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superge3k: The best game ever !
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jamotide: I agree at least on the best action-adventure-rpg. I pretty much did not really like any of them entirely, icluding W1&2,Gothic,Skyrim etc.. But this is pretty neat. It is almost like a real RPG, if you forget the twitch combat.

I can't believe some say W1 or W2 were better. I played through them right before part 3 and the had a neat story and atmosphere but the gameplay was TERRIBLE. Part one with its strange click every 2 seconds quicktime combat and part 2 with all the asscreed climbing and QTEs for everything. Not to mention they both had very weak RPG elements. Those were a chore to get through, without the story, I would not have played them 10 minutes.
Never said they were better, try reading what i wrote properly. I said, and i quote:

Both W1&2 were better if different ways
And i stand by thet. W1 had better combat mechanics, none of this console friendly, casual friendly bull shit. W2 had better atmosphere, controls and inventory management.

W1 is still the best of the 3 though, since CDPR didnt care so much about offending people there. They simply made it the baest way they could. Sure it wasnt user firendly, but it was the sterilised crap that 2 and 3 have ended up. Shame really, i'd love to have seen how the series matured if CDPR had kept their balls and not handed them over for consoles.

Though as ive said else where, i understand WHY they did it, even if i dont agree with them. Feels like they sold themselves out.
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superge3k: The best game ever !
I agree!
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Ryuubei: W1 had better combat mechanics, none of this console friendly, casual friendly bull shit.

W1 is still the best of the 3 though, since CDPR didnt care so much about offending people there. They simply made it the baest way they could. Sure it wasnt user firendly, but it was the sterilised crap that 2 and 3 have ended up. Shame really, i'd love to have seen how the series matured if CDPR had kept their balls and not handed them over for consoles.

Though as ive said else where, i understand WHY they did it, even if i dont agree with them. Feels like they sold themselves out.
Be honest, that's just being controversial for the sake of it.
Played a little, I imported my TW2 save. it's fun thus far, but for a few probs [not game breaking] Geralt can't walk, well he can for a few steps before breaking into a run [bit fiddly to loot corpes]. he speaks to himself too much [whilst on horseback] he calls the horse roche ^^

The minimap is showing everything, herbs. monsters, et all [anyway to turn this off, as I like to explore, and walk into an ambush]] :P

And patch 1.04 did something to the graphics, trees, faces, grass are stuttering, anyway to roll back to patch 1.03?

