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Posted May 17, 2015
They say its not a downgrade and even took steps to remove pre-retail versions on youtube when compared to PS4..
and they continue to stand by this..

PC community has always rallied behind CDP.. and i will continue to put faith in them until retail version is released and i can compare myself..

but if on the day retail version comes out and its not as promised..

never again will gog/cdp get a dollar from me..

fingers crossed they are still the PC champions!
Posted May 17, 2015
Hi dude
I will repeat my self again : If For some miracle they make a game that look 99 % Like the 35minute Uncompressed edition , I will stick with my Purchase . i Realise the e3 vgx assets where gone like 7 months ago

if the final build is just like the Ps4 edition with a few shadows ; lighting ; hairworks and tiny better foliage . I will never buy anything for them . My argument is For graphics ? No hell no i love playing bloodborne 30fps in Ps4: I been 72 hours and chalice dungeons almost complete - I will stay away Cd projekt . They lied about Console Parity marketing ; they lied about Vgx ; Sod and then they make a contradiction few days ago . Sudenly after a few reviewer got the pc game and upload youtube videos ( Ign ; pc german magazine etc ) ; they where happy talking with journalist ; but when the video ps4 vs pc was shown. People started to realise something wrong was going on and Cr projekt red createad another contradiction ( The game will look like the 35 minutes ) .

False advertisting is inmoral and illegal in some countries .

False advertising or deceptive advertising is the use of false or misleading statements in advertising, and misrepresentation of the product at hand, which may negatively affect many stakeholders, especially consumers. As advertising has the potential to persuade people into commercial transactions that they might otherwise avoid, many governments around the world use regulations to control false, deceptive or misleading advertising. Truth refers to essentially the same concept, that customers have the right to know what they are buying, and that all necessary information should be on the label.
False advertising, in the most blatant of contexts, is illegal in most countries. However, advertisers still find ways to deceive consumers in ways that are legal, or technically illegal but unenforceable.

E3 : gameplay footage
35 minutes : Gameplay footage
Nvidia conference 2013

Either way they are create damage control . Will see in 2 days the Truth about Cd projekt red
Post edited May 17, 2015 by joacko_1990
Posted May 17, 2015
Have any sources for your claims about their lies? All I see is a bunch of hyperbole.
Posted May 17, 2015
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DuoMatrix: Have any sources for your claims about their lies? All I see is a bunch of hyperbole.
I will not waste my time with you . I spend 2 years in the official forum and I remember every single statement about cd projekt
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Post edited May 17, 2015 by joacko_1990
Posted May 17, 2015
I think people need to understand that this game ain't suppose to look like the "crysis of the year" or "metro 2033 of the year" for the best graphical design...

Graphics is hardly anything that what makes up the witcher series, it is always about a strong storyline and a strong gameplay, graphics are at least 3rd in the list and not 1st in priority. You can't really throw a hissy fit about the games graphics....

Plus this game going to have mod support, so if you want your "E3" graphics, you can make it yourself or you can take someone's else work and apply it to your game. It happen before on both previous titles and it will happen again considering that CD Projekt supports modding. So please stop throwing a hissy fit over graphics.
Posted May 17, 2015
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joacko_1990: Hi dude
I will repeat my self again : If For some miracle they make a game that look 99 % Like the 35minute Uncompressed edition im sold . I will stick with my Purchase . i Realise the e3 vgx assets where gone like 7 months ago

But if the final build is just a better Ps4 edition with a few shadows ; lighting ; hairworks and tiny better foliage . I will never buy anything for them . For graphics ? No hell no i love my bloodborne 30fps in Ps4: 72 hours and chalice dungeons almost complete - I will stay away Cd projekt for be the only one Pc developer we have ever trust since the downfall of all other companies. They lied about Console Parity marketing ; they lied about Vgx ; Sod and then they make a contradiction few days ago . Sudenly after a few reviewer got the pc game and upload youtube videos ( Ign ; pc german magazine etc ) ; they where happy talking with journalist ; but when the video ps4 vs pc was shown. People start to realise what was going on and they do another contradiction ( The game will look like the 35 minutes ) .

