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a chinese company (MTT) is going to launch its own 12nm gpu's:

"... These two new GPU models Moore Threads just announced are based on TSMC’s 12 nm transistors, so not really cutting edge. However, unlike other Chinese solutions, the MTT lineup shows strong support on the driver side and offers DirectX compatibility, plus AI features, excellent video coding / decoding, and even support for established 3D rendering programs.

Moore Threads recommends the MTT S60 for gaming, but the specs are quite modest, integrating 2048 cores based on the proprietary MUSA architecture plus 8 GB of LPGDDR4X, which theoretically allow for 6 TFLOPS. Performance-wise, this would at most match an Nvidia GTX 1070 launched 6 years ago. The MTT S2000 doubles the cores and TFLOPS and also offers 32 GB of VRAM, but this model is recommended for compute workloads.

League of Legends running in 1080p was chosen to demo the MTT S60 gaming capabilities, which is hardly a reliable benchmark, yet the driver support is where things start to get interesting. Some DX12 supported features include global illumination, advanced anti-aliasing methods, soft shadows, physical rendering, reflections, volumetric light etc. The GPU also supports OpenCL, SYCL, Vulkan, OpenGL / GLES and even Nvidia CUDA, plus it works with x86 as well as ARM-absed CPUs. ..."

i assume this is indeed good news for gamers, considering the gpu and crypto development of the last 5 years. is anyone seeing a downside on this situation?

The more chips the better i would think at this point.

It might come down that they push crypto that doesn't work/scale well with GPU's thus making them less preferable and more 'average' hardware would be used.

bump do you mean that desktop cpu's will be used for mining in that scenario?

More likely it would be more distributed, older hardware, Raspberry Pi's and other machines would be more suited than desktop machines.

Though honestly with as many cores are coming out that some don't know how to use them all, having 2-6 cores running in the background working on crypto while the other 6+ are used for games or whatever would work too...

thanks now i get it. i guess its possible to mine with low end hardware like a rasp pi or a playstation. in fact, there was an article about an underground mining farm made of ps4's a year ago (i think). but i assume that mining on weak hardware like a rasp pie is just not profitable.

"chinese gpu manufacturer will soon launch gpus" well thats probably the most sensible and realistic thing ive heard you say in... ~8 years?!

Wouldn't it?

Consider if they pushed and a good cryptocurrency came out that was used and GPU's couldn't do well, and most CPU's are 2.4Ghz (maybe 3.2Ghz) then it comes down to how many cores you have, and at which point nearly every system is game (even have it run on your phone, preferably when you're charging and won't tax your battery). Not only that, but depends on how many cores you could get per system. A $1,000 computer that gives you say 16-32 cores, while getting $50 pi's with 2 cores each and only needing 5V each...

Like anything else it's a balancing act.

Will the US sales rep be crackhead bagson Hunter B, with the usual 10% for "The Big Guy"? ((;--))