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Don't answer the vanilla question if it was not hard claim. I remember 2 VT claims.
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cristigale: If Pooka is not the real Vig, shouldn't the real Vig shoot him?

I haven't thought about Laser's plan to know if it makes sense. Who all have claimed vanilla?
If Pooka is fake the real shooter might consider to shoot soon after we'll start bandwagon someone other than Pooka. In our case Lith. But if for some reason the real shooter consider Lith as likable victim who'll flip Town without any bulletproof vest on him, he might as well wait over for a Pooka lynch on D3 knowing that Pooka should flip as Mafia. So it's hard to know for sure. But I would shot soon after Joe's vote results. Probability of Pooka being fake is quite low.
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cristigale: If Pooka is not the real Vig, shouldn't the real Vig shoot him?

I haven't thought about Laser's plan to know if it makes sense. Who all have claimed vanilla?
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Cadaver747: If Pooka is fake the real shooter might consider to shoot soon after we'll start bandwagon someone other than Pooka. In our case Lith. But if for some reason the real shooter consider Lith as likable victim who'll flip Town without any bulletproof vest on him, he might as well wait over for a Pooka lynch on D3 knowing that Pooka should flip as Mafia. So it's hard to know for sure. But I would shot soon after Joe's vote results. Probability of Pooka being fake is quite low.
My brain is in slow mo...I read that three times to get it. That makes sense.

I agree, If Pooka is scum, I am befuddled.
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LASER97: Town can afford three mislynches before losing.
We have 2 mislynches left (including this one: Pooka shots Lith). Your plan might be great, but cop already used his power once and most likely on Town Vanilla.

Worst case scenario:
D2 > Town shot/lynch Town | Mafia kill Town - 2 Town (8 players remaining, incl. 3 Mafia)
D3 > Town lynch Town | Mafia kill Town - 2 Town (6 players remaining, incl 3 Mafia) - The End (3 Mafia vs 3 Town)
I was speaking theoretically if Pooka hadn't taken the shot. My plan is less effective now of course.
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Carradice: Yes, that is my current read on you. Are you offended because other players have reads on you?

*Sigh* Talk about overreactions?

Are you pulling my leg or what? I guess I will find after the game ends (or maybe before, with a little bit of luck?).

In case there is any doubt, right now will NOT vote for the Lift, nor for Shirley Primalley.
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Cadaver747: I'm offended because you called me *a liar* (not literally but it's was the same for me) and because you labeled me as *lazy*. Yes, I'm impulsive, that's my problem. Not pulling your leg or anything. Let's agree that I'm a bad player and you are a good player and not discuss it again. Yes, you'll find out with or without any luck anyway.

I don't get what's the problem with double checking by placing a vote on Lith before Joe's next post but it's not my call, and probably it's not my game either.

I don't understand your remark about SPF >>> AT ALL.
But feel free to not reply to me anything.
So, to sum it up, I did not call you a liar, nevertheless you are are offended because I suppossedly called you a liar, which I did not, and you admit I did not. Ahem. No more questions, Your Honor.

The remark about the vote is for the everyone, not just for you. I thought it was clear.

The “not replying” bit is beyond me. I have been replying to you all the game?

Do you realize that you are the player who is currently holding more suspects, by far? Are they all to be offended with you? Hey and I just put you with Scenes. Scenes is a nice guy. Well, I really do not know, but he might be a nice guy. If you stay in your own regular townie self, I guess you will be back up?

It is good to keep in mind the language barrier. GOG Mafia is so awesome that brings together all kind of players. It is a great chance to learn something from each other (like, how to NOT play Mafia, sometimes).

I will be here... *looks to the setting sun in the horizon*


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@Lazy: OK, before we strip off our clothes and sunbath to show our private roles, both the regular and those endowed with powers and whatnot, have you thought this through? Have you taken pen and paper? Have you considered the possibilities? Do you think that the setup can be broken for good right now, or it would require more game-days? We have already a power outed... So, you have a machine that writes and we can read your words. Can you explain your reasoning?

