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darthspudius: lol yeah I grew up just using the keyboard for Doom. I didn't know it had mouse support until i bought it on Steam a few yrs ago >_<

Funny when you think about it.

this is seriously a deal breaker? Man, gamers use to be happy with so many different control types. Now they're too lazy to memorise more than one. What a shame.
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omega64: I believe WASD can be very hard to use for some as not everyone has a QWERTY keyboard.
Indeed, or someone with physical problems. Unfortunately nothing will sort my problem >_< haha
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darthspudius: lol yeah I grew up just using the keyboard for Doom. I didn't know it had mouse support until i bought it on Steam a few yrs ago >_<

Funny when you think about it.
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Avalan: Oh, you didn't use the mouse at all? *laugh* I was joking. Oh, wow. Although, now that I think about, I do remember coming across a few people over the years following the arrival of DOOM who never used the Strafe keys. Some didn't know what they did and others never even knew they existed.

So yeah, funny. I, for example, went on to use SDGB, DFHN or sometimes ASFV, so I may be the weirdest of all :o)

@ Others :o)

I agree with much being said here. I'm at a loss. I have no idea why this wasn't just a given.
Everything should be adaptable I always thought. Different keyboard settings should be available but for some people unwillingness to use WASD even without reason is just silly. If you have a reason then I can understand the frustration but if you don't then they just quite moaning. :P

I was an arrows key person until games started being unchangeable. Still annoys me to this day lol.
Post edited May 19, 2015 by darthspudius
Huge WTF moment when i started to play this game for the first time... HOW THE HELL COULD THEY CREATE A GAME WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO REBIND YOUR MOVEMENT KEYS!!

Shame steam doesn't do refund... can't play this game like this
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Teemeister: That's what I thought too, until I was in a fight and I had to

Dodge, block, switch between spells, cast spells, throw bombs, attack strong, attack fast, roll forward/backward/left/right, jump and last but not least move normally.

Somehow the four keys just won't cut it for me...

Game is unplayable for me as a leftie in its current state. Keybinding is broken and needs fixing, period.
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Brogan80: Well, understandably, nobody's playstyle is exactly the same, and I have been spending almost all of my playtime thus far trying out different combinations of mappings.

But as for your example, how I have it set up is:

I remapped Jump to RMB, remapped Parry/Witcher Sense to the first thumb mouse button, remapped cast sign to the 2nd thumb button (still change signs via mouse wheel), and remapped Strong attack to the top middle mouse button. I use the Numpad buttons for things like throw bombs, and the dodge function is performed by holding RMB (jump) + a direction arrow key.

So, while I am far from effective at fighting still, I can at least imagine how the scenario would play out.

Here's hoping we all get some help with this.
Thanks, that's an interesting suggestion. I'm still using a vanilla three button/wheel mouse and might get something more fancy soon. The remaining question is: Will games (not just W3) support the additional buttons of such a device?
Post edited May 20, 2015 by Teemeister
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Teemeister: Thanks, that's an interesting suggestion. I'm still using a vanilla three button/wheel mouse and might get something more fancy soon. The remaining question is: Will games (not just W3) support the additional buttons of such a device?
If they are properly programmed, yes. Whether you use "old" DirectInput, WM_INPUT messages/X11, SDL, or any other library around... the basic pattern is the same: you get input events, and map them to your game actions.

If your code gets events it doesn't know yet... you can ignore them (bad style), or pass them on to the mapping (better).
So if in addition to IK_Mouse4 there is a IK_Mouse5, no problems. IK_Mouse6? fine... IK_Mouse7? Why not.

Completely new approaches of input as touch screens provide - two-finger-swipes, combined gestures and such - are much harder to cover. But more buttons? That's dead simple, automatic even if your input processing is solid.
The impossibility to rebind key is absolutely untolerable in this time and age.
The game is completely unplayable for people who don't use wasd such as myself.
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Fuz: The impossibility to rebind key is absolutely untolerable in this time and age.
The game is completely unplayable for people who don't use wasd such as myself.
Especially as there are two different ways listed here how to solve this problem, the game is completely playable in 10 minutes time with the layout you wish to use.
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Fuz: The impossibility to rebind key is absolutely untolerable in this time and age.
The game is completely unplayable for people who don't use wasd such as myself.
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mmarci: Especially as there are two different ways listed here how to solve this problem, the game is completely playable in 10 minutes time with the layout you wish to use.
But you can't, since some are hardcoded.
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mmarci: Especially as there are two different ways listed here how to solve this problem, the game is completely playable in 10 minutes time with the layout you wish to use.
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Fuz: But you can't, since some are hardcoded.
Did you really read it? :)
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Rundio: Huge WTF moment when i started to play this game for the first time... HOW THE HELL COULD THEY CREATE A GAME WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO REBIND YOUR MOVEMENT KEYS!!

