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Hey I just updated my system to the new NVidia Graphics Driver and now I'm getting like 1 FPS

System is an AMD Ryzen 7 2700X nvidia 2070 RTX and 32 Gigs of Ram. Everything else is also on the latest driver. I completely reinstalled the game with no avail. Also, changing the Graphics option does not make a difference in performance, low or ultra it does not matter. Moreover, switching between full-screen and borderless does not make a difference.
I've been running the game fine until before the update.

Thx for the help
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Thagor: Hey I just updated my system to the new NVidia Graphics Driver and now I'm getting like 1 FPS

System is an AMD Ryzen 7 2700X nvidia 2070 RTX and 32 Gigs of Ram. Everything else is also on the latest driver. I completely reinstalled the game with no avail. Also, changing the Graphics option does not make a difference in performance, low or ultra it does not matter. Moreover, switching between full-screen and borderless does not make a difference.
I've been running the game fine until before the update.

Thx for the help
For me the driver actually helped. The update messed the performance up a bit. I just turn RT off or use DX11
Everything you describe sounds like the update a lot of people are having.
Post edited January 18, 2023 by smuggly
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Thagor: Hey I just updated my system to the new NVidia Graphics Driver and now I'm getting like 1 FPS

System is an AMD Ryzen 7 2700X nvidia 2070 RTX and 32 Gigs of Ram. Everything else is also on the latest driver. I completely reinstalled the game with no avail. Also, changing the Graphics option does not make a difference in performance, low or ultra it does not matter. Moreover, switching between full-screen and borderless does not make a difference.
I've been running the game fine until before the update.

Thx for the help
It's probably just Nvidia trying to push people onto newer cards, and they'll be wanting you to start from the 4080-tier and up when making your selection.

Don't worry, that's just Nvidia being Nvidia. They're like Apple.

I should mention, my system has a 3090 OC. Just thought i would mention this in case anyone thought to dismiss my comment as some AMD fanboy.
Post edited January 25, 2023 by MuhEbola
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MuhEbola: I should mention, my system has a 3090 OC. Just thought i would mention this in case anyone thought to dismiss my comment as some AMD fanboy.
Oh, and you're rolling a 3090 too (3090 FTW3 here)
You and I are just clickin' in the CP77 forums today, lol

Now, if ya just add that you're a Linux-only gamer, might be worth striking up an old curmudgeon's tech group :)
Post edited January 26, 2023 by xixas
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MuhEbola: It's probably just Nvidia trying to push people onto newer cards, and they'll be wanting you to start from the 4080-tier and up when making your selection.

Don't worry, that's just Nvidia being Nvidia. They're like Apple.
Which is exactly why I treat GPU-drivers like BIOS-updates - I don't update it unless I have a specific issue.

For all their price fixing and other scummy movies, at least Nvidia allows users to have different CPUs (not GPUs). Apple just forces people to exclusively use devices and software within their own eco system.

I will this for Apple: they make, or at least made, great monitors.

EDIT:
GPU / CPU typo.
Post edited January 27, 2023 by PaladinNO
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MuhEbola: I should mention, my system has a 3090 OC. Just thought i would mention this in case anyone thought to dismiss my comment as some AMD fanboy.
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xixas: Oh, and you're rolling a 3090 too (3090 FTW3 here)
You and I are just clickin' in the CP77 forums today, lol

Now, if ya just add that you're a Linux-only gamer, might be worth striking up an old curmudgeon's tech group :)
I was rolling a Titan Xp Galactic Empire GPU, two of them in fact! Then i decided to try some of the new stuff and grabbed 6800XT at the time (though wanted the 6900XT) simply because it wasn't as much of a rip off.

I still attempted to grab a 6900XT when prices had calmed down a lot, but these were even more rare than Jensen's thoughts of goodwill for his loyal fans. So then i stumped up for two ASUS TUF 3090s, and then realized the errors of my ways.... Sli is very very.... VERY, veryveryvery dead. So i have a spare that will be tinkered with someday, or maybe swap out the two Titan RTX cards in my workstation if the benchmarks are close enough to warrant that.

