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karnak1: But, returning to my previous question, aside from being an online store where everything is sold, I don't see what other advantage it can have.
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Smannesman: The good working client that works on multiple OS', the easy to use website that allows publishers to do a lot of things themselves and the ginormous userbase.
And toxic.

I don't want to sound like a hater but...most of the times you go on a game's thread to ask some kind of "delicate" questions, you get attacked by trolls or ignorant people. This become especially true when you want to ask if x game is getting denuvo or not (lot of hate and trolling).

As much I hate steam for it's DRM, it's the only place in which I can get the latest titles avaiable, (without resorting to piracy obviously).

But what I found most annoying on steam is the absence of an "invisible" feature which could prevents your contats from seeing when you are playing something or not.

I really hope that GOG will keep increasing it's notoriety through Galaxy too (I'm not a true fan of the app, but I can still download the games I own in setup format and plus DRM free anyway, so I'm fine with it), because if people got lazy due to steam "being easy and quick to use", the same could be said in some years for galaxy too, making even pubblisher more likely to resort on GOG more than now.
Post edited December 18, 2016 by Gurlok
Eh, seems that most of those games from Steam don't even work. Some even suggest to get them from GOG if they want to play it. So there is some benefit from it.


The fact that their "released as it is" doesn't work that good.
GOG has loads of old games that Steam doesn't have and has better versions and versions with less faults and better support. I happily purchased the Dracula games on GOG because they were the proper versions, Steam doesn't have the proper versions, Steam reviews advised me to buy from GOG. As do many Steam reviews.

As a consumer though I only buy GOG or Steam when it makes most sense to me. If the exact same games are cheaper on sale on Steam I shop there. DRM doesn't bother me. I was going to buy all the old Sierra adventure games on GOG but ended up getting a humblebundle of them that was all Steam keys.

GOG doesn't need to appeal to the mass market to survive though. As long it picks up it's niche. Whether that's people wanting older games, people wanting DRM software or simply people buying a game on sale on GOG before it's on sale for Steam.

Actually an old game that doesn't run well on Steam where reviewers recommend GOG on Steam's site is maybe the best advertisement GOG could hope for.

GOGs problem could be the next generation of middle aged people who aren't after 80s, 90s or 00s games. If Steam manages to support games over the last 10 years and future years, in 10-15 years GOG may have a problem.
Post edited December 19, 2016 by supplementscene
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supplementscene: GOG has loads of old games that Steam doesn't have and has better versions and versions with less faults and better support. I happily purchased the Dracula games on GOG because they were the proper versions, Steam doesn't have the proper versions, Steam reviews advised me to buy from GOG. As do many Steam reviews.

As a consumer though I only buy GOG or Steam when it makes most sense to me. If the exact same games are cheaper on sale on Steam I shop there. DRM doesn't bother me. I was going to buy all the old Sierra adventure games on GOG but ended up getting a humblebundle of them that was all Steam keys.

GOG doesn't need to appeal to the mass market to survive though. As long it picks up it's niche. Whether that's people wanting older games, people wanting DRM software or simply people buying a game on sale on GOG before it's on sale for Steam.

Actually an old game that doesn't run well on Steam where reviewers recommend GOG on Steam's site is maybe the best advertisement GOG could hope for.

GOGs problem could be the next generation of middle aged people who aren't after 80s, 90s or 00s games.
+1 This
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Spy_Gentleman: Eh, seems that most of those games from Steam don't even work. Some even suggest to get them from GOG if they want to play it. So there is some benefit from it.

The fact that their "released as it is" doesn't work that good.
Most of these games getting released in the last few years are pretty much exactly the same as the GOG versions these days so this argument doesn't hold much water lately. Back 5+ years ago it was certainly true.
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supplementscene: GOG has loads of old games that Steam doesn't have and has better versions and versions with less faults and better support. I happily purchased the Dracula games on GOG because they were the proper versions, Steam doesn't have the proper versions, Steam reviews advised me to buy from GOG. As do many Steam reviews.

As a consumer though I only buy GOG or Steam when it makes most sense to me. If the exact same games are cheaper on sale on Steam I shop there. DRM doesn't bother me. I was going to buy all the old Sierra adventure games on GOG but ended up getting a humblebundle of them that was all Steam keys.

GOG doesn't need to appeal to the mass market to survive though. As long it picks up it's niche. Whether that's people wanting older games, people wanting DRM software or simply people buying a game on sale on GOG before it's on sale for Steam.

Actually an old game that doesn't run well on Steam where reviewers recommend GOG on Steam's site is maybe the best advertisement GOG could hope for.

GOGs problem could be the next generation of middle aged people who aren't after 80s, 90s or 00s games. If Steam manages to support games over the last 10 years and future years, in 10-15 years GOG may have a problem.
That's not the only issue. You need also to check if both versions (gog and steam) are one and the same; sadly most of the times many games on gog aren't updated properly, or if they lack some kind of bonus or dlc, or if both games launch at the same time, but the gog version doesn't get update at all (that's my major gripe with games gog versions).

Still, I believe that GOG should try to add more new games to it's store...
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Spy_Gentleman: Eh, seems that most of those games from Steam don't even work. Some even suggest to get them from GOG if they want to play it. So there is some benefit from it.

The fact that their "released as it is" doesn't work that good.
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Pheace: Most of these games getting released in the last few years are pretty much exactly the same as the GOG versions these days so this argument doesn't hold much water lately. Back 5+ years ago it was certainly true.
Yeah, generally GOG does some tweaking/little fix-up, gets some exclusivity, and eventually the games come to Steam. Like with Square Enix - years back one of the SE people said that we don't have Hitman Blood Money because it didn't need tweaking.

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If GOG goes under because people only want old games that run on new machines and/or games not already on Steam; and/or their reputation is forever tarnished because of continually out-of-date indie games to the point of bankruptcy; and/or if AAA publishers never bring any more highly-desired games here and that causes GOG to eventually fade out because everyone has bought all the games they want, will we rend our garments and cover ourselves in ashes and cry ourselves to sleep, or what will we do? That question is rhetorical.
Post edited December 19, 2016 by tfishell
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zeogold: Isn't that what the whole DRM-free thing is supposed to do? And pretty much the only (or at least main) reason to shop here?
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park_84: The DRM-free thing isn't that big of a selling point, many people don't care at all or don't get worried enough about getting DRM in what they're paying for.
To be fair, many old games on Steam are also DRM free. Nonetheless, I never buy a game on Steam if it is available on GOG.
Post edited December 19, 2016 by Pherim
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Pheace: Most of these games getting released in the last few years are pretty much exactly the same as the GOG versions these days so this argument doesn't hold much water lately. Back 5+ years ago it was certainly true.
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tfishell: Yeah, generally GOG does some tweaking/little fix-up, gets some exclusivity, and eventually the games come to Steam. Like with Square Enix - years back one of the SE people said that we don't have Hitman Blood Money because it didn't need tweaking.

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If GOG goes under because people only want old games that run on new machines and/or games not already on Steam; and/or their reputation is forever tarnished because of continually out-of-date indie games to the point of bankruptcy; and/or if AAA publishers never bring any more highly-desired games here and that causes GOG to eventually fade out because everyone has bought all the games they want, will we rend our garments and cover ourselves in ashes and cry ourselves to sleep, or what will we do? That question is rhetorical.
I really don't understand how come that some games don't get updated at all, it's beyond me.