False advertisting is inmoral and illegal in some countries .

False advertising or deceptive advertising is the use of false or misleading statements in advertising, and misrepresentation of the product at hand, which may negatively affect many stakeholders, especially consumers. As advertising has the potential to persuade people into commercial transactions that they might otherwise avoid, many governments around the world use regulations to control false, deceptive or misleading advertising. Truth refers to essentially the same concept, that customers have the right to know what they are buying, and that all necessary information should be on the label.
False advertising, in the most blatant of contexts, is illegal in most countries. However, advertisers still find ways to deceive consumers in ways that are legal, or technically illegal but unenforceable.

E3 : gameplay footage
35 minutes : Gameplay footage
Nvidia conference 2013

Either way they are create damage control . Will see in 2 days the Truth about Cd projekt red
Please, at least learn how to properly express your thoughts. I barely understood your post. Even google translate is not that bad.
Post edited May 17, 2015 by Demoniko
Posted May 17, 2015
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joacko_1990: Hi dude
I will repeat my self again : If For some miracle they make a game that look 99 % Like the 35minute Uncompressed edition im sold . I will stick with my Purchase . i Realise the e3 vgx assets where gone like 7 months ago

But if the final build is just a better Ps4 edition with a few shadows ; lighting ; hairworks and tiny better foliage . I will never buy anything for them . For graphics ? No hell no i love my bloodborne 30fps in Ps4: 72 hours and chalice dungeons almost complete - I will stay away Cd projekt for be the only one Pc developer we have ever trust since the downfall of all other companies. They lied about Console Parity marketing ; they lied about Vgx ; Sod and then they make a contradiction few days ago . Sudenly after a few reviewer got the pc game and upload youtube videos ( Ign ; pc german magazine etc ) ; they where happy talking with journalist ; but when the video ps4 vs pc was shown. People start to realise what was going on and they do another contradiction ( The game will look like the 35 minutes ) .

False advertisting is inmoral and illegal in some countries .

False advertising or deceptive advertising is the use of false or misleading statements in advertising, and misrepresentation of the product at hand, which may negatively affect many stakeholders, especially consumers. As advertising has the potential to persuade people into commercial transactions that they might otherwise avoid, many governments around the world use regulations to control false, deceptive or misleading advertising. Truth refers to essentially the same concept, that customers have the right to know what they are buying, and that all necessary information should be on the label.
False advertising, in the most blatant of contexts, is illegal in most countries. However, advertisers still find ways to deceive consumers in ways that are legal, or technically illegal but unenforceable.

E3 : gameplay footage
35 minutes : Gameplay footage
Nvidia conference 2013

Either way they are create damage control . Will see in 2 days the Truth about Cd projekt red
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Demoniko: Please, at least learn how to properly express your thoughts. I barely understood your post. Even google translate is not that bad.
Is funny how people just said the old engine will never be able to play on high end 2015 pc . Of course they never saw a video of valley engine ; heaven benchmark ; 3dmark fire extreme- Pc hardware is now 10 Times stronger than consoles .

How can crysis 3 use 1.5gb vram ? that is becouse was created by pc with Pc professional gamers ..

Just becouse ultra now run at 60fps with one 980 doesnt mean it looks blowmind or is a step foward ... Is obious you can achive those settings with the downgrade grass texture ; draw distance scale ; Non tessellation etc .

That is why you have options on pc . Why denied to play this game at 30fps with all mind blowing effects showed in Vgx

How many languages you speak ? I speak 3 . Try to talk me in spanish then Smart guy
Post edited May 17, 2015 by joacko_1990
Posted May 17, 2015
I also speak 3. I do not know spanish. My native language is russian. I'm just pointing out that your posts are pretty hard to decipher.