As to Linux, well i tried Ubuntu on occasion, and just didn't catch onto it for some reason. I did genuinely try, and not just one of those tries where you realize gaming isn't much of a thing and then quickly uninstall it. I tried it as a daily use machine, for browing, youtube vids to help me sleep, watching my movies and TV shows, and this lasted for about six or 7 months, then i just couldn't be bothered having to turn that off so i could switch on my gaming machine. So back to windows i went.

Linux Mint, being a Windows lookalike, seems well worth trying, but i never got around to installing it, because i fear it'll be the same as Ubuntu, one system for gaming, and the other for daily use, and i just can't be bothered fiddling around with an unfamiliar system trying to get a game working like i did when i tried out Ubuntu.

I honestly feel that the folks behind Linux/Ubuntu, just don't like us WinOS types LOL
They don't want us sort of deviants round their pubs.
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MuhEbola: It's probably just Nvidia trying to push people onto newer cards, and they'll be wanting you to start from the 4080-tier and up when making your selection.

Don't worry, that's just Nvidia being Nvidia. They're like Apple.
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PaladinNO: Which is exactly why I treat GPU-drivers like BIOS-updates - I don't update it unless I have a specific issue.

For all their price fixing and other scummy movies, at least Nvidia allows users to have different GPUs. Apple just forces people to exclusively use devices and software within their own eco system.

I will this for Apple: they make, or at least made, great monitors.
+1 for the Not installing "new" drivers/BIOS if nothing is broken or you don'#t have a specific need for it.

For those on older cards, a driver update is never going to unlock more performance than the card is physically capable of. Carefully read the update notes, to see if anything will benefit you, then leave it alone for a few weeks, to see if anyone has any problems, and if there are no problems reported, then by all means, download and install it.

If you have an old Intel CPU though, you could pay to win and unlock some "extra" cores on the CPU you already bought LOL
(Anyone else remember that dirty low down scam?)

Like having Day One DLC paywalled on the disc you already bought, but only you couldn't download this DLC, and they weren't downloadable either.
Post edited January 27, 2023 by MuhEbola
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Thagor: Hey I just updated my system to the new NVidia Graphics Driver and now I'm getting like 1 FPS

System is an AMD Ryzen 7 2700X nvidia 2070 RTX and 32 Gigs of Ram. Everything else is also on the latest driver. I completely reinstalled the game with no avail. Also, changing the Graphics option does not make a difference in performance, low or ultra it does not matter. Moreover, switching between full-screen and borderless does not make a difference.
I've been running the game fine until before the update.

Thx for the help
Try updating to 528.24 the two updates before that caused lagging for me on my ROG STRIX RTX3090 OC24G. I was stuck at 516.59 until 528.24 was released.
Post edited January 31, 2023 by tkosh
Ive played a few days, works great.
Getting great FPS myself on a 2070 Super, with Ultra details and 3840x1600 res, but with DLSS Auto enabled. Looks great to me and very responsive.

Note I am running on Linux though so not really apples to apples comparison.. Manjaro with NVidia 530 driver.
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xman1: Getting great FPS myself on a 2070 Super, with Ultra details and 3840x1600 res, but with DLSS Auto enabled. Looks great to me and very responsive.

Note I am running on Linux though so not really apples to apples comparison.. Manjaro with NVidia 530 driver.
What do you consider "Great FPS"?
Need numbers, man ;)

I'm holding a stable 60fps (intentionally capped) on triple-head (7680x1440) on the same Linux setup (Manjaro, 6.2.9 kernel, Nvidia 530 driver) with a 3090 FTW3. The GPU's floating just under 70 C and I'm more than happy with it.

I didn't notice any performance drop with 528 -- though again, I'm intentionally capping at 60 to maintain a jitter-free experience -- but I have noticed less high-fan time on the radiator with 530.
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xman1: Getting great FPS myself on a 2070 Super, with Ultra details and 3840x1600 res, but with DLSS Auto enabled. Looks great to me and very responsive.

