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I believe GOG thought Hegemony games wouldn't sell here because of the sadly Hegemony III Kickstarter's failure.

Or... Do have GOG a contract with SEGA for the foreseen future, and Rome Total War would be a serious competitor?
Or... Something happened related to Kalypso, the previous publisher of Hegemony Rome?
Or... Nothing at all...

Maybe I shouldn't have been so angry at Paradox for not releasing their games on GOG. The problem perhaps ended on GOG that time. And Pillars of Eternity opened the gates, but otherwise, Paradox games, especially Sim/Strategy ones, were too niche at that time.
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Huinehtar: Or... Do have GOG a contract with SEGA for the foreseen future, and Rome Total War would be a serious competitor?
Interesting to see them as competitors. The TW Rome players that would be interested in Hegemony II would probably end up owning both rather than make a choice between the two. The 2 games play very differently though, with hegemony requiring you to be much more mult-tasked than any TW game.
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Huinehtar: Or... Something happened related to Kalypso, the previous publisher of Hegemony Rome?
That's perhaps one path to explore indeed. Hegemony II was the first game under Kalypso's new label, Kasedo. that's a label that stays very quiet to say the least. Hegemony III is, unless I'm mistaken, not published by Kalypso/Kasedo.
Post edited September 28, 2015 by Phc7006
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Phc7006: Interesting to see them as competitors. The TW Rome players that would be interested in Hegemony II would probably end up owning both rather than make a choice between the two. The 2 games play very differently though, with hegemony requiring you to be much more mult-tasked than any TW game.
Indeed, there is a dichotomy (Strategy/Tactics) in Total War games which isn't in Hegemony games, and the chain supply is a factor not enough seen in Total War. In the end, the games are for different tastes.
I have forgotten the Europa Universalis: Rome which is different too. That game is often forgotten when going to Rome Grand Strategy games. And it isn't a bad game.

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Phc7006: That's perhaps one path to explore indeed. Hegemony II was the first game under Kalypso's new label, Kasedo. that's a label that stays very quiet to say the least. Hegemony III is, unless I'm mistaken, not published by Kalypso/Kasedo.
You're right, and that's why Longbow went to Kickstarter, but they didn't get enough recognition to succeed (maybe, the state of Hegemony Rome on Steam was bad press, and fewer people tried the original one which is still great).


It is interesting that GOG is currently having promos on wargames this week. Sadly, it went on bad timing for myself (and I am more interested in larger scale wargames).
Hopefully, more people will be interested in those games and in strategy games in general (pun intended :P)
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Phc7006: The sad thing for me is that they don't intend, for the time being, to have a drm-free version on H3 on their own website.
I asked them about that again and the reason why they won't do it is that they don't have the ressources to support it in their own store. At least the kickstarter shoved them there is still some interest in their games. I just hope they won't go the way of Blind Mind Studios (excellent space rts) anytime soon although I know they are going through bad times at the moment.
Post edited September 29, 2015 by Matruchus
Voting. I have the original Hegemony: Philip of Macedon (bought from them at GenCon, first release). I stopped following them, but it'd be nice to get a nice copy here with the updates and stuff.
Post edited September 29, 2015 by mqstout
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mqstout: Voting. I have the original Hegemony: Philip of Macedon (bought from them at GenCon, first release). I stopped following them, but it'd be nice to get a nice copy here with the updates and stuff.
If you to their site and create an account, you can register a game that you have purchased elsewhere. You will then be able to download an up to date version !

https://www.longbowgames.com/gamereg/
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Matruchus: At least the kickstarter shoved them there is still some interest in their games. I just hope they won't go the way of Blind Mind Studios (excellent space rts) anytime soon although I know they are going through bad times at the moment.
Sad news that would be..
Post edited September 29, 2015 by Phc7006
I emailed them directly and they said, to paraphrase, GOG rejected them because their games are "too niche".

Chalk another WTF up for GOG. They'll add every version of Paradox grand strategy games (no offense to Paradox) -- including their "Rome" one -- but no other, similar, games like, oh, Hegemony.

GOG's filled with niche games! Hell, one of the top sellers -- Theme Hospital -- is SUPER niche. Tons of the first page are filled with the micromanagement city builders (eg, Caesar/?Pharaoh). They're quite niche. And how about all the point and click adventures? You could say GOG's founded on niche by that metric.

*sigh*

Is there a thread collecting publishers/titles known to be rejected by GOG?
Post edited September 30, 2015 by mqstout
Ill add another WTF here. These are GREAT games. I have Rome already but I would get it and the other games they have, because they seem to be a developer I can trust.
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mqstout: GOG's filled with niche games!
Of course they are. And the market of classic games is a niche as well. But if they don't say that, they will say that they have to limit the number of games they admit to keep their "boutique approach". That doesn't cust the mustard, does it ?

That they release the Paradox games is one thing, as these are well established games with a dedicated audience, but why do they take some risks ( f.i. they plan to release Mini Metro, nad there we speak about a real niche thing ) and refuse other that, at first glance, look more tempting. Now, of course, GOG has a bird'seye view on its operations and customers that we don't have. So, mybe the crowd here is all about things like "Strong Bad's Cool Game" or "Dropsy", I don't know....

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mqstout: Is there a thread collecting publishers/titles known to be rejected by GOG?
There is this thread : http://www.gog.com/forum/general/games_gog_has_passed_on_that_deserve_a_second_chance
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mqstout: Is there a thread collecting publishers/titles known to be rejected by GOG?
I guess this thread by Barry_Woodwards qualifies as that: http://www.gog.com/forum/general/games_gog_has_passed_on_that_deserve_a_second_chance
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Matruchus: Basically gog declined the release of Hegemony series since the games are supposedly "too niche" for them.
Well, at least, they care for more tastes than they used to by entering the "lula" niche. Maybe that's the point, Hegemony not featuring boobs as a key element of gameplay... grin
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Matruchus: I guess you missed my thread about Hegemony III. Basically gog declined the release of Hegemony series since the games are supposedly "too niche" for them. Eitherway I do hope if people vote for the games we might get them on gog one day.
Good ole GOG and their batshit randomness.
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Matruchus: Basically gog declined the release of Hegemony series since the games are supposedly "too niche" for them.
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Phc7006: Well, at least, they care for more tastes than they used to by entering the "lula" niche. Maybe that's the point, Hegemony not featuring boobs as a key element of gameplay... grin
Indeed, its seems to be quite a good idea to release shitty anime porn games for the niche 12 year old market, but a lot of games.out there, matching games already on the store, are being declined.
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nightcraw1er.488: snip
Take a deep breath, close your eyes, think of the blue sky and a fluffy cloud slowly floating across your view... more relaxed?

Now, be fair, there's a lot of market for something like Hunie Pop over 12yr of age. :P It appeals to Anime and Casual sensibilities and calling those two niche is to practically remove any meaning from the word niche. Just like implying anything porn like is niche... though you're also stretching on what constitutes porn. I know it when I see it, and Hunie Pop ain't it... at least based on the screenshots ;)

As for GOG's lack of focus on wargaming, I think it is quite obvious, so no disagreement on that front. It would be quite nice to get some meatier classic wargames and more complex strategy games on GOG. We can hope.
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nightcraw1er.488: snip
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Brasas: Take a deep breath, close your eyes, think of the blue sky and a fluffy cloud slowly floating across your view... more relaxed?

...snip
I am lying in bed, don't get more relaxed than this :o)

Its not just wargaming, games from all genres are being declined or ignored. Madman is one that jumps to mind.