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Hickory: My point is that people complain like hell about having paid more for the game and its DLC, as it came out, than it costs to buy the GOTY a year later, yet they don't bat an eyelid about spending oodles of money on meaningless junk food and stuff like that. It's complaining for the sake of complaining.
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yoginc: Well i guess because junk food, though being junk food, actually serves a purpose. Filling an empty stomach, therefore can be called a 'Need'. Unlike video games which are only a leisurely activity, and customers always want better deals on such products. Like how it is in supermarkets and shopping malls
You're completely missing the point.
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yoginc: Well i guess because junk food, though being junk food, actually serves a purpose. Filling an empty stomach, therefore can be called a 'Need'. Unlike video games which are only a leisurely activity, and customers always want better deals on such products. Like how it is in supermarkets and shopping malls
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Hickory: You're completely missing the point.
But you're comparing apples with oranges. You have to make a better example..
Post edited August 30, 2016 by yoginc
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Hickory: You're completely missing the point.
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yoginc: But you're comparing apples with oranges. You have to make a better example..
No I'm not. No I don't.
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KSM: Sorry if i sound rude, english is not may native language.
But i still can't understand connection between price of the game and other personal spendings so i asked a question.
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Hickory: My point is that people complain like hell about having paid more for the game and its DLC, as it came out, than it costs to buy the GOTY a year later, yet they don't bat an eyelid about spending oodles of money on meaningless junk food and stuff like that. It's complaining for the sake of complaining.
Actually, had I gotten the Expansion Pass a year ago, I would not mind the GOTY price now. The issue I see is that anyone who currently has the base game, but *not* the Expansion Pass is essentially still being asked to pay full price on the expansions whereas someone just coming in now gets a discount on both.

Bring down the Expansion Pack cost a bit or give a way to upgrade to GOTY at an equivalent discount, I'm good with that. But at the moment, it does not even make sense when you do the combination:

Witcher 3 = $39.99
Expansion Pass = $24.99
Total = $64.98

compared to...

Witcher GOTY = $49.99
Post edited August 30, 2016 by tanek
I bought the base game for $30 when it was on sale, so +$25 for the Season Pass = $55 vs. $50 for the launch sale of GOTY, not a big loss. Since it's going to go up to $60 when the launch sale ends can still feel a litttle good about it.

There will always be a better sale the longer you wait, that's pretty much a rule these days. It's a tradeoff between paying a cash premium to have everything now / as it's released or paying a time premium to wait and miss out for 6 months or a year while trying to avoid spoilers and listening to your friends go on about how great it is.

You as a consumer have a choice and make the decision. If you want to blame someone for not giving you as good a deal as possible, ask yourself first why you couldn't wait, and was the extra $15-$30 was worth being able to play the game a YEAR before the GOTY Edition release.
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SWM753: There will always be a better sale the longer you wait, that's pretty much a rule these days. It's a tradeoff between paying a cash premium to have everything now / as it's released or paying a time premium to wait and miss out for 6 months or a year while trying to avoid spoilers and listening to your friends go on about how great it is.
Which would be perfect if the "better deal over time" applied to the expansions as well. Waiting on those after getting the base game, though, seems like you lose out on both the time and the money side.
Just a clarification, I have not purchased the season pass yet, so I only own the base game. I was simply able to go without long enough for when there was a sale for the base game for $30. I haven't bought the pass yet since I haven't played the game much yet, since I've decided I'm going to try finish the first two and use the save import to see what differences there will be between the default and the imported.

Yes, the season pass still costing $25 kind of sucks, but the season pass was marketed as a discount bundle of the DLC in the first place, and season passes usually don't get cheaper, but then again usually don't get more expensive ('cough Fallout cough 4'). Yes, having to wait for the DLC the be released regardless of when you bought the game and/or season pass sucks. Waiting games suck, which is why we usually don't play the waiting game, shell out the big bucks, and complain later that we paid too much because it's easier than waiting.

A perfect deal would be nice, but those are few and far between. We just have to make do with what we're given.
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SWM753: I bought the base game for $30 when it was on sale, so +$25 for the Season Pass = $55 vs. $50 for the launch sale of GOTY, not a big loss. Since it's going to go up to $60 when the launch sale ends can still feel a litttle good about it.

There will always be a better sale the longer you wait, that's pretty much a rule these days. It's a tradeoff between paying a cash premium to have everything now / as it's released or paying a time premium to wait and miss out for 6 months or a year while trying to avoid spoilers and listening to your friends go on about how great it is.

