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deathknight1728: I figured that Id finish my current game but I don't remember the military base being so hard. Its not the fights so much as Its just confusing on what to do, science, lockpick, doctor and first aid skills do nothing honestly. Every computer on the 2nd and 3rd doesn't work, its a wonder these mutants get anything done with such shitty techs.

I killed everything on 1st lvl, and then went to 2nd but its not that 2nd lvl is too hard so much as there is just too many mutants to fight at once. I tried stealth boys, grenades and luring tactics but it doesn't work. Then theres the 3rd lvl where you can't lower the force fields.

Im gonna give it some trys after advice and then Im gonna abort the game. The game was fun up until this part, now its just too tedious. What might have made the game better was if there was some kind of strategy guide with a map included with all the enemies. The games been out for what 15 years. I found all the guides of gamefaqs, game banshee and all others to be crap.

The reason why is because some people are claiming there are 4 lvls and some are claiming 3. The game was really fun and I enjoyed it but if it takes another 3 hours to wade through this place I might have to stop as its giving a headache.

If anyone knows of a site which has the maps included with enemies so I know how to get to lieutenant. If there aren't any maps, then I doubt Ill get through it.

tfishell: I dunno, the internet has been helping me, as well as the people on these forums. Without these resources I would have abandoned the game a LONG time ago. Some parts are just way too confusing.

deathknight1728: Honestly, this is where I give in. The game was fun up to this point. But Im not wasting another hour trying to find out where to go in that area. The game had promise but Im just not one for solving puzzles. For what its worth, I pumped science, lockpick, repair and anything else I thought would help me-but the ray gates wont open. The wiki shows what the 1st lvl computer is, but the 2nd and 3rd lvl are clueless.

tfishell: I'm curious; have you had similar experiences with other older games on GOG? In general older games are much tougher than newer ones.

IIRC, as far as the forcefields go, you use Repair or Science on them (being the round cylinder-like things next to the colored part) 3-4 times each, because often the first time will say nothing happened, but eventually the forcefield will go off for a few seconds giving you time to run through.

You should go to the 4th floor I believe, where if you go northeast and then south you will find a big mutant sentry and one of the purple-robed guards. They should either have a key, or it should be in a nearby locker. (The key will look like one of those bicycle lock guys, silver and made of metal, but not rigidity like a normal key; it's a cylinder with a few notches in it.)

deathknight1728: Yeah, I rarely ever finish an older game. I barely got through Geneforge 1 (with help of 4 admins on site). The only games I usually play are Avernum EFTP (remake), Avadon, Eschalon Book 1 and 2, Baldurs gate 1 and 2, Icewind dale 1 and 2 and Fallout 1 and 2 which would have been on that list.

The only oldschool and brutal rpg I play where I don't need any assistance is The Quest by Redshift. Its a modern game but brutally hard. I don't find it hard though.

I think old games are just not for me. They are always fun the first half or 3/4's of the way, but after that they become unbeatable.

Is there a refund policy on gog? Ive bought a few games I want to take back.

Stevedog13: I played Fallout when it first came, back when there were no guides to follow. It was frustrating at times but the game still stands as one of my all time favorites. It took me 3-4 months to finally beat the game. I think it was my 4th or 5th playthrough when I discovered that I could use repair on the force fields. I just always used dynamite on them up until that point.

This makes it hard to give really specific details on how to get through certain parts of the game. There are multiple solutions to each quest and what works for some characters won't work for others. I remember funneling super mutants down hallways where I was at one end and they at the other. I would hide behind a wall and take one step out, fire and go back to my hiding spot. It would take them a few turns to even get close and then I would run to another hiding spot. This worked better if you shot them in the legs.

For what it's worth I have never been able to finish Baldur's Gate.