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Posted May 29, 2011
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jlibster: Many people made a similar statement about the rate of Global Warming..Enjoying the reduced winters and increased Rain, Tornados, floods yet (and possibly earthquakes triggered by increased water mass and currents)? There's more to come. Many reports are saying that global warming is progressing MUCH faster than anyone anticipated and those artic icecaps are fading fast.. BBC also indicated that above any other country in the world the USA is in certifiable levels of Global Warming denial.
Weird analogy. There are also a lot of scientists who say man-made global warming is a myth, so you know.

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jlibster: Of course MS also said similar things about let's see....the Internet, Netscape, Mozilla, Linux, Apple, W3C standards and mobile phones. which leads to the next big gaming platform in which LInux is now HUGE...smart phones. (Android=LInux although I use Cyanogen as its rooted + no Google Apps)...The androids are invading... Smart phone gaming...impossible, absurd? Well, at 4-40Gb of storage capacity and a full PC level OS with Internet connectivity, probably more flexible gaming platform than, say a PSP or NintendoDS.

"First they laugh at you, then they ignore you, then they attack you....then....you win!" - Ghandi
I don't think you are taking my comments at all the right way. I never said there is no potential, I never said there is no merit. You're doing the typical sensitive Linux user thing where you have defend it's potential at every turn. It could take over the entire PC industry in 10 years for all I know, that is not the point.

The point is right now it is infinitely small. Irrelevant to big game publishers. Shit man the PC is almost irrelevant and probably would be irrelevant to them right now if digital distribution hadn't taken off. And you're coming at me with Linux? Come on. It might grow into relevant someday like you believe it will, I am not refuting that. I am saying RIGHT NOW it is not.
Posted May 29, 2011
the OS purely depends on what you want to use it for. gamers should use windows. no one way about it it has the largest gaming support and library of working games. all around it works great and does what it needs to do.

Linux works best as a server, it can do many other things and even act as a desktop but it excels in the server field. it does what it needs to do with little hassle but expecting game support for it is a little much. sure allowing the game servers to run on it is fine, but theres no reason for a gamer to switch to it beyond running servers for it. if you like linux and you like games, then you best keep a windows partition to boot into.

mac... i really dont even know what to say... they are not software dealers. they sell hardware at huge markups.

but for now windows is the choice gaming OS
Posted May 29, 2011
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jlibster: Many people made a similar statement about the rate of Global Warming..Enjoying the reduced winters and increased Rain, Tornados, floods yet (and possibly earthquakes triggered by increased water mass and currents)? There's more to come. Many reports are saying that global warming is progressing MUCH faster than anyone anticipated and those artic icecaps are fading fast.. BBC also indicated that above any other country in the world the USA is in certifiable levels of Global Warming denial.
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StingingVelvet: Weird analogy. There are also a lot of scientists who say man-made global warming is a myth, so you know.

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jlibster: Of course MS also said similar things about let's see....the Internet, Netscape, Mozilla, Linux, Apple, W3C standards and mobile phones. which leads to the next big gaming platform in which LInux is now HUGE...smart phones. (Android=LInux although I use Cyanogen as its rooted + no Google Apps)...The androids are invading... Smart phone gaming...impossible, absurd? Well, at 4-40Gb of storage capacity and a full PC level OS with Internet connectivity, probably more flexible gaming platform than, say a PSP or NintendoDS.

"First they laugh at you, then they ignore you, then they attack you....then....you win!" - Ghandi
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StingingVelvet: I don't think you are taking my comments at all the right way. I never said there is no potential, I never said there is no merit. You're doing the typical sensitive Linux user thing where you have defend it's potential at every turn. It could take over the entire PC industry in 10 years for all I know, that is not the point.

The point is right now it is infinitely small. Irrelevant to big game publishers. Shit man the PC is almost irrelevant and probably would be irrelevant to them right now if digital distribution hadn't taken off. And you're coming at me with Linux? Come on. It might grow into relevant someday like you believe it will, I am not refuting that. I am saying RIGHT NOW it is not.
My data says not Irrelevant. Just not main stream yet. Google seems beinterested in changing that. as is Apple. The indie developers scene has more power than many believe. After all, Sierra had humble beginnings. So did EA. (back when they actually did cool stuff themselves) I worked at a few garage startups and have seen the potential, even a couple now worth over 100 mil.You may want to check out Hothead Games. they used to make top commercial games for LInux before they were bought by EA. EA is poison for so many amazing developer groups. Once EA gets in the picture, Linux development gets killed. Oh, FrozenByte, makes Linux games. I got a whole database of Linux Commercial Game developers if you are interested.
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cloud8521: the OS purely depends on what you want to use it for. gamers should use windows. no one way about it it has the largest gaming support and library of working games. all around it works great and does what it needs to do.