Shame steam doesn't do refund... can't play this game like this
I know right? I WTFed so loud my arse came up to my brain to ask what was wrong.
I don't want a refund. I waited for this game for three frickin years.
I want key rebind, I want FOV options. Not to much to ask from a AAA game I think.
Most of all I just want to be able to enjoy the game.
Post edited May 20, 2015 by korli2
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Rundio: Huge WTF moment when i started to play this game for the first time... HOW THE HELL COULD THEY CREATE A GAME WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO REBIND YOUR MOVEMENT KEYS!!

Shame steam doesn't do refund... can't play this game like this
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korli2: I know right? I WTFed so loud my arse came up to my brain to ask what was wrong.
I don't want a refund. I waited for this game for three frickin years.
I want key rebind, I want FOV options. Not to much to ask from a AAA game I think.
Most of all I just want to be able to enjoy the game.
That's one of the things for me: I was looking forward to this game so much, I actually pre-ordered. The thing that so many say about "Never pre-order. Ever."? I with them now.
Leftie as well. Can't play unless I remap.

GOG refused a refund - said I already downloaded. DUH - If I had known I wouldn't have pre-ordered in the first place. I have a PS4 console and had I wanted to play the game on a console instead of a PC, I would have ordered if for the PlayStation.

Witcher 1 and Witcher 2 and all the other games I bought on GOG can be remapped so I can play.

Got burned with Dragon Age: Inquisition even after waiting 4 months. Seeing all the PC problems, I decided on the PS4 version. After downloading the Black Emporium DLC - game locks up for a lot of players. Getting so you can't trust the big studios once they have your money.

Per CD Redprojekt Support:

I'm afraid that changing certain key-bindings is not possible for now.
The only hotfix I can recommend is to switch to an xbox pad (both 360 and x1 are compatible)

Kind regards,

TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Post edited May 20, 2015 by LaughingCrow
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LaughingCrow: Leftie as well. Can't play unless I remap.

GOG refused a refund - said I already downloaded. DUH - If I had known I wouldn't have pre-ordered in the first place. I have a PS4 console and had I wanted to play the game on a console instead of a PC, I would have ordered if for the PlayStation.

Witcher 1 and Witcher 2 and all the other games I bought on GOG can be remapped so I can play.

Per CD Redprojekt Support:

I'm afraid that changing certain key-bindings is not possible for now.
The only hotfix I can recommend is to switch to an xbox pad (both 360 and x1 are compatible)

Kind regards,

TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Sad that I'm trying to consider "...not possible for now." as hope.

I'm very much of the view that the phrase "...switch to an xbox pad..." is not actually a recommendation when using a PC. I'm also thinking that TECHNICAL SUPPORT are stretching the term hotfix.
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korli2: I know right? I WTFed so loud my arse came up to my brain to ask what was wrong.
I don't want a refund. I waited for this game for three frickin years.
I want key rebind, I want FOV options. Not to much to ask from a AAA game I think.
Most of all I just want to be able to enjoy the game.
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Avalan: That's one of the things for me: I was looking forward to this game so much, I actually pre-ordered. The thing that so many say about "Never pre-order. Ever."? I with them now.
"Never preorder, ever" is my personal policy. I never preorer anything or buy season passes.
But I did an exception for cdpr, and only for them, because I trusted them after the two other games and their customer treatment.
Fortunately, I canceled my CE preorder because of the exclusive xbox ce issue. So glad I did now. cdpr lost all my trust and respect.
I am a left handed player and i stoped after 1H .It's juste awful for me to play :( without bind a keys i need to use
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Avalan: That's one of the things for me: I was looking forward to this game so much, I actually pre-ordered. The thing that so many say about "Never pre-order. Ever."? I with them now.
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Fuz: "Never preorder, ever" is my personal policy. I never preorer anything or buy season passes.
But I did an exception for cdpr, and only for them, because I trusted them after the two other games and their customer treatment.
Fortunately, I canceled my CE preorder because of the exclusive xbox ce issue. So glad I did now. cdpr lost all my trust and respect.
Same. Not going to pre order again until I get confirmation of a list I now compiled keybinding beingon the top and ANY key for accessibility.

I thought CDPR red was different and yes their statement does give hope but it is too non descript. It needs to say "There is no fix yet but we are working on it".....THAT would be the CDPR I know !!!!! But we need an answer on it.

I've not downloaded it yet so I don't know if I can still try for refund. The thing is I don't want a refund I want to PLAY it but I need key rebind ! I love CDPR but they badly dropped the ball on this one. All future titles we need to first check CAN I REBIND EVERY KEY.

:)
Post edited May 20, 2015 by styggron