up with the Atari VCS (2600) and ColecoVision. But after the console crash of the early 80s, my interest in video games waned a bit. I dabbled with the NES a bit in the late 80's (it was in my brother's room -- he let me play it occasionally), and later the original Xbox around 2002 (seriously... I bought it more as a DVD and music player -- the fact it could play games was almost a novelty extra, I only bought a couple games for it). More recently, the wife and I purchased a Wii U for the kids, but we've never really played much on it ourselves.

After the mid 80's, I've always felt like I was a PC gamer, and consoles were this "other thing" off to the side, even in the few cases when I've owned one. Prime example: my main purpose for buying the Xbox was to use it as a media player, and not a game console.

Now I look back on many of the old console games that I never played and think "I might have liked that game... but consoles were never really my thing." It makes me wonder: if those games were available on the PC, would I have played them? Would they have been as good on the PC platform? Or was part of those games' classic experience because of the console platform they were designed for? Of course, we now have console emulators on the PC, and the ability to connect console controllers to a PC, so you really can experience many of those older games on the PC in very close to their original console form.
Post edited June 14, 2018 by Ryan333
I'm pretty sure the first time I even got a console (GameBoy, the smaller black and white version) was when I was 11. All my friends were raving about PCs, Playstation, Nintendo, Sega and Dreamcasts. I completely missed out on all of that. Also, before you ask, I had no neighbors or friend I could go to play video games with. Yes, I did get to play here and there with my cousins' console but that was during maybe two of the summers throughout my entire life.

What I did spend my time playing was Toy Story on the gameboy which was a 2d platformer. I doubt I ever completed it. I got into playing Pokemon red and blue when I was in 5th grade, probably around when I was 12.

I got my first console, a PS2 when I was in high school and I played a lot of games on that. I only completed 3, however. Dragonball Z Budukai, Two Grand Theft Autos and Metal Gear Solid 2 are the ones I beat on PS2. After that, I got the PSP and I beat Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops. I got the Xbox 360 after I was a senior. I got to play it very little since college took over after that. In fact, the last time I ever truly beat a game before that was Portable Ops which was on PS2.

After that, I got into PC gaming and I completed the first Witcher. That was maybe 15 years after I beat Portable Ops. So, when I tell people I'm a casual gamer, you could be sure that 1) I'm over exaggerating and 2) You could beat me at my own game and any game for that matter including tic-tac-toe.