It's funny how you mentioned Crysis. Do you know, that Crysis 2 was a downgrade from Crysis? They actually released quite a few patches, that improved graphics over time, but original release of Crysis 2 was WAY worse in terms of graphics than the first game. Also note, that it's hard to compare linear games with open world games. Linear games can afford to have better graphics because you can predict where player will be - this means you can compromise by making objects out of players view much less detailed and try to direct player so he won't notice. In linear games world is only detailed where you can see it. You can also easily predict where player will be going to go to preload assets. For open world games this is a much harder task. You need to find a good compromise between a larger distance with higher details vs. greater details at close distance, you need to have a great memory manager that will dynamically load and unload assets, preferably without player noticing it and without memory leaks. You can't just load the whole world into memory, not even the small part of it in full detail. Let's say in W2 locations were pretty small, and details are much lower than W3 - still I bet no home PC will be able to load entire act in full details.
Posted May 17, 2015
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Demoniko: I also speak 3. I do not know spanish. My native language is russian. I'm just pointing out that your posts are pretty hard to decipher.

It's funny how you mentioned Crysis. Do you know, that Crysis 2 was a downgrade from Crysis? They actually released quite a few patches, that improved graphics over time, but original release of Crysis 2 was WAY worse in terms of graphics than the first game. Also note, that it's hard to compare linear games with open world games. Linear games can afford to have better graphics because you can predict where player will be - this means you can compromise by making objects out of players view much less detailed and try to direct player so he won't notice. In linear games world is only detailed where you can see it. You can also easily predict where player will be going to go to preload assets. For open world games this is a much harder task. You need to find a good compromise between a larger distance with higher details vs. greater details at close distance, you need to have a great memory manager that will dynamically load and unload assets, preferably without player noticing it and without memory leaks. You can't just load the whole world into memory, not even the small part of it in full detail. Let's say in W2 locations were pretty small, and details are much lower than W3 - still I bet no home PC will be able to load entire act in full details.
Crytek become what it is for steeping aside on Pc gaming and Become a console company .

Now you talk about crysis . Did you ever play or see any Utra footage of Black desert ( A corean game with half of the budget than Cd projekt ) . You can see : High tessellation ground ; objects - high textures foliage - Good use of Hair effects - Dinamic Shadows etc etc. Is a full open world - Witcher 3 is divided by sectors and is True - Im not trying to destroy the game i been waiting for years . But the way they managed and lied to consumers with the huge Downgrade . It's really disappointed
Post edited May 17, 2015 by joacko_1990
Posted May 17, 2015
I do not understand your point. The game looks great. It's certainly an upgrade from W2. It's not a downgrade if it's looks better than the previous game. If it will be worse than W2 then I'll take my words back. And it's silly to compare a game with trailers of unreleased game. I remember that W2 trailers also had better graphics than the current W2 EE, but I wouldn't say it was a downgrade because it was one of the most stunningly looking game at the time.
What was downgrade is Crysis 2 - it certainly had much worse graphics than the first one, and it's a game where graphics is the most important thing. Witcher is not about graphics, I would've played & enjoyed W3 even if it had W1 level of graphics (which I still play a lot).
Posted May 17, 2015
better then witcher 2 ??

going by the PS4 videos im seeing i believe witcher 2 on PC looks better or equal in parts..


which is a huge insult seeing how witcher 3 has had years to improve..

so i will hold my CD torch until release date.. in the hope they didnt lie and will continue to be the PC champions..

pray what u have said is true when it comes to this issue
Posted May 17, 2015
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thekingcasper: better then witcher 2 ??

going by the PS4 videos im seeing i believe witcher 2 on PC looks better or equal in parts..

which is a huge insult seeing how witcher 3 has had years to improve..

so i will hold my CD torch until release date.. in the hope they didnt lie and will continue to be the PC champions..

pray what u have said is true when it comes to this issue
Which video exactly?
Also it's more than likely that PC version will have slightly better graphics overall than PS4 version even if textures and shaders are the same due to several things:
1. High end PC will have more memory available which game will be able to utilize, meaning greater view overall
2. Better options for antialiasing on PC
3. No FPS limit - smoother gameplay if your PC handles it
Post edited May 17, 2015 by Demoniko
Posted May 17, 2015
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thekingcasper: better then witcher 2 ??

going by the PS4 videos im seeing i believe witcher 2 on PC looks better or equal in parts..

which is a huge insult seeing how witcher 3 has had years to improve..

so i will hold my CD torch until release date.. in the hope they didnt lie and will continue to be the PC champions..

pray what u have said is true when it comes to this issue
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Demoniko: Which video exactly?
Also it's more than likely that PC version will have slightly better graphics overall than PS4 version even if textures and shaders are the same due to several things:
1. High end PC will have more memory available which game will be able to utilize, meaning greater view overall
2. Better options for antialiasing on PC
3. No FPS limit - smoother gameplay if your PC handles it
Your are blind or did you get paid by Cd projetk ?

