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Posted October 18, 2021
In order to move my party along, instead of holding down the left mouse button to do so, while you turn the arrow with the mouse to walk, I have to hold down the right mouse button to move them. How do I fix this?
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Posted October 18, 2021
Are you playing exult? If not press "H" to change the mouse hand. That should do the trick IIRC
Posted October 18, 2021
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Sir.John: Are you playing exult? If not press "H" to change the mouse hand. That should do the trick IIRC
Nope, playing Gog's U7 TBG/FoV. I'll try it when I get home from work. Thanks!
Posted October 19, 2021
if you're not interested in playing in Exult, my patches for Ultima VII added the 'h' key mouse-hand toggle to U7BG:

https://github.com/JohnGlassmyer/UltimaHacks
Posted October 19, 2021
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pocococo: if you're not interested in playing in Exult, my patches for Ultima VII added the 'h' key mouse-hand toggle to U7BG:

https://github.com/JohnGlassmyer/UltimaHacks
So Exult U7 is the original, TBG, but with modern updates? And your patches are for the Exult one?

Also, on Gog U7, how do I also left-click to open a party-member's picture and all they're carrying and all that, check out checkmarks to close things, and all that kind of stuff?
Posted October 19, 2021
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Rodimus_2316: So Exult U7 is the original, TBG, but with modern updates? And your patches are for the Exult one?

Also, on Gog U7, how do I also left-click to open a party-member's picture and all they're carrying and all that, check out checkmarks to close things, and all that kind of stuff?
so many questions!

Exult is a fan-made recreation of the engine (the interface, game rules, etc) to run on modern operating systems. some people complain that some aspects of gameplay in Exult don't match the original well enough.

my patches apply to the original form of U7 (which runs on MS-DOS or in DOSBox), not to Exult.

in GOG (original) U7, you open party member inventories either by pressing the 'i' key repeatedly or by double-clicking on a party member either in combat mode or when some inventory window is already open.

my patches add the ability to press the party member's number ('1' through '8') to open their inventory directly.. among other keyboard shortcuts (you can see the full list on the Github site).

my patches also add the ability to close inventory windows by right-clicking on them.
Post edited October 19, 2021 by pocococo
Posted October 23, 2021
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Rodimus_2316: So Exult U7 is the original, TBG, but with modern updates? And your patches are for the Exult one?

Also, on Gog U7, how do I also left-click to open a party-member's picture and all they're carrying and all that, check out checkmarks to close things, and all that kind of stuff?
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pocococo: In GOG (original) U7, you open party member inventories either by pressing the 'i' key repeatedly or by double-clicking on a party member either in combat mode or when some inventory window is already open.
I meant to left mouse-button double-click to open party-member images, with the armor and backpack and all shown, and the same to left mouse-button double-click on the backpack to open it and grab and move the items inside, and the checkmark to close any of it, move items around yourself and all that. The pressing "H" thing worked to move the party in a certain direction while pressing the left mouse button instead of the right, just need help it doing that for the other stuff.

Thanks.
Post edited October 23, 2021 by Rodimus_2316
Posted October 24, 2021
What I mean is I just need to know how to do the other stuff also using the left-mouse-button, instead of just the one left click hold-down for walking; like double-left-clicking on a party member to see their actual image and stuff they're carrying, opening backpacks and chests and talking to others and whatnot, check-mark-single-left-pressing things that I'm done with to close them, and hold-down-left-button on item and use mouse to move it around, and anything else like that.

Thanks.
Posted October 25, 2021
i'm confused. the 'h' key should switch it for everything.
Posted October 25, 2021
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pocococo: i'm confused. the 'h' key should switch it for everything.
I think I was confused. Pressing "H" made me able to walk using the left-mouse button, but then I had to use the right one to do the other stuff. When I pressed "H" back, I walk with right-mouse button, but use the left one for other stuff. It's only these two options, I take it? If so, understand I haven't played this game in almost 30 years, so I must forgotten you can't do it all on one mouse button, as I guess the game needs to know when to move and when to examine, move, take things, etc.
Posted October 25, 2021
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Rodimus_2316: I think I was confused. Pressing "H" made me able to walk using the left-mouse button, but then I had to use the right one to do the other stuff. When I pressed "H" back, I walk with right-mouse button, but use the left one for other stuff. It's only these two options, I take it? If so, understand I haven't played this game in almost 30 years, so I must forgotten you can't do it all on one mouse button, as I guess the game needs to know when to move and when to examine, move, take things, etc.
I'm unfamiliar with the mod, but I know that, traditionally, for Ultima VII, you use the right mouse button to move and the left button to interact with things.

Specifically, if you place the mouse over a location, if you click the right mouse-button once, your character will take a single step towards that location. If you click the left mouse-button once, you will look at that item and the description of the item will pop up.

If you click and hold the right mouse-button, you will continuously walk in the direction of the arrow until you hit a barrier. If you click and hold the left mouse-button, you can move an item from one location to another.

There's also double-clicking the left mouse-button to use an item. Double-clicking the right mouse button doesn't really do anything.

So...I don't see how you can map all actions to just one mouse button without some more significant coding. I think you can just switch them, or you might be able to macro the left or right mouse-button to a keyboard key.
Post edited October 25, 2021 by bliznik
Posted October 26, 2021
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bliznik: Double-clicking the right mouse button doesn't really do anything.
It should automatically move the Avatar to the spot where you double-clicked, provided there's a path.
Posted October 26, 2021
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bliznik: Double-clicking the right mouse button doesn't really do anything.
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Gotcha: It should automatically move the Avatar to the spot where you double-clicked, provided there's a path.
Oh my word, it does!

29 years later, I'm still learning things about this game.
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