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Man i seriously hope they stay independent and don’t get bought. If they don’t overpromise things in the future theri stock will be healthy again
I check that "news" and are completely BS, the stocks of CD Projekt triplicated before the launch of Cyberpunk 2077 and then just started to drop, now is more or less the same that it was before the launch. I know that this is not good either, but also Europe is pretty fucked up right now, specially Poland, but that news is pure sensansionalism, CD Projekt still worth 10 billions and that's a lot for a company in EU, for example Ublisofft is currently arround 5B, yet there are not the 40B CDP worth it before Cyberpunk 2077 launch. It was their rise and fall, but they are still OK.
Nobody cares.
News sources (and GOG forumers) have been screaming that the sky is falling on CDPR for a few years now. It's pretty silly. I agree, I hope they remain independent; if Microsoft buys them (as some have rumored), I'm gonna flip, as CD Projekt is the last major games company that I love who hasn't been bought and ruined by that gutter trash company.

I'm not concerned, really, because CDP has resisted such buyout offers in the past and this sort of thing happens from time to time. They still made bank off of Cyberpunk even after refunds and while GOG has had a few difficulties in the past year, they've made it clear they're working on it.

So yeah, it may not be a perfect situation but I'm not terribly worried. I try my best to ignore 'news' like this as people have been looking for every excuse to throw the hate and doom toward CDP since Cyberpunk dropped, which is just pathetic. I mean yeah, I get it, the game had major bugs on release but it's not the first time that has happened to a triple-A title and it won't be the last. Bugs aside, the game was fantastic at launch and only got better with the patches and free DLCs. The only reason people got so whiny about the game itself is because they were expecting GTA in the dark future, building these unrealistic expectations around intentional misinterpretations of marketing material. Maybe if gamers paid attention and realized that CDPR was promising an open world narrative-driven RPG with sandbox elements instead of thinking that it'd be the be-all, end-all video game that does everything, they wouldn't have been so harsh on the game.

But anyways, I digress. As Ruvika put it, Europe is an economic wreck right now and CDP is still worth a crapton of cash; they'll be fine.
Post edited July 20, 2022 by JakobFel
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Sachys: Nobody cares.
you clearly do
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JakobFel: News sources (and GOG forumers) have been screaming that the sky is falling on CDPR for a few years now. It's pretty silly. I agree, I hope they remain independent; if Microsoft buys them (as some have rumored), I'm gonna flip, as CD Projekt is the last major games company that I love who hasn't been bought and ruined by that gutter trash company.
Or EA *shudder*
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JakobFel: So yeah, it may not be a perfect situation but I'm not terribly worried. I try my best to ignore 'news' like this as people have been looking for every excuse to throw the hate and doom toward CDP since Cyberpunk dropped, which is just pathetic. I mean yeah, I get it, the game had major bugs on release but it's not the first time that has happened to a triple-A title and it won't be the last. Bugs aside, the game was fantastic at launch and only got better with the patches and free DLCs. The only reason people got so whiny about the game itself is because they were expecting GTA in the dark future, building these unrealistic expectations around intentional misinterpretations of marketing material. Maybe if gamers paid attention and realized that CDPR was promising an open world narrative-driven RPG with sandbox elements instead of thinking that it'd be the be-all, end-all video game that does everything, they wouldn't have been so harsh on the game.

But anyways, I digress. As Ruvika put it, Europe is an economic wreck right now and CDP is still worth a crapton of cash; they'll be fine.
I agree. Stock price doesnt matter to the company and only affects the C-suite executives if they get compensated in stock as part of their compensation. High priced stock doesnt mean a company is necessarily doing better (companies can issue more stock which decreases the price of each one or double share amount which halves price so they have more to sell later) and stock market valuation does not necessarily reflect how well a company is doing nowadays anyway. Bigger indicators are balance sheets, profitability, and vision and CDPR seems to be doing fine. The world economy as a whole is also going through a turbulent time so its not just a CDPR problem just because CP2077 didnt do as well as investors expected.
Good they are failing their niche's expactations; no doubt their stocks will continue to plummet.
Back in 2019 or something like that I remember CD Projekt RED had plans to release video games for sale every two years.

Not The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt or Cyberpunk 2077 type of video games, but smaller video games like Real Time Strategy (RTS) types of video games and maybe point and click types of video games.

Anyone know what happened to releasing smaller video games every two years plans?

I thought that that is also why CD Projekt RED has been purchasing these smaller video game development studios for.

Oh well. I would have loved to purchase a Real Time Strategy (RTS) video game developed by CD Projekt RED.
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Johnathanamz: Back in 2019 or something like that I remember CD Projekt RED had plans to release video games for sale every two years.