The entire 35 minutes gameplay was a demo with full assets ; High end texture foliage ; Nvidia Effects ; Tessellation ; ligthing and was a few months before the game was released . The delay was due to Consoles issues ( Cd projekt state that im not lying ) Ps4 / Xbox dont have the power to run that demo in slow at 30fps . Hell ps4 has Fps drops at 26 in witcher 3 last build

How con you lied to your self : There is a downgrade That anyone can see : The grass is ugly ; they change all Textures models ; they get rip off every single Amazing effect .

And then you have trailers with Game footage ( Game footage ) Did you ever see the statements of Cd projekt red ? im not the one who make a ilusion here . They state that was in game and promise to take that on pc
They are not priest you know ? We are paying money for a product and They do false advertising . Period and im done with you . Black desert looks way better than this build of the past days . If they acomplished what they promised i will pray cd projekt . i love their past games and i have been always supporting them . Will see in a few days . See ya
Post edited May 17, 2015 by joacko_1990
Posted May 17, 2015
I'm not blind and hell no I'm not paid by CDPR. If you haven't noticed I'm bashing them for some decisions in a thread nearby. I'm just failing to see how can you call a game a downgrade when it's not even released? There is always better graphics in earlier trailers, that was always so. But I'm sure it's an upgrade over W2 and that's the only thing that matters. Also we can't even play yet everyone came to conclusion that games look like crap on PC... Based on what? I remember similar threads with W2, when they cut some effects and overall decreased graphics quality in the final game compared to first trailers - so what? I'd prefer the game that will run smoothly and won't have eye-catching visual glitches to a game that can barely run or have visual glitches that break immersion like a lot of the games with tesselation had in a recent past.
Posted May 17, 2015
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joacko_1990: Your are blind or did you get paid by Cd projetk ?

The entire 35 minutes gameplay was a demo with full assets ; High end texture foliage ; Nvidia Effects ; Tessellation ; ligthing and was a few months before the game was released . The delay was due to Consoles issues ( Cd projekt state that im not lying ) Ps4 / Xbox dont have the power to run that demo in slow at 30fps . Hell ps4 has Fps drops at 26 in witcher 3 last build

How con you lied to your self : There is a downgrade That anyone can see : The grass is ugly ; they change all Textures models ; they get rip off every single Amazing effect .

And then you have trailers with Game footage ( Game footage ) Did you ever see the statements of Cd projekt red ? im not the one who make a ilusion here . They state that was in game and promise to take that on pc
They are not priest you know ? We are paying money for a product and They do false advertising . Period and im done with you . Black desert looks way better than this build of the past days . If they acomplished what they promised i will pray cd projekt . i love their past games and i have been always supporting them . Will see in a few days . See ya
People like you who only care about graphics rather than 100 other things that CDPR delivered on should be ashamed of yourselves. This is the first time a CDPR has released a big, highly anticipated game simultaneously on three platforms while having a smaller team and budget than most AAA developers and all YOU have to show for it is b****ing and moaning about graphics like a spoiled, entitled little brat. These guys worked absolutely hard at making this game and there's a reason it's highly praised by reviewers, so show some respect. You know what, no, if you don't want to buy the game, then don't buy it, you don't deserve to play this game.

If the story is fantastic, the world looks gorgeous, the soundtrack is amazing, the gameplay is awesome, the game functions smoothly and just overall very immersive, then something as small as a graphics change isn't going to deter me from buying this game. Besides, in case you have forgotten (and I'm sure you have), they'll most likely make an enhanced edition for The Witcher 3 and will be free for those you bought it, just like they did for the previous 2 Witchers.
Post edited May 17, 2015 by DreadfulOne
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