Note I am running on Linux though so not really apples to apples comparison.. Manjaro with NVidia 530 driver.
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xixas: What do you consider "Great FPS"?
Need numbers, man ;)

I'm holding a stable 60fps (intentionally capped) on triple-head (7680x1440) on the same Linux setup (Manjaro, 6.2.9 kernel, Nvidia 530 driver) with a 3090 FTW3. The GPU's floating just under 70 C and I'm more than happy with it.

I didn't notice any performance drop with 528 -- though again, I'm intentionally capping at 60 to maintain a jitter-free experience -- but I have noticed less high-fan time on the radiator with 530.
I never look until it starts to feel sluggish, but probably around 50 - 60 FPS I would assume. DLSS auto keeps your frames high so hard to say. You have much higher spec'd equipment so hard to compare with that. I had a more power friendly budget in mind when I built my rig. Originally it had a 65 watt 3700X proc, but I upgraded to a 5800X3D so that kind of messed up my original low power plan.

Will be looking at a new vid card in the next month or two as it is time. 4070 or a 7700XT are on the RADAR. Looking for a 200 watt power budget so I don't create a noisy space heater is the idea. With what I got, my office is a couple degrees above the rest of the house already.

3090 however is sounding like it can drive multiple screens. That would be pretty cool. I have a couple 1080p monitors on the side of my single 38" but I wouldn't think of stretching it to all screens. I don't have the HP.
Post edited April 11, 2023 by xman1
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xman1: Will be looking at a new vid card in the next month or two as it is time. 4070 or a 7700XT are on the RADAR. Looking for a 200 watt power budget so I don't create a noisy space heater is the idea. With what I got, my office is a couple degrees above the rest of the house already.
Woah, 200 Watts TOTAL!?

Damn, my rig is about idling around 170 Watts (according to my UPS). 10900K, overclocked and undervolted, + RTX 3080. If I run benchmarks on both at the same time, system pulls ~615 Watts. ~90°C on the CPU and 80°C on the GPU, all air-cooled.

My philosophy is "performance when I need it; silence when I don't", and a powerful system doesn't need to be loud if you use the right fans and set a decent fan curve. I'd recommend Corsair ML120 / ML140 Pro fans. 37 dB, but set a proper curve and they won't be noisy unless they have to.

If you just want quiet, go with Noctua NF-A14 PWM. I got 4 of those in my home server, located just behind the living room TV; and it's barely audible. The Fractal Silent R3 or the X2 GP-14 fans, which I tried first because cheaper, were loud compared to the Noctuas.

As for the CPU, if you do CPU-intensive work, even occasionally, do NOT underspec it. Seriously, I did that mistake a couple years ago with the 9700K. I maxed that thing out on a daily basis, which blew my predictions out of the water. Hence buying the 10900K, which apparently was what I wanted, and should have bought when I first did a new build.

You want to save power, undervolt the CPU. Intel XTU wanted to pull 1.355 Volt when I tried setting it to 5.00 GHz all-core. Through testing, I got that down to a stable 1.235 Volts. Which gave a 12°C drop in peak temperatures during stresstests.

You could even do a downclocked profile to use as standard, and having an OC or default (or both) preset when doing any work or gaming, if you want to save power. Which I don't, as it's -12°C for most of the year here (peak at -40°C), so I both need and want a space-heater...
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xman1: Will be looking at a new vid card in the next month or two as it is time. 4070 or a 7700XT are on the RADAR. Looking for a 200 watt power budget so I don't create a noisy space heater is the idea. With what I got, my office is a couple degrees above the rest of the house already.
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PaladinNO: Woah, 200 Watts TOTAL!?

Damn, my rig is about idling around 170 Watts (according to my UPS). 10900K, overclocked and undervolted, + RTX 3080. If I run benchmarks on both at the same time, system pulls ~615 Watts. ~90°C on the CPU and 80°C on the GPU, all air-cooled.

My philosophy is "performance when I need it; silence when I don't", and a powerful system doesn't need to be loud if you use the right fans and set a decent fan curve. I'd recommend Corsair ML120 / ML140 Pro fans. 37 dB, but set a proper curve and they won't be noisy unless they have to.

