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Brashen: You are absolutely correct. Unfortunately, your own argument shows that CDPR chose to upset PC users instead of console users.

Yes, money makes the world go 'round. Is anyone actually surprised by this?
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skeletonbow: I have to disagree with that. CD Projekt RED didn't choose to upset anyone. Individual people choose to be upset about things themselves even if they also choose to not accept responsibility for making the choice. This is easily evidenced by the fact that two people can both agree about the same thing, and only one of them be upset about it.

Our emotions are not created by other people, they come from within. Once I learned that in life, I started choosing to not see the world through a negative angry-filter. The view is so much nicer now even when things don't turn out in my favour or are otherwise suboptimal.

As always though, everyone is free to choose for themselves whether they prefer to feel angry or upset about things.
Ahh... so now you'll take the 'enlightened' approach. LOL

Once again, although there is a small amount of validity in your argument, it ignores 2 relevant facts.

1. Not everyone is so... 'enlightened'.

2. Number 1 is common knowledge, so to assume CDPR is unaware of number 1 is naive.

On second thought, I will give you points for one thing... you sure do like listening to yourself talk.
Post edited July 10, 2015 by Brashen
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Brashen: On second thought, I will give you points for one thing... you sure do like listening to yourself talk.
+1.

What I got from his comments so far is:

1) Console people might get upset if PC got patch first.
2) PC people shouldn't get upset about past compromises since CDPR didn't mean to slight them.
3) If console people do get upset CDPR needs to do everything it can to rectify this situation.
4) It's PC's people's own fault if they get upset.
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Brashen: On second thought, I will give you points for one thing... you sure do like listening to yourself talk.
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Goodmongo: +1.

What I got from his comments so far is:

1) Console people might get upset if PC got patch first.
2) PC people shouldn't get upset about past compromises since CDPR didn't mean to slight them.
3) If console people do get upset CDPR needs to do everything it can to rectify this situation.
4) It's PC's people's own fault if they get upset.
+1

Ergo console fanboy? Let's denounce him! :)
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korbain: Dude just shuttup. You have no idea how the business side of this stuff works, you're complaining for the sake of complaining.

They're supporting all their fans equally. If you are too stupid to understand go play something else and don't post here anymore. You annoying prik
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Goodmongo: Maybe you should keep your mouth sut and stop proving to the world how ignorant you really are. Or better yet do the world a favor and stop emitting CO2.

Now if you can read may I suggest you read some of the posts by RudyLis that details exactly how and why the PC has been taken for granted.

If these forums are too much for you to handle go back to your mama's basement and cry there.
oh here comes the tough guy lol you're bitching over nothing though, its embarrassing. Just enjoy the game and wait for the patch. Getting all upset and edgy because of a patch for a game haha
in b4 404?

mods are pretty chill here tho. y'all guys need to chill also.
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fjdgshdkeavd: in b4 404?

mods are pretty chill here tho. y'all guys need to chill also.
Another example of the devolution of language. What took several thousand years to evolve will be destroyed in one generation. We'll all be picking nats out of each others hair for protein before much longer.

Way to go sir. Your mother must be proud.
https://twitter.com/witchergame/status/619527487848996864 by CDbadPR

patch delayed
Post edited July 11, 2015 by Hamon
They clearly say it's not delayed on that thread...

They didn't promise a patch this week. They promised a changelog this week. We got our changelog. They have (wisely) yet to commit to a release date.
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GrayBlondie: They clearly say it's not delayed on that thread...

They didn't promise a patch this week. They promised a changelog this week. We got our changelog. They have (wisely) yet to commit to a release date.
You can argue semantics all you want, but when they stated they would not be releasing DLC this week as they were busy getting the patch ready, the patch release this week was implied.
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GrayBlondie: They clearly say it's not delayed on that thread...

They didn't promise a patch this week. They promised a changelog this week. We got our changelog. They have (wisely) yet to commit to a release date.
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Brashen: You can argue semantics all you want, but when they stated they would not be releasing DLC this week as they were busy getting the patch ready, the patch release this week was implied.
Haha that's not semantics, they delivered exactly what they promised. I don't know why you would assume no DLC meant patch this week. If they also worked on DLC this week the patch might still be a week and a half away instead of maybe a half a week away (those are compelete guesses/shots in the dark). You don't know their production schedule and they gave us what they said they would. You implied incorrectly.
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Brashen: You can argue semantics all you want, but when they stated they would not be releasing DLC this week as they were busy getting the patch ready, the patch release this week was implied.
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GrayBlondie: Haha that's not semantics, they delivered exactly what they promised. I don't know why you would assume no DLC meant patch this week. If they also worked on DLC this week the patch might still be a week and a half away instead of maybe a half a week away (those are compelete guesses/shots in the dark). You don't know their production schedule and they gave us what they said they would. You implied incorrectly.
I implied nothing. I may have made an incorrect assumption, but the implicaton was still there, and not made by me.

