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Posted February 21, 2014
The DRM-Free Revolution Continues with Big Pre-Orders and Launch Day Releases!

Good news! GOG.com is going to bring you more fantastic launch day releases, preorders, and other exciting new content from some of our favorite developers. We've lined up 3 big titles that we will be bringing to GOG.com in the next couple of months for sale or preorder that we think will be hits with all of our gamers; and we have more equally exciting games coming up soon.

If you've been a member of the site for a long time, you may recall that when we launched sales of The Witcher 2 on GOG.com, we had to add in regional pricing. The game cost different amounts in in the US, the UK, the European Union, and Australia. We're doing something like that once again in order to bring you new titles from fantastic bigger studios. Since we don't accept currencies other than USD on GOG.com right now, we'll be charging the equivalent of the local price in USD for these titles. We wish that we could offer these games at flat prices everywhere in the world, but the decision on pricing is always in our partners' hands, and regional pricing is becoming the standard around the globe. We're doing this because we believe that there's no better way to accomplish our overall goals for DRM-Free gaming and GOG.com. We need more games, devs, and publishers on board to make DRM-Free gaming something that's standard for all of the gaming world!

That brings with it more good news, though! As mentioned, we have three games we're launching soon with regional pricing--two RPGs and a strategy game--and while we can't tell you what they are yet because breaking an NDA has more severe penalties than just getting a noogie, we're confident that you'll be as excited about these games as we are. For a limited time, we will be offering anyone who pre-orders or buys one of them a free game from a selection as a gift from GOG.com, just like we did for The Witcher 2.

If you have any questions, hit us up in the comments below and we'll be happy to answer (to the best of our ability).

EDIT: Since we've answered a lot of the common questions already here (and lest you think that we've ignored you), it may be handy for you to check out the forum thread about this and search for staff answers by clicking this link here. (hat tip to user Eli who reminded us that the feature even exists. :)
Posted February 22, 2014
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markx182: Still, it's a nice win for the Americans to be able to get access to DRM-free copies of new games on release day, for presumably the same price as DRM-full options.
When has GOG been about big releases that are so fresh you can see the birthing fluids? Never once, by the community or the staff themselves has this been suggested as a want.

And as a member of the North American Continent, I must first remind you that this is only a 'win' for those in the USA. Mexico, Canada, and the entirety of South America stand to get screwed by this. As it stands, I feel that in this case, having something to the benefit of a few countries where making five quid is easy is simply unfair. The previous policy was also unfair, but not blatantly so and was a nice policy to hold.
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Posted February 22, 2014
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vulchor: Off topic, but I can't seem to remember how to tell how many games I own on here, besides counting them. Pretty sure somewhere on this site lists the number. Or am I totally off?
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HypersomniacLive: Click on Barefoot Essentials, then Configure Barefoot Essentials.
Switch "no" to "yes" on the last entry Always display shelf/ list game count.
Ah! Thank you kind sir!
Posted February 22, 2014
Did I understood this right? GOG ist making for these three Games regional pricing?

Your arguing bringing it not too expensive for everyone is good. But I want to see that in praxis. Not that GOG starts betraying one of their pillars: games for everyone for the same price.
Posted February 22, 2014
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My advice to anyone who's going to be shortchanged by this move, anyone who's going to get burned by price increases, by policies they don't want, by perceived erosion of principles - DON'T BUY THE GAMES. I know that's hard, I know that a whole lot of people want to support GOG, want this to succeed, a lot of people who truly LOVE games, but if you're truly livid about the situation, do the best you can to resist the urge to say screw it and eat the difference because whatever title is just what you're looking for or have been waiting for. Keep your wallet in your pocket and let the numbers show your displeasure at the situation. Don't get irate now and cave later. If something so egregious is in motion, don't reinforce it by making the numbers look better. If the numbers turn to crap in light of these events, the business model will have to be reverted to its original form. GOG may be a better type of company in a number of ways, but they still want your money. That's a given. The numbers will dictate the course more than a thousand threads with a hundred thousand posts of people being upset.
Posted February 22, 2014
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sneakyraccoon: I for one agree with this from a business point of view. It seems fairly obvious, to me, that at some point GOG was going to need to support more day 1 releases if they are to stay relevant. I am willing to bet the vast majority of today's GOG users are here because of nostalgia for the games they grew up on. Games, I may mention, that were not on Steam for a day 1 release because there was no Steam at the time. Time is not on GOG's side if they are going to focus mainly on pre-Steam, 2003 if I recall correctly, releases. I have to wonder how much harder it is for GOG to get a game that was originally released on Steam and how much lower, in quantity of sales, they experience for said game if it has already been available for digital distribution for x number of years before coming to GOG. Good Old Games was able to identify a market opportunity that was not being met at the time and created something wonderful for me and my fellow "old" gamers but my kid's generation will not have the same affinity for these classics (in my case I hold all of Sierra's games close to heart) that we do. To not bite the bullet and change one of their core competencies to support new releases would mean serving an ever shrinking niche market.

Please do not misunderstand me, I think it sucks for all of those in geographies that will be impacted by this but I have to believe that GOG truly did examine all of their options and complete their due diligence in making this decision. I am sure they were fully aware at how this was going to ruffle up feathers and I am fairly sure the forum moderators knew today was not going to be their most favorite day at work. ;-)
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sivartwoa: Attempting to change their core competency isn't just that easy. They're going from a blue ocean strategy, to a red ocean strategy. Day 1 releases will put them in direct competition with gamestop, steam, etc. If you think their "niche" market for classic games is shrinking, their relative market share for new games is almost non-existent. Aaaaand, most of their day 1 releases are probably sold to people here for the classic games. If they alienate their niche market, they will have no loyal customer base from which to launch any sort of strategy (people will usually just buy new games where they are cheapest if all other things are equal).
I agree, it is not easy to change core competencies. You can see GOG evolving to this point over the last couple of years though with the name change from Good Old Games to just GOG, the introduction of indies, and the trickle of day 1 releases they have managed to get. I think those were all things avenues they took to expand the business to attempt to avoid a situation like this from happening but apparently it was not enough?

