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welttraumhaendler: 2.6 has already left the beta according to Egosoft. Where's the update on GOG?
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Blackbow70: mine came to me automatically this AM. but it hasn't made a fucking bit of difference. now instead of a Xenon station in Scale Plate Green VII that I can't destroy, there's a Xenon Wharf near all the stuff I made in Scale Plate Green VII that I can't destroy.

Am I going to have to start a fresh game? 'cause see that would piss me off. If I have to start a fresh game for an update to work, that just tells me the game wasn't released in working condition to begin with.
I'll second Themken's remark.

You will probably want to start a new save. The goods news is that, with all you've learned about the game, as long as you're willing to pay the iron price for your ships, then you can get back up and running again quickly. That said, transferring marines one at a time over and over again is incredibly frustrating, so waiting for 3.0 and mass crew transfer might not be a bad idea.

But in case anyone wants some ideas for how to jumpstart a new save:

* get yourself a 4star pilot and put them on a medium Teladi miner. Set it to mine Nvidium only, and to automine with an anchor space where the range 4 is within all 4 trading stations that buy Nvidium. It'll mint you about a million credits an hour indefinitely. FYI, the demand won't regenerate fast enough to keep up with the supply that more than one miner would provide.

* bail a Minotaur Raider. Load it up with bolt weapons. Put 12-15 marines on it.

* buy a Callisto Vanguard at the ALI wharf. Minimum preset, switch to PAR Travel Engine Mk1. This should set you back ~115k credits. You can sell it for ~75k credits. So for 40k credits, you can buy 2-4star pilots that you can dock at your acquisitions.

* go to Nopelios VI or Pontifex's Claim and wait for a Selene/Helios Vanguard with at least Mk2 thrusters. (Mk3 is ideal, but rare on freighters.) Scan it. Make sure that your marines have a chance. If not, either keep hunting or, if you actually find a Mk3, pew pew it until enough crew bails. Capture it.

* reequip it as you see fit, and the put drag and rotation thrust mods on it. (Rotation thrust only for your in-sector assault ship. Use forward thrust mods for autotraders.) Load it up with marines.

* use the Zap Brannigan approach of sending wave after wave of your (newly recruited) men to capture new freighters. Until 3.0 comes out with mass transfers, it's too annoying to move troops around, so just use 30ish rookies each time.

You can find miners in Nope II, and obviously once you have your Assault Ship, you can easily claim SCA Plunderers. Just continue to engage in wanton piracy of capital ships until your new empire is on its feet. As long as you don't destroy anymore modules than you absolute need to (turrets), your traders will be able to repair the rep damage.

PS: I see all the discussions on Steam about whether Medium Freighers or Large Freighters provide better ROI. Well, as long as you pay the iron price, the answer is clearly Large Freighters, since they only cost you ~150k worth of marines.
Post edited October 19, 2019 by basileus
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Blackbow70: mine came to me automatically this AM. but it hasn't made a fucking bit of difference. now instead of a Xenon station in Scale Plate Green VII that I can't destroy, there's a Xenon Wharf near all the stuff I made in Scale Plate Green VII that I can't destroy.

Am I going to have to start a fresh game? 'cause see that would piss me off. If I have to start a fresh game for an update to work, that just tells me the game wasn't released in working condition to begin with.
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basileus: I'll second Themken's remark.

You will probably want to start a new save. The goods news is that, with all you've learned about the game, as long as you're willing to pay the iron price for your ships, then you can get back up and running again quickly. That said, transferring marines one at a time over and over again is incredibly frustrating, so waiting for 3.0 and mass crew transfer might not be a bad idea.

But in case anyone wants some ideas for how to jumpstart a new save:

* get yourself a 4star pilot and put them on a medium Teladi miner. Set it to mine Nvidium only, and to automine with an anchor space where the range 4 is within all 4 trading stations that buy Nvidium. It'll mint you about a million credits an hour indefinitely. FYI, the demand won't regenerate fast enough to keep up with the supply that more than one miner would provide.

* bail a Minotaur Raider. Load it up with bolt weapons. Put 12-15 marines on it.

* buy a Callisto Vanguard at the ALI wharf. Minimum preset, switch to PAR Travel Engine Mk1. This should set you back ~115k credits. You can sell it for ~75k credits. So for 40k credits, you can buy 2-4star pilots that you can dock at your acquisitions.

* go to Nopelios VI or Pontifex's Claim and wait for a Selene/Helios Vanguard with at least Mk2 thrusters. (Mk3 is ideal, but rare on freighters.) Scan it. Make sure that your marines have a chance. If not, either keep hunting or, if you actually find a Mk3, pew pew it until enough crew bails. Capture it.

* reequip it as you see fit, and the put drag and rotation thrust mods on it. (Rotation thrust only for your in-sector assault ship. Use forward thrust mods for autotraders.) Load it up with marines.

* use the Zap Brannigan approach of sending wave after wave of your (newly recruited) men to capture new freighters. Until 3.0 comes out with mass transfers, it's too annoying to move troops around, so just use 30ish rookies each time.

You can find miners in Nope II, and obviously once you have your Assault Ship, you can easily claim SCA Plunderers. Just continue to engage in wanton piracy of capital ships until your new empire is on its feet. As long as you don't destroy anymore modules than you absolute need to (turrets), your traders will be able to repair the rep damage.

PS: I see all the discussions on Steam about whether Medium Freighers or Large Freighters provide better ROI. Well, as long as you pay the iron price, the answer is clearly Large Freighters, since they only cost you ~150k worth of marines.
i like the things you say but the one critical thing you're leaving out is "miracle occurs" where you "get yourself a 4 star pilot". Are they easier to find in 2.6? you can't just snitch them off the teladi ships any more.
It could be purely RNG, but I have found that the first few pilots I recruit tend to be pretty good and then it quickly tapers off to mostly 2 2/3rd star pilots.

If you buy the Callistos for 115k, you can sell them for 75k, which means it costs you only 40k to recruit a new, skilled pilot. I find that about 1/4th of them are 3+ stars and maybe 1/8th are 4star. A three star pilot would be good enough to get started with the Nividium mining. I think if you anchor it in Blackhole Sun IV it should cover all the bases with a range of 3.

The 2 star pilots are fine for station traders and combat ships.
According to Egosoft's own changelog, the game is now at version 2.6HF2.

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=402960&sid=bbc3e59625ad33d08fe0dcabacc19991

Is it up to date here too?

EDIT: It is at least now.
Post edited December 05, 2019 by Themken