all the best

Good night
But Ryuubei is correct in many aspects. Witcher 1 was better game regarding many things. Geralt is a witcher, not some sutler or looter, who carries a tonnes of shit in the name of crafting. Why would witcher provide smith with ore and leather? If it's rare ore or some special components - fine, but basic ones? In this aspect, W2 and especially W3 look like Gothic series games, only with limited inventory and without ability to mine ore personally. Ability to carry various armours and swords doesn't make much sense, and heavy plate armour in W3 makes even less sense. Food goes same way - can imagine an agile fencer, whose life depends on swift moves, doing all those pirouettes, while having belly full of water, meat, bread, chicken, apples, and various other stuff? I'd understand some long-lasting effect, similar to Pillars of Eternity, but what we have now looks odd. Alchemy is also strange, instead of making potions based on various substances (aether, quebrith, rebis) now we force to gather specific ingredients. Do not have it? Well, you're screwed. Inability to make potions' supply is also quite strange and leads to rather idiotic situations: "we need to make haste!/ no sorry, need to refill my potions". Eh? Ingame economy doesn't even try to look believable, as cost of many things in exorbitant, some alcohol bottles costs as much as contract fee. Now tell me how poor peasants can drink, if they are being constantly robbed, poorer than dirt, and complain they have splinters in their arses from eating bark? Maybe because storage containers inside their homes are filled with precious alchemical and crafting components? Speaking of which - gathering herbs is one thing, going through other people belongings is totally different. Having Geralt's skills reset, again, does not makes this game anything good from narration perspective. moreover, existing skills system looks odd, when you forced to have skills, but not being able to use them, just because you don't have slots. Goofy. Also, game about "best swordsman of the North" have a way too little red mutagens. Only now, after clearing all monsters' net I was able to harvest one greater red mutagen, and I have much more of green and blue ones. Combat is no better. The whole importance of strong hit is illustrated by lack of key, reserved for this move. In Witcher Geralt did all hits, jumps, rolls, dodges, and pirouettes, according to situation and skills we gave him. Now we are responsible for moves, dodges, and jumps, but we can't jump from enemies" circle, and our attacking capabilities are pretty limited: we can hit fast, we can hit hard, we can perform and spinning attack that may not hit enemies standing at pointblank, and that's basically all. Plus we can stumble upon many things in got stuck, unable to reach enemies, or dodge their attacks. Also this game has narrative problems: a specially created mutant, who supposed to have very keen senses, that was proved in previous game, where he could hear wheezing archer, and in very this game, where he heard liar's pounding heart, cannot hear person coming from behind (OMG, such drama!:D), nor hear a running away lady, who asked to turn away to check her dress (sure, in broad daylight, in the middle of bridge, so subtle:D)). Of course, this game's writing is good, some stories are very emotional and touching, especially accompanied by right music, but some quests, while not being FedEx (more like KillEx), are "heavily influenced" by books. Some influenced so strong you have deja vu. In addition, various technical issues preclude this game from being best ever. It is good game, but not without flaws, some if which could be fixed, and some, apparently, will stay forever. Moreover, English version seems to suffer from lack of voice-over actors' variety: continent is filled by people with voices of Roche, Iorveth, Letho, and I'm pretty sure that Yen, Keira, and Triss also lend their voices to some of NPCs. It's not really "game breaking", as Oblivion was voiced by like 15 actors, and only 2 of them gave voices to unique characters, but when you compare it with GTA V (no need to go on budgets), or with list of Polish actors, that makes you think, why it was impossible to use them to give more variety to people's voices? Maybe they would have an accent, but hey, it's Slavic fantasy. Dwarves have their accent, why not give another to humans? Of course, all these things for most part are not game breaking, and could be fixed, but so far they exist, and cannot be ignored as technical issues break game's flow and make it more difficult to enjoy it without interruptions.
tl;dr Witcher 3 is good game, no question in that. But best ever? Too many flaws, even if minor ones. But to each his own, I'm happy for those for whom W3 is best game ever.
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Cavenagh: Played a little, I imported my TW2 save. it's fun thus far, but for a few probs [not game breaking] Geralt can't walk, well he can for a few steps before breaking into a run [bit fiddly to loot corpes]. he speaks to himself too much [whilst on horseback] he calls the horse roche ^^

The minimap is showing everything, herbs. monsters, et all [anyway to turn this off, as I like to explore, and walk into an ambush]] :P

And patch 1.04 did something to the graphics, trees, faces, grass are stuttering, anyway to roll back to patch 1.03?

all the best

Good night
Not sure about the patches. But you can configure the map and other HUD elements to your liking via the options menu. I have most of it turned off, especially all those hints on the map. Makes it more challenging at times, but also more rewarding when you discover things on your own. :)
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RudyLis: Woah -- wall of text.
Just throwing in my 2 cents worth: I really think it's no fair or realistic to claim that Witcher 1 is objectively better than Witcher 3. I can understand that some people enjoyed the first one more, based on their own preferences. But when you compare them objectively, there's just way too many improvements. At the most, maybe the first ( or second ) was better in some aspects, but when you look at the whole package, then Witcher 3 comes out on top, no question about it.
Post edited May 31, 2015 by CharlesGrey
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Ryuubei: Never said they were better, try reading what i wrote properly.
Never said I meant you, try reading what i wrote properly.

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Ryuubei: And i stand by thet. W1 had better combat mechanics, none of this console friendly, casual friendly bull shit.
Is that supposed to be a joke? Better combat mechanics? It was quicktime BS. Click when the curser turns orange.

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Ryuubei: W1 is still the best of the 3 though, since CDPR didnt care so much about offending people there.
Ok now you did say W1 is better lol
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Ryuubei: Never said they were better, try reading what i wrote properly.
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jamotide: Never said I meant you, try reading what i wrote properly.

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Ryuubei: And i stand by thet. W1 had better combat mechanics, none of this console friendly, casual friendly bull shit.
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jamotide: Is that supposed to be a joke? Better combat mechanics? It was quicktime BS. Click when the curser turns orange.