Meaning: You talk the talk. Will you walk the walk?
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cristigale: If Pooka is not the real Vig, shouldn't the real Vig shoot him?
I would hope so!

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cristigale: I haven't thought about Laser's plan to know if it makes sense. Who all have claimed vanilla?
LASER, scene and Lift I believe.
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LASER97: Town can afford three mislynches before losing.
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Cadaver747: We have 2 mislynches left (including this one: Pooka shots Lith). Your plan might be great, but cop already used his power once and most likely on Town Vanilla.

Worst case scenario:
D2 > Town shot/lynch Town | Mafia kill Town - 2 Town (8 players remaining, incl. 3 Mafia)
D3 > Town lynch Town | Mafia kill Town - 2 Town (6 players remaining, incl 3 Mafia) - The End (3 Mafia vs 3 Town)
It might be worse. The cop might have spent his Action phase on Lift, or Pookie. Or Scenes, just to make sure.

But I will pay attention to anyone who actually offers some reasoning on how to break the setup... Those who have been playing for long surely must be familiar with mafia theory?
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cristigale: Am I missing something?
Yes. I Town-read Cadaver and SPF. Interesting how you skip that.

By the way, Carradice feels quite towny as well and I guess by now I scum-read you. Happy?

Well, now we wait for Joe for the confirmation that I am indeed Town Regular.
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Carradice: So, to sum it up, I did not call you a liar, nevertheless you are are offended because I suppossedly called you a liar, which I did not, and you admit I did not. Ahem. No more questions, Your Honor.
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Carradice: Both statements are FALSE...
Again you're implying that I'm not truthful on my words even though I stated directly that it was not literally but it was how I take it. If you want to prove that you're right and I'm wrong fine: you're right and I'm wrong. I think everyone thinks same way.

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Carradice: The remark about the vote is for the everyone, not just for you. I thought it was clear.
Sorry for addressing you.

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Carradice: The “not replying” bit is beyond me. I have been replying to you all the game?
I don't want to talk to you about it, hope this time it's clear enough. I don't want you to reply to me. Hope it's clear enough as well.

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Carradice: Do you realize that you are the player who is currently holding more suspects, by far? Are they all to be offended with you? Hey and I just put you with Scenes. Scenes is a nice guy. Well, I really do not know, but he might be a nice guy. If you stay in your own regular townie self, I guess you will be back up?
Yes, I do. The could, they could not. Pooka was not particularly happy with labeled *stupid* I can fully understand him. We all can be nice guys, even I. I don't understand what do you mean about *my regular townie self*, so I don't know what would or wouldn't I back up.

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Carradice: It is good to keep in mind the language barrier. GOG Mafia is so awesome that brings together all kind of players. It is a great chance to learn something from each other (like, how to NOT play Mafia, sometimes).
Yes indeed.

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Carradice: I will be here... *looks to the setting sun in the horizon*
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Again, what I'm saying only makes sense if Pooka hadn't taken the shot. She fucked the entire town over with her arrogance.

There's 38 proven setups on this list. Try to identify how many have 3 power roles and a cop (spoiler: zero).

[url=https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Mini_Setups]https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Mini_Setups[/url]
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cristigale: Am I missing something?
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Lifthrasil: Yes. I Town-read Cadaver and SPF. Interesting how you skip that.

By the way, Carradice feels quite towny as well and I guess by now I scum-read you. Happy?

Well, now we wait for Joe for the confirmation that I am indeed Town Regular.
OMG, I am so sorry Lift, yes I missed that.
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Carradice: The “not replying” bit is beyond me. I have been replying to you all the game?
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Cadaver747: I don't want to talk to you about it, hope this time it's clear enough. I don't want you to reply to me. Hope it's clear enough as well.
OK, buddy. That settles it.
@Joe

Vote results please.
Joe went offline. Does that mean Lift is bulletproof, or is he blue balling us?