You as a consumer have a choice and make the decision. If you want to blame someone for not giving you as good a deal as possible, ask yourself first why you couldn't wait, and was the extra $15-$30 was worth being able to play the game a YEAR before the GOTY Edition release.
I in different region. I have price of 1000RUB on Expasion pass, almost as much as main game 1200RUB.
GOTY have price of 1500RUB.
1000RUB for upgrade is way to mach. If Expasion pass was like 600-700RUB i would buy it now. I got hyped - i pay more. (it was on sale, so total of 1780RUB)
But with this price ratio it's just unfair.
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SWM753: Yes, the season pass still costing $25 kind of sucks, but the season pass was marketed as a discount bundle of the DLC in the first place, and season passes usually don't get cheaper
It may have been marketed as being cheaper, but even there the numbers don't add up. At best, getting the Pass saved you $5 (since the Expansions launched at a 10% discount, it was more like $3) and right now the base game + Pass is $15 more than the GOTY.
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SWM753: I bought the base game for $30 when it was on sale, so +$25 for the Season Pass = $55 vs. $50 for the launch sale of GOTY, not a big loss. Since it's going to go up to $60 when the launch sale ends can still feel a litttle good about it.

There will always be a better sale the longer you wait, that's pretty much a rule these days. It's a tradeoff between paying a cash premium to have everything now / as it's released or paying a time premium to wait and miss out for 6 months or a year while trying to avoid spoilers and listening to your friends go on about how great it is.

You as a consumer have a choice and make the decision. If you want to blame someone for not giving you as good a deal as possible, ask yourself first why you couldn't wait, and was the extra $15-$30 was worth being able to play the game a YEAR before the GOTY Edition release.
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KSM: I in different region. I have price of 1000RUB on Expasion pass, almost as much as main game 1200RUB.
GOTY have price of 1500RUB.
1000RUB for upgrade is way to mach. If Expasion pass was like 600-700RUB i would buy it now. I got hyped - i pay more. (it was on sale, so total of 1780RUB)
But with this price ratio it's just unfair.
Precisely this, although for me expansions cost "only" as half as much as the original game. At this point the GOTY gets a significant discount over the initial price of both vanilla and expansions. Early buyers don't, and to add insult to injury, they have no choice but paying for the game they already own all over again. Goes double sour for those who preordered, considering the price of the game back then (more expensive than current GOTY price). It isn't fair and it is a slap in the face for those who didn't intentionally wait for the prices to drop or buy on a sale.
Too bad we're missing out on all the GUI and gfx changes. I thought I did a good thing by purchasing it day1 (incl. expansions) and supporting the developers, but I kinda feel like an idiot now given I still haven't found the time to play it. This will be the last time I buy a game from day1. But then again: I already made that commitment after Arkham Knight. :-D

At least Divinity:Original Sin has the sense to reward loyalty and offer the upgrades for free. I backed it years ago on kickstarter and only just started playing the Enhanced Edition. I might end up buying OS2 immediately.

I don't mean to be sour, though. The people that bought the game upon released and enjoyed it so far have gotten their money's worth. And I'm confident I'll get my money's worth too once I finally play it :p.
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Marginal0: Too bad we're missing out on all the GUI and gfx changes.
What changes are we missing?
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Marginal0: Too bad we're missing out on all the GUI and gfx changes.
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tanek: What changes are we missing?
Absolutely none.
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Hickory: My point is that people complain like hell about having paid more for the game and its DLC, as it came out, than it costs to buy the GOTY a year later, yet they don't bat an eyelid about spending oodles of money on meaningless junk food and stuff like that. It's complaining for the sake of complaining.
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tanek: Actually, had I gotten the Expansion Pass a year ago, I would not mind the GOTY price now. The issue I see is that anyone who currently has the base game, but *not* the Expansion Pass is essentially still being asked to pay full price on the expansions whereas someone just coming in now gets a discount on both.

Bring down the Expansion Pack cost a bit or give a way to upgrade to GOTY at an equivalent discount, I'm good with that. But at the moment, it does not even make sense when you do the combination:

Witcher 3 = $39.99
Expansion Pass = $24.99
Total = $64.98

compared to...

Witcher GOTY = $49.99
Aye this doesn't make much sense. I got my base game from a video game coupon but there are people who pre-ordered at a higher price and undercutting them here by letting people who didn't invest money up till now to get a better deal doesn't seem like good marketing.

Then again i also don't want to fork out 25$ for the expansion pass right now since i can wait some more for a discount anyway, so.
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uaciaut: Then again i also don't want to fork out 25$ for the expansion pass right now since i can wait some more for a discount anyway, so.
Except they may have zero incentive to discount the expansions. People who only bought the base game have little choice and people who did not get the game yet will buy the GOTY. I hope I am wrong about this, but I have seen it happen for other games (it is why I did not get Dragon Age Inquisition and why I'll wait for a GOTY for Dishonored 2).