And... HaHa... semantics are exactly what you're discussing so I'm not sure where you're chuckle comes from.
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GrayBlondie: Haha that's not semantics, they delivered exactly what they promised. I don't know why you would assume no DLC meant patch this week. If they also worked on DLC this week the patch might still be a week and a half away instead of maybe a half a week away (those are compelete guesses/shots in the dark). You don't know their production schedule and they gave us what they said they would. You implied incorrectly.
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Brashen: I implied nothing. I may have made an incorrect assumption, but the implicaton was still there, and not made by me.

And... HaHa... semantics are exactly what you're discussing so I'm not sure where you're chuckle comes from.
Assumption/implication whatever - those would be semantics if you wanted to get into it. Semantics deals with the meaning of words/phrases and the meaning of what they said was in no way ambiguous. Semantics is very often down to phrasing, which is not the issue here. I just think it's an inaccurate description of the subject matter, no offense intended. Don't need to get into that on these forums.

They gave us what they promised and if people are upset because they assumed incorrectly that's not CDPR's fault. Patch could still be 2 weeks away (I hope not) and the only reason they didn't work on DLC this week was to make sure it's not 3 weeks away. Now they've promised more info next week, which again, does not mean a release, and if people assume otherwise they're setting themselves up to be let down. Let them finish and release a date. THEN we can holler and riot if they push it back ;)
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Brashen: I implied nothing. I may have made an incorrect assumption, but the implicaton was still there, and not made by me.

And... HaHa... semantics are exactly what you're discussing so I'm not sure where you're chuckle comes from.
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GrayBlondie: Assumption/implication whatever - those would be semantics if you wanted to get into it. Semantics deals with the meaning of words/phrases and the meaning of what they said was in no way ambiguous. Semantics is very often down to phrasing, which is not the issue here. I just think it's an inaccurate description of the subject matter, no offense intended. Don't need to get into that on these forums.

They gave us what they promised and if people are upset because they assumed incorrectly that's not CDPR's fault. Patch could still be 2 weeks away (I hope not) and the only reason they didn't work on DLC this week was to make sure it's not 3 weeks away. Now they've promised more info next week, which again, does not mean a release, and if people assume otherwise they're setting themselves up to be let down. Let them finish and release a date. THEN we can holler and riot if they push it back ;)
You sound intelligent enough so I'm not sure why you are refusing to admit semantics is the topic at hand. I'm not sure how else to break it down other than to say... assumptions derived from implicaitons are the very heart of semantics. I'm not going to bother hunting it down at this point, but to paraphrase, 'we won't be releasing dlc this week because we are busy with the patch' implies an impending patch release this week. If only because downloading content, wether patch or dlc, is a focus for customers.

Did CDPR not mean to imply this? Could language/translation issues all play a part? Certainly possible.

Well, just got informed I have to watch a movie now, so gotta go.
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GrayBlondie: Assumption/implication whatever - those would be semantics if you wanted to get into it. Semantics deals with the meaning of words/phrases and the meaning of what they said was in no way ambiguous. Semantics is very often down to phrasing, which is not the issue here. I just think it's an inaccurate description of the subject matter, no offense intended. Don't need to get into that on these forums.

They gave us what they promised and if people are upset because they assumed incorrectly that's not CDPR's fault. Patch could still be 2 weeks away (I hope not) and the only reason they didn't work on DLC this week was to make sure it's not 3 weeks away. Now they've promised more info next week, which again, does not mean a release, and if people assume otherwise they're setting themselves up to be let down. Let them finish and release a date. THEN we can holler and riot if they push it back ;)
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Brashen: You sound intelligent enough so I'm not sure why you are refusing to admit semantics is the topic at hand. I'm not sure how else to break it down other than to say... assumptions derived from implicaitons are the very heart of semantics. I'm not going to bother hunting it down at this point, but to paraphrase, 'we won't be releasing dlc this week because we are busy with the patch' implies an impending patch release this week. If only because downloading content, wether patch or dlc, is a focus for customers.

Did CDPR not mean to imply this? Could language/translation issues all play a part? Certainly possible.

Well, just got informed I have to watch a movie now, so gotta go.
Basically I disagree that their statement implied a patch release this week. It didn't. It implies they needed more time to make the patch, sure. But reading into it any more than that is not implication, it's speculation. CDPR didn't imply anything in their release. People assumed things, which only ends in frustration.
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Brashen: You sound intelligent enough so I'm not sure why you are refusing to admit semantics is the topic at hand. I'm not sure how else to break it down other than to say... assumptions derived from implicaitons are the very heart of semantics. I'm not going to bother hunting it down at this point, but to paraphrase, 'we won't be releasing dlc this week because we are busy with the patch' implies an impending patch release this week. If only because downloading content, wether patch or dlc, is a focus for customers.

Did CDPR not mean to imply this? Could language/translation issues all play a part? Certainly possible.

Well, just got informed I have to watch a movie now, so gotta go.
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GrayBlondie: Basically I disagree that their statement implied a patch release this week. It didn't. It implies they needed more time to make the patch, sure. But reading into it any more than that is not implication, it's speculation. CDPR didn't imply anything in their release. People assumed things, which only ends in frustration.
Ok, so you are either unwilling or unable to properly debate this topic. I will extend a courtesy and assume you are unwilling. Given that, there is really nowhere else to go.

I will admit a curiosity however... what system are you playing Wild Hunt on?