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Ryuubei: W1 is still the best of the 3 though, since CDPR didnt care so much about offending people there.
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jamotide: Ok now you did say W1 is better lol
Let the guy be in his universe I also know one click fan who thinks it's a holly cow and best battle system of the series. What's the point of the battle if i just have to klick and that is all seriously you just klick and Geralt do everything for you lol. It's really not the best for 3rd person view RPG its not hack and slash actually.
That is why i like system in W3 because it feels like polished battle system from W2(which had some flaws tbh). In W1 all battle was like cast AARD or Igni and click a couple of times that's all yeah really exciting.Now you have to do more things yourself and all signs are usefull i can show just many examples how the combat system in W3 better then in W1.
As for clicking system i think Robin Hood was the best.Where you had to draw how you hit your opponent.
Moreover if the W1 had something like Robin Hood system instead of clicking i would get it but
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superge3k: The best game ever !
I'll have to disagree with you as far as this being the best game ever. As I've played lots of games Skyrim being one of them that were allot better in many ways.

I like the fact that the made this open world but they've still tied our hands in the game and restricted us greatly. How did they do that by restricting the armor and weapons to only being used when you are a certain level or above. Its like why do you swing one sword differently then another or do you put on pair of trousers on different then another that you've got to be restricted to a certain level?

Heck I'm playing with a level 1 silver sword because I've found nothing else. The next diagram I've got is for a level 12 silver sword. And the rest of my gear is similar low level with diagrams for higher rated gear but have to be of a lot higher level as much as 5 levels before I can use it. My silver swoird right now is barely doing damage to wolves and dogs in the wild.

Also lack of leveling up I've done lots of quests Witcher, secondary and main as well as bandits camps and such and have 45 + hours into the game and I'm only level 7 haven't gone up or have gotten very very few xp since before 1.04 patch.

Fully matching pieces are all but non existent.

Weapons; armor; receipes are hard to find and cost a small fortune. compared to what little 20 gold or so your given for doing a quest. this includes the diagrams for armor repair kits.

Most of the merchants sell over priced useless garbage for which we've either got better or we don't need.

Lack of storage in the game. I mean I'm carrying allot of stuff that I could probably store away and access it when I need it. But it's hindering my carry weight.

To the OP: No this is a good game but I wouldn't call it "The best game ever!" That right still belongs to "Skyrim"

Now I'm going to head through all the merchants again and try to find some better equipment then this crap I'm currently using. Maybe a silver sword that will at least kill a drowner. right now all the drowners do is laugh at me as i'm laying there dead.
Post edited May 31, 2015 by redneck1st
I gave it 8 out of 10. :D

Lots room for improvement.
I can't wait to see the 'version 2 or the enhanced edition'. XD
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KKai: I gave it 8 out of 10. :D

Lots room for improvement.
I can't wait to see the 'version 2 or the enhanced edition'. XD
I won't be paying for the enhanced edition. After all I already gave them my money for the oriinal edition. They made an open world game but still tied our hands. Even when you pay a fortune for receipes for potions, oils and bombs it don't tell you what things you are missing just that your missing certain ingridents. Like thats suppost to be of any help to us?

You rated it allot higher then I did I gave it a 5 1/2 out of 10. This game so far has to many things for which needs to be corrected for me to give it anything higher right now.
Post edited May 31, 2015 by redneck1st
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superge3k: The best game ever !
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redneck1st: I'll have to disagree with you as far as this being the best game ever. As I've played lots of games Skyrim being one of them that were allot better in many ways.

I like the fact that the made this open world but they've still tied our hands in the game and restricted us greatly. How did they do that by restricting the armor and weapons to only being used when you are a certain level or above. Its like why do you swing one sword differently then another or do you put on pair of trousers on different then another that you've got to be restricted to a certain level?

Heck I'm playing with a level 1 silver sword because I've found nothing else. The next diagram I've got is for a level 12 silver sword. And the rest of my gear is similar low level with diagrams for higher rated gear but have to be of a lot higher level as much as 5 levels before I can use it. My silver swoird right now is barely doing damage to wolves and dogs in the wild.

Also lack of leveling up I've done lots of quests Witcher, secondary and main as well as bandits camps and such and have 45 + hours into the game and I'm only level 7 haven't gone up or have gotten very very few xp since before 1.04 patch.

Fully matching pieces are all but non existent.

Weapons; armor; receipes are hard to find and cost a small fortune. compared to what little 20 gold or so your given for doing a quest. this includes the diagrams for armor repair kits.

Most of the merchants sell over priced useless garbage for which we've either got better or we don't need.

