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Zoidberg: I honestly ADVISE people to download a torrent before contemplating giving money for this.

There are enough issues to make it a messed up launch...
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Donnylad: you would trust a torrent that could be full of viruses and could be a BitCoin farm hiding in it i value my PC componants

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bobmartien: Your thread sounds like "why i'm paying when people get it for free".
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Donnylad: sounds llike am not stealling why should others copyright is real
I know how to torrent, and I have an antivirus! :D

Besides, it'd be the gog installer for sure. :P
Clearly donnylad does not understand the bigger picture.

Whatever opinion we might have of witcher or its publisher they treat us as grown ups, intelligent people and let us do what we want. You want to download illegal copies? Go ahead they released drm free product. You know why they did something like that? Why no other publisher will do it?

They did it because they KNOW their product is of high quality and its quality will make people buy it. Right before the release game had over 1,5 milion pre orders !! can you imagine that? 1.5 milion people trusted CDP Red based on trailer, screen shots and previews...

I will bet you they will sell another 1.5 milion copies after the release. I had a chance to play a game for 5 minutes at my friends, i must say the quality of graphics, open world and loot fest is impressive. Size of the map scares me a bit.

Think about torrents as another form of marketing. Having made such a wonderful product, even those who torrent it, they will buy it once they see what's in front of them.
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Donnylad: i pay for The Witcher 3 and you get ppl putting up torrents for teh game no crack needed just the day 1 patch SORT THIS OUT get on top of it and get them taken down its not fair for thos who are paying to support the DEVS
So this is the first time you actually buy a game ? You didnt care when it was your parents paying ??? So yeah it's been around since forever and you cant do anything about it....Ive also purchase the game with MY own money and torrents are ok if your not sure and wanna test the game a bit before buying......i have 600+ games on steam and yeah sometimes i also check em out before...and great things torrents are there because some game are just trash and you spend your money for nothing....now go tell your mom and dad how much you preciated when they were buying your games :P
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Goodmongo: And this is why it's a f'd up world. Sometimes you have to force people to change their culture if that culture is wrong. I can't believe you condone slavery or honor killings. Guess the world lacks morals today.
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Ryuubei: So who decides whose morals are right? Society? Yeah cause society gets everything right!

I don't condone honour killings, and in my country (UK) it' illegal and anyone who does it gets slamed. However we don't have the right to go to another country and say 'your morals arent ours, so your wrong. We're going to force you to change'. NOONE has that right, thinking like that has lead to just about every major war we've ever had, and it never solves anything.

People should just stop sticking their noses into places it dosent belong
I see you're from the UK. Maybe you should read some of your own history. Like what Charles Napier said while in India. he had it right after all.

"Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs."
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Zoidberg: I honestly ADVISE people to download a torrent before contemplating giving money for this.

There are enough issues to make it a messed up launch...
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Export: I agree with this. I've been in several forums today and it's 90% "the game keeps crashing on PC" and "this game runs like crap on my i7, 16GB, 970 PC", then partly certain issues like passing a turn in the Gwent game causing the game to crash on PS4 (I had this too) and myself and some other players have also had a problem where the game won't update past 1.01. I've also had the quite funny but also disappointing thing of Geralt's buddy Vesemir riding along on an invisible horse.

All in all its okay for me on PS4 but the PC version sounds like it could turn out to be a disaster for you, some people saying it's crashing every 10-15 mins or so.
There is a simple easy fix for that.
Post edited May 19, 2015 by Goodmongo
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Ryuubei: So who decides whose morals are right? Society? Yeah cause society gets everything right!

I don't condone honour killings, and in my country (UK) it' illegal and anyone who does it gets slamed. However we don't have the right to go to another country and say 'your morals arent ours, so your wrong. We're going to force you to change'. NOONE has that right, thinking like that has lead to just about every major war we've ever had, and it never solves anything.

People should just stop sticking their noses into places it dosent belong
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Goodmongo: I see you're from the UK. Maybe you should read some of your own history. Like what Charles Napier said while in India. he had it right after all.

"Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs."
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Export: I agree with this. I've been in several forums today and it's 90% "the game keeps crashing on PC" and "this game runs like crap on my i7, 16GB, 970 PC", then partly certain issues like passing a turn in the Gwent game causing the game to crash on PS4 (I had this too) and myself and some other players have also had a problem where the game won't update past 1.01. I've also had the quite funny but also disappointing thing of Geralt's buddy Vesemir riding along on an invisible horse.

All in all its okay for me on PS4 but the PC version sounds like it could turn out to be a disaster for you, some people saying it's crashing every 10-15 mins or so.
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Goodmongo: There is a simple easy fix for that.
Exactly my point, UK caused enough problems over the years pushing their view of morality on others
The reason why I purchase games on gog.com is because said torrents exist. And they SHOULD exist.
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cc0537: You also have to remember culture. In some cultures it's considered an honor to be copied/pirated etc etc. Stopping piracy isn't that simple. If it were we'd have done it a long time ago.
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Goodmongo: And in some cultures it's OK to kill your wife. And in others slavery is OK. Do you support those also?
No is being enslaved or killed here. Oppressions is not the same as copying.
Also, stealing is permitted in the Abrahamic belief system (Christian, Muslims and Jews). It might seem odd but it's part of the culture that's allowed depending on the conditions.

My point is the problem is much deeper rooted than you think. We think differently about stealing a song compared to an Eastern citizen who feels they're enjoying/honoring the fruits of their fellow man by listening to a pirated song. Think of it this way: Our society DYFS is on your back for spanking kids. In their society it's ok.
You do realize that because of piracy some companies are not even porting to the PC. They are console only. Thats what pirates will eventually get you. No games to play at all.
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Goodmongo: You do realize that because of piracy some companies are not even porting to the PC. They are console only. Thats what pirates will eventually get you. No games to play at all.
++thats usually cause their games are so bad they no noone would buy them on PC
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Goodmongo: You do realize that because of piracy some companies are not even porting to the PC. They are console only. Thats what pirates will eventually get you. No games to play at all.
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Ryuubei: ++thats usually cause their games are so bad they no noone would buy them on PC
Yea go ahead and keep lying to yourself. I'm still waiting for Red Dead Redemption for my PC.
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Ryuubei: ++thats usually cause their games are so bad they no noone would buy them on PC
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Goodmongo: Yea go ahead and keep lying to yourself. I'm still waiting for Red Dead Redemption for my PC.
Sure there are some good ones, but if you honestly think piracy is the reason we don't have Red Dead Redemption on PC you're very deluded
Just to add my 5 cents, guys.

I'am about to pirate Witcher 3 just to make sure it runs on my laptop (have doubts apparently).
If it does - purchasing it definitely.

Didn't read the whole thread, hope someone already mentioned such use of torrents.
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Goodmongo: You do realize that because of piracy some companies are not even porting to the PC.
Completely false.
You should do some proper research about it.
I've actually stumbled upon this thread because I was looking for one. I'm getting a copy of the game tomorrow (my birthday is on the 1st and it is my present), my PC doesn't have an optical drive so I'll have to resort to downloading it. I work most of the day so I'd like to do it today rather than tomorrow, since I'd rather not have my broadband completely devoured during the weekend.

So that is a thing. But since I can't find a gog version of the download (only updates) I guess I'll have to sit around with the copy of the game on my lap for the weekend.
Just go out, and buy a usb optical drive. You can have one for under 20.