If you just want quiet, go with Noctua NF-A14 PWM. I got 4 of those in my home server, located just behind the living room TV; and it's barely audible. The Fractal Silent R3 or the X2 GP-14 fans, which I tried first because cheaper, were loud compared to the Noctuas.

As for the CPU, if you do CPU-intensive work, even occasionally, do NOT underspec it. Seriously, I did that mistake a couple years ago with the 9700K. I maxed that thing out on a daily basis, which blew my predictions out of the water. Hence buying the 10900K, which apparently was what I wanted, and should have bought when I first did a new build.

You want to save power, undervolt the CPU. Intel XTU wanted to pull 1.355 Volt when I tried setting it to 5.00 GHz all-core. Through testing, I got that down to a stable 1.235 Volts. Which gave a 12°C drop in peak temperatures during stresstests.

You could even do a downclocked profile to use as standard, and having an OC or default (or both) preset when doing any work or gaming, if you want to save power. Which I don't, as it's -12°C for most of the year here (peak at -40°C), so I both need and want a space-heater...
200 Watts for the vid card and yes I have the killer (I call it that is it likes to draw blood in that tight space) Noctua D15. I can still hear it when it ramps though and I never used to hear it with the old proc. Thing is so big, I have to pull a fan off and then get a screwdriver to push on the video card release just to get the video card out.

Not much you can do with power on the 5800X3D. On the other AMD procs you can, but this one is sensitive to power.

Edit: Forgot to mention. I idle around 100 to 120 watts now. I'll check the actual in a few but I am running an app right now so I can't see.

Edit 2: App finished. Idle is 108 watts.
Post edited April 11, 2023 by xman1
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xman1: 200 Watts for the vid card and yes I have the killer (I call it that is it likes to draw blood in that tight space) Noctua D15. I can still hear it when it ramps though and I never used to hear it with the old proc. Thing is so big, I have to pull a fan off and then get a screwdriver to push on the video card release just to get the video card out.

Edit 2: App finished. Idle is 108 watts.
Hey, if you don't bleed at some point when building a PC, you're doing something wrong. :)

And I know what you mean. I got a Be Quiet Dark Rock 4 together with a Gigabyte RTX 3080 Aorus Xtreme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBxtLTAGkZM

...and I can barely even fit a screwdriver between them to release the GPU. Be Quiet Silent Base 802 PC case.

And daymn! 108 Watts total at idle!? That's really good! I set up an office PC a few years ago (9600K) which pulls around 75 Watts, and that machine doesn't even have a GPU in it.

If you got a D15 (beastly cooler btw, I had an earlier U12A version for a time), and you still find it loud, tweak the fan curve in the BIOS. At those power levels, I guess your temps are quite low, so there is no reason for the fans to run that fast.

Try setting the fans - all of them - to run at 50 % at 50°C, 75 % at 65°C and 100 % at 70°C and see if that makes a difference. Those are my preferred settings - quiet at idle, but "loud" under load.

And yeah, I know some of the AMD chips are very sensitive to Voltage. I've been an Intel guy since 2007, so no personal experience with AMD for the last 15 years. but I've read about it. If the Voltage isn't set "just so" (i.e. default), it's not stable at all, sadly.
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PaladinNO: And yeah, I know some of the AMD chips are very sensitive to Voltage. I've been an Intel guy since 2007, so no personal experience with AMD for the last 15 years. but I've read about it. If the Voltage isn't set "just so" (i.e. default), it's not stable at all, sadly.
It is the 3D V-Cache that is the problem and why it makes this CPU so fast in games. Hyper sensitive to voltages. No other AMD procs have this issue. the new 3D V-cache procs limit the 3D V-Cache to a couple cores so you can overclock or underclock the rest of the proc. On this particular one, the cache is shared across all cores from what I understand.

But it is also why my proc still ranks near the top in games and it is doing that on a 105 watt TDP:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html

Edit: I count 6 non-overclocked processors that are faster at this time in games.

Edit 2: When I say I can hear my fans, they are not loud at all. You can barely hear the fans when ramped. On the old proc, they never really ramped like that, but it was a 65 watt proc. The way the fan curves are now seem to work great with about 60C in gaming. Thanks for the tip though.
Post edited April 13, 2023 by xman1