Not The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt or Cyberpunk 2077 type of video games, but smaller video games like Real Time Strategy (RTS) types of video games and maybe point and click types of video games.

Anyone know what happened to releasing smaller video games every two years plans?

I thought that that is also why CD Projekt RED has been purchasing these smaller video game development studios for.

Oh well. I would have loved to purchase a Real Time Strategy (RTS) video game developed by CD Projekt RED.
I'm thinking that's probably still their plan but it takes time to get all of that set up. They seem to still be setting up their RED 2.0 strategy so it may be a little bit. All I know is that if they pull off that strategy, it'd be amazing; a new game in each franchise every ~4 years or so, with a spinoff in different genres every 2? It'd be fantastic.
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ChristophWr: Man i seriously hope they stay independent and don’t get bought. If they don’t overpromise things in the future theri stock will be healthy again
Are you being serious? Ever since entering the stock market, they have half-stopped to be independent and enforce big changes, like revoking own policies of old and startling old fans with various newfound "experiments".

The fall is the outcome of a long course of bad decisions. Cyberjunk fiasco played a good part towards that direction, as well as refusing to bring certain games that users demanded, while other services sold them pretty well. Also, lack of transparency and trolling potential buyers, together with bringing incomplete game packages as of late and many games with censorship added in, generally don't bode well with people shopping here, who vote with their wallet and seek certain quality characteristics, that used to distinguish this one shop right here from all others in the market. Even the central pillar of the community, the DRM-Free at all costs (drm free Revolution + FUK DRM), is no longer set in stone deep in solid ground, as it once had been...

Fidelity of a business partner must never be shaken, jeopardized or even worse, lost.
Post edited July 20, 2022 by Steamisbetter
Here's a chart for the past 5 years of the share price in zlotys. This past month it's bounced between 90 and 100.
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The entire market's been dropping, Netflix was at $500 a share in December 2020 and now it's $200, Take-Two Interactive was at $180 and now it's $130, and Zoom Video dropped from $410 to $108. Just about every stock is way down from their highs earlier last year including Tesla, Amazon, Microsoft, and Apple. And those valuations, including CD Projekt's had little to do with the company's actual fundamentals. I dare say unless something significant changes, CD Projekt (and many other companies) will drop as they are still valued too high given what's been going on in the world, and what's yet to happen when reality catches up.
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Johnathanamz: Back in 2019 or something like that I remember CD Projekt RED had plans to release video games for sale every two years.

Not The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt or Cyberpunk 2077 type of video games, but smaller video games like Real Time Strategy (RTS) types of video games and maybe point and click types of video games.

Anyone know what happened to releasing smaller video games every two years plans?

I thought that that is also why CD Projekt RED has been purchasing these smaller video game development studios for.

Oh well. I would have loved to purchase a Real Time Strategy (RTS) video game developed by CD Projekt RED.
They released Thronebreaker in 2018, Cyberpunk 2077 came out in 2020, and now Gwent: Rogue Mage came out recently. There was also that Witcher augmented reality mobile game. So, they have been releasing something approx. every 2 years.
I don't pay the stock market much heed. A lot that is happening there isn't tied much to reality anyway. Just the usual investor shenanigans.
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JakobFel: They seem to still be setting up their RED 2.0 strategy so it may be a little bit.
Yeah, no, that ain't happening anymore. CDPR already said they're switching to the Unreal Engine. They likely ran into too many headaches with their own dev software. *shrug*

It'll be interesting to see if anything new will bolted onto CP2077 like an expansion with hopefully another overhaul like they've done for their past games. Until then I'm just not interested enough in buying.
Post edited July 20, 2022 by P-E-S
The stock market today really doesn't say anything about a company, what with the tsar busily growing his Hitler beard. For Polish companies especially, whether they live or die has jack ship to do with stock market or company policy at the time, it has to do with whether the P-dog can be put to a funking leash.

I would have bought CDPR stock this year to diversify my portfolio, if it weren't for this horrible situation. Because let's be honest, AAA game companies don't lose customers in the long run just by botching every single release. They don't. Gamers are like that. They will curse and vow to never again, but they'll only ruin the indies for the most idiotic of reasons while buying that next cookie-clutter microtransactionized games-as-a-service Steam-only multiplayer 80 dollar bug massacre without thinking twice.

So, yeah, it's quite possible that you buy now at the new low, Vladi accidentally gets fallen down a staircase several times, CDPR shows off The Witcher 4 footage and bam, you're rich.

Or VVP remains in power and your money is going bye bye.
Post edited July 20, 2022 by Vainamoinen
So good time to buy stocks advice?