Lack of storage in the game. I mean I'm carrying allot of stuff that I could probably store away and access it when I need it. But it's hindering my carry weight.

To the OP: No this is a good game but I wouldn't call it "The best game ever!" That right still belongs to "Skyrim"

Now I'm going to head through all the merchants again and try to find some better equipment then this crap I'm currently using. Maybe a silver sword that will at least kill a drowner. right now all the drowners do is laugh at me as i'm laying there dead.
Sorry mate but the 'Best game ever' title does not belong to Skyrim. Maybe in your eyes but not in general. 47 hours into the game and still being lvl 7 is pure bullshit. Did you do any main quests for an exp boost? No? So why are you complaining? You can still kill lvl 10 and 12 stuff with easy while being lvl 7.

Skyrim, my friend, was a heavily consolised mess of a release. I spent in that game almost 150 hours. It has no depth as far as fetch quests are concerend. The main story is nice but filled with characters you wont even remember after you finish the game. The main cities of Skyrim pale in comparison to Novigrad. Did I mention lack of proper inventory mechanics and console grade interface? Don't even tell me how you can mod it. We are judging the base game here. So Bethesda can release a buggy mess of a console port on PC and we praise it because there is heavy modding opportunity? Are you serious?

I am playing on Sweat and Blood and I still use the lvl 1 Viper sword. Drowners are dying my friend, they are crying not laughing. Maybe you are used to a very simplified combat mechanic of Skyrim? Tried using signs and bombs and actually positioning yourself in a fight?
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redneck1st: I'll have to disagree with you as far as this being the best game ever. As I've played lots of games Skyrim being one of them that were allot better in many ways.

I like the fact that the made this open world but they've still tied our hands in the game and restricted us greatly. How did they do that by restricting the armor and weapons to only being used when you are a certain level or above. Its like why do you swing one sword differently then another or do you put on pair of trousers on different then another that you've got to be restricted to a certain level?

Heck I'm playing with a level 1 silver sword because I've found nothing else. The next diagram I've got is for a level 12 silver sword. And the rest of my gear is similar low level with diagrams for higher rated gear but have to be of a lot higher level as much as 5 levels before I can use it. My silver swoird right now is barely doing damage to wolves and dogs in the wild.

Also lack of leveling up I've done lots of quests Witcher, secondary and main as well as bandits camps and such and have 45 + hours into the game and I'm only level 7 haven't gone up or have gotten very very few xp since before 1.04 patch.

Fully matching pieces are all but non existent.

Weapons; armor; receipes are hard to find and cost a small fortune. compared to what little 20 gold or so your given for doing a quest. this includes the diagrams for armor repair kits.

Most of the merchants sell over priced useless garbage for which we've either got better or we don't need.

Lack of storage in the game. I mean I'm carrying allot of stuff that I could probably store away and access it when I need it. But it's hindering my carry weight.

To the OP: No this is a good game but I wouldn't call it "The best game ever!" That right still belongs to "Skyrim"

Now I'm going to head through all the merchants again and try to find some better equipment then this crap I'm currently using. Maybe a silver sword that will at least kill a drowner. right now all the drowners do is laugh at me as i'm laying there dead.
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sariaen: Sorry mate but the 'Best game ever' title does not belong to Skyrim. Maybe in your eyes but not in general. 47 hours into the game and still being lvl 7 is pure bullshit. Did you do any main quests for an exp boost? No? So why are you complaining? You can still kill lvl 10 and 12 stuff with easy while being lvl 7.

Skyrim, my friend, was a heavily consolised mess of a release. I spent in that game almost 150 hours. It has no depth as far as fetch quests are concerend. The main story is nice but filled with characters you wont even remember after you finish the game. The main cities of Skyrim pale in comparison to Novigrad. Did I mention lack of proper inventory mechanics and console grade interface? Don't even tell me how you can mod it. We are judging the base game here. So Bethesda can release a buggy mess of a console port on PC and we praise it because there is heavy modding opportunity? Are you serious?

I am playing on Sweat and Blood and I still use the lvl 1 Viper sword. Drowners are dying my friend, they are crying not laughing. Maybe you are used to a very simplified combat mechanic of Skyrim? Tried using signs and bombs and actually positioning yourself in a fight?
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Well now then why do lots of folks have over 1k plus in the game of skyrim if it sucks so bacly according to you? You must be a console player as the inventory system here with TW 3# sucks the armor and weapons restrictions are bullshit. lack of storage. You pay 2-300 gold for a diagarm and it don't ell you what ingridients your missing to make whatever it is you just spent your hard to find hard earned gold on. The xp has been non existent since 1.04 patch has been put out for the Pc. I've played 25 hrs and got 15 xp.