I would say that GOG is probably already feeling pressure from Steam and Co. as it seems like more and more older games are being sold by them. Perhaps I just haven't searched hard enough in the past to know that they were there but that is the impression I have been getting lately.

GOG will still be DRM free and they would be insane to ever move from that stance. That is the most defining attribute of their service and the reason people will still come here (providing that their price is competitive of course).
Posted February 22, 2014
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If this was about taxation differences, or about lowering the price for poorer countries, I might be OK with it, but I would have expected them to have said this in the announcement.

So I tend to agree with everyone else, that this is about charging higher prices in some countries.

GOG has built its reputation on its core values, this decision breaks the trust that they've spent years establishing. Do they think that people will continue to spread the word that "GOG will never have DRM!" across the internet without hesitating. and maybe thinking twice about saying it?

In one video I saw recently, GOG said that they were willing to admit to making mistakes. I think this is one time when they need to rethink.
Posted February 22, 2014
This don't affect me negatively since the price is converted to USD in the first place. But hopefully it will be restricted to only select few of newer titles, if it is a must (like Konami). To be honest I rarely buy stuff from GOG anymore since I already bought all the classics that I want, and i'm no longer interested in old games like I was 2 years ago. So I took the last couple of surveys seriously, (not because of the free games offered upon completing it). Hopefully there will be some more DRM-free, flat price AAA quality title in the future.

The way I see it after operating for nearly 6 years, sometime there is a business decision that can't be avoided. Similarly to the now infamous "Don't be Evil" motto, company change their tune, business model as they evolve and as they see fit. Of course this is a different situation, different precedent than the introduction of modern & indies back in 2012 however i'm willing to give GOG the benefit of the doubt at the moment.

Since 2008 they have a rather solid track record, never been in any major controversy like some other popular digital distributors were. This time they bank on their reputation big time, let's wait and see.
Posted February 22, 2014
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wormholewizards: Since 2008 they have a rather solid track record, never been in any major controversy like some other popular digital distributors were. This time they bank on their reputation big time, let's wait and see.
No major controversies, eh?

http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/09/22/gog-com-apologise-for-hoax-closure/
Posted February 22, 2014
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This is BS GoG. BS.

I'm in USA and it doesn't affect me.

But how much of your soul can you sell and retain it? The ONLY reason I am on GoG is because of the soul. It's not because I can find old games here, and it's not even because I can find drm free games here. It's because I feel I have a connection to this store. If you become like any other store, than I'm not going to buy on gog over steam or wherever else. I'm just going to buy based on what's cheapest.

Don't sell your soul away. This world has enough soulless corporations already.
Posted February 22, 2014
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saberwolfxm: I agree as easy as it is to emulate games these days I dont see why publishers wont sale individual roms. I don't think there is anything stopping them as far as it not being played on the original console or anything but it I just dont see any reason not to. Some of them say its because of piracy that they wouldn't make money off of it, I myself have downloaded a lot of roms and abandonware, some of which made it's way to gog. The thing is that even though I already had the game I still bought it. Why? Because as long as you make it available at a reasonable price and don't treat me like a thief (DRM), even though i may be one, I'll still buy because I dont want to hurt the developers. The reason way their pirated so muchis because their not being made available.
That's Right they should make an emulator for single use with games make it an EXE file and run that game with it! with controller / Keyboard config! and HD graphics!!
Posted February 22, 2014
Im actually quite curious about this - *if* GOG brought this in (instead of backing down), to those affected (me included), what would you tolerate as to the differential in prices for new AAA only ? (im not talking repricing old games - that hasnt been denied as a possibility in the future). For me 10/15 maybe 20% at the most. Anything above that i consider price gouging and would complain long and loud (and not buy the said game either).
Posted February 22, 2014
That's BS
If you gog don't stand up, who will?
Posted February 22, 2014
GG GOG. What happened to putting your foot down? Are you going to start letting in DRM games just to satisfy big publishers too?

Bah, I thought you guys were different.
Posted February 22, 2014
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Niggles: Im actually quite curious about this - *if* GOG brought this in (instead of backing down), to those affected (me included), what would you tolerate as to the differential in prices for new AAA only ? (im not talking repricing old games - that hasnt been denied as a possibility in the future). For me 10/15 maybe 20% at the most. Anything above that i consider price gouging and would complain long and loud (and not buy the said game either).
If the price difference becomes large enough people will likely try proxies and stuff or ask our fellow US members to gift the games.
Posted February 22, 2014
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Niggles: Im actually quite curious about this - *if* GOG brought this in (instead of backing down), to those affected (me included), what would you tolerate as to the differential in prices for new AAA only ? (im not talking repricing old games - that hasnt been denied as a possibility in the future). For me 10/15 maybe 20% at the most. Anything above that i consider price gouging and would complain long and loud (and not buy the said game either).
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Nirth: If the price difference becomes large enough people will likely try proxies and stuff or ask our fellow US members to gift the games.
Im kinda looking to see what prices people will tolerate without resorting to other methods (even if we can use those other methods)
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