As for your playing it on sweat and blood with a level 1 sword I highly doubt that there as my level 1 swordd won't even do any damage to most even using bombs and oils.

As for the menuing system and having to hit the esc key got knows how many times to get of somewhere and back in the game?

Like I said the only thing for which TW3 has going for it so far is that it's open world though it ties your hands in regards to weapons and armor as to what you are able to use. Even the old baulders Gate series was better in allot of ways then TW 3 and how longs it been for that one there?
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CharlesGrey: Just throwing in my 2 cents worth: I really think it's no fair or realistic to claim that Witcher 1 is objectively better than Witcher 3. I can understand that some people enjoyed the first one more, based on their own preferences. But when you compare them objectively, there's just way too many improvements. At the most, maybe the first ( or second ) was better in some aspects, but when you look at the whole package, then Witcher 3 comes out on top, no question about it.
Problem is, you can't compare things objectively, not only because we are subjective, but because of method of comparison, especially if you're about to compare them as whole, or broken down to parts, like game's territory, amount of quests, quality of quests, number of VO actors, volume of text, quality of text, enjoyment and experience from gameplay, or f requency of litany of curses spoken, because of game's flaws. /grin
Yes, there are some good quests, touching, emotional, CDPR, contrary to some people, actually manage to raise real adult questions, they don't guide you with moral compass like many other developers do, some quests manage to close loose ends left in books, some make nice jabs to book events or characters, but some quests feel more like a placeholder, or fell like rework or reuse of something already happened. Not a game breaker, sure, but worsens the aftertaste. What is definitely wrong (for me, as I said, we are subjective), is a clusterfuck of problems, involving controls, GUI, and apparent collisions issues, causing both Geralt and his horse collect all bumps, invisible walls, and what else there is. These things greatly worsen the experience for me. After 4+ days spent in game I still can't used to controls, they are still unpredictable and laggy. I don't know reason behind it, but I find it difficult to enjoy game with controls like that. This includes key bindings. GUI is also one huge problem, that in my eyes has problems with word "usability". Again, maybe it's console nature of the game, maybe some other considerations, but existing interface is calling for double facepalm from Picard and Riker. As for collisions, just read all topic where people ask WTF is wrong with Roach. Game offering vast space, but providing such uncomfortable and unpredictable transport? I'd understand should this be PC only game, such things are expected, but for a console release? This is an outrage! (Sorry, couldn't resist:)). Surely, not necessarily everyone should have problems with all that, for some these issues do not exist, but they exist for me. Maybe some of them would be patched, removed, or improved in Enhanced Edition, should we receive one, but for now they are there.
Things listed above I consider be a bit less subjective than some other problems I have with game, such as alchemy and skill system, combat animation pattern (pauses between attacks are too long for my taste), some visual issues. No, not about downgrade "per se", more on inability to increase draw distance for certain elements, to prevent po-ups. Wildly appearing tattoos and moustaches look hilarious. So while I'm not sure CDPR is about to improve visuals/LOD system much. I just have GTA V example, where on consoles' level of settings game works fine, but turn them up a bit and whoah, Roach, what a trainwreck! Of course, of course, different games, different engines, but interestingly similar problems.
But I digress. For W3 to became a whole lot better game, it first need to fix those issues. Whether CDPR is about to do that, is up to them. If you or anybody else is in disagreement, and can enjoy W3 despite things I listed, or because you don't see them as problems, well, I'm happy for you. But I'm old and grumpy enough to not to close my eyes on things making my gaming experience difficult or not so pleasant. As this game really deserve a smooth enjoyment.
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To me the worst thing in W3 is the ending. Not decribing anything at all(What happend to the Awalakh how Ciri deafeated the white death etc etc) moreover when you play after it nothing changed in the world, i just went into Oksenfurt and see Redanian troops everywhere BOSH! It also has some story flaws like i visited Undvik before i had the main quest on it for example and had the cutscene where Geralt was hiding from the giant then when i have the quest Geralt tells to the Krah " Are you sure that Snow Giants still exist did anyone see it?" JFC That made me facepalm.
Post edited May 31, 2015 by Rozenman