Linux works best as a server, it can do many other things and even act as a desktop but it excels in the server field. it does what it needs to do with little hassle but expecting game support for it is a little much. sure allowing the game servers to run on it is fine, but theres no reason for a gamer to switch to it beyond running servers for it. if you like linux and you like games, then you best keep a windows partition to boot into.

mac... i really dont even know what to say... they are not software dealers. they sell hardware at huge markups.

but for now windows is the choice gaming OS
Personally I thought that title belonged to PS3, and XBox and to a lessor extent Nitendo Wii; DS I think is actually more popular but I could be worng). I predict the next real big gaming platform will be the Android Smartphone. Heck now we have playstation "ceritified" Android Smartphones now so I think the day is sooner than we believe (it almost always is)
Post edited May 29, 2011 by jlibster
Posted May 29, 2011
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masterawr: I'm just shocked that the dev team doesn't optimise the game for wine usage, they would easily get more profit by including both linux and mac users .....
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Unacosamedarisa: Why so shocked? They may make more sales if they 'optimise' the game for Wine... but what would that cost them? How much longer would the development time have been? How many more Coders would they have needed to hire? How much more testing would they have needed to do? How much more hardware would they have needed to buy to test the game on?

The Developers decided to release the game for Microsoft Windows. Not XBox, not PS3, not Linux, not Mac... and, not Wine. They have no responsibility to ensure the game is optimised for the Wine environment, it's not a supported environment.
Actually, if I read reports correctly its becoming increasingly clear that the combat system was designed for console controllers. Most PCs don't have those. that would indicate that the long term goal was to product this game for the Xbox at least (whch would explain the DirectX use rather than something more flexible like OpenGL).

My conspiricy theory gut feeling is this: Witcher 1 was known as a PC game, they decided that using a eager PC community would ensure more early sales than starting with a platform where the Witcher was virtually unknown, yet they designed the combat system to enable them to easily port to that new market. Now they have people BEGGING for an Xbox "port". So the audience is now ripe. Furthermore, its easier for the public to trace bugs on PC's than it is on a Console system which is a "black box" so you can't really trace any of the numerous we in the community have found in week 1 and 2. So this made for a well planned way of getting cheaper, more reliable testing/tracing than they could have ever done had it gone to a console first. We PC gamers are also much for tolerent for bugs than console gamers. Heck we often find work arounds. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next 6 months we read about an Xbox version, which wouldn't be a huge jump given they made it for MS Windows. PS3, that may be another story. Personally I whink the Wii controller would be awesome, but its graphics hardware isnot up to the challenge (lite graphics mode?)
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Posted May 29, 2011
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Unacosamedarisa: Why so shocked? They may make more sales if they 'optimise' the game for Wine... but what would that cost them? How much longer would the development time have been? How many more Coders would they have needed to hire? How much more testing would they have needed to do? How much more hardware would they have needed to buy to test the game on?

The Developers decided to release the game for Microsoft Windows. Not XBox, not PS3, not Linux, not Mac... and, not Wine. They have no responsibility to ensure the game is optimised for the Wine environment, it's not a supported environment.
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jlibster: Actually, if I read reports correctly its becoming increasingly clear that the combat system was designed for console controllers. Most PCs don't have those. that would indicate that the long term goal was to product this game for the Xbox at least (whch would explain the DirectX use rather than something more flexible like OpenGL).

My conspiricy theory gut feeling is this: Witcher 1 was known as a PC game, they decided that using a eager PC community would ensure more early sales than starting with a platform where the Witcher was virtually unknown, yet they designed the combat system to enable them to easily port to that new market. Now they have people BEGGING for an Xbox "port". So the audience is now ripe. Furthermore, its easier for the public to trace bugs on PC's than it is on a Console system which is a "black box" so you can't really trace any of the numerous we in the community have found in week 1 and 2. So this made for a well planned way of getting cheaper, more reliable testing/tracing than they could have ever done had it gone to a console first. We PC gamers are also much for tolerent for bugs than console gamers. Heck we often find work arounds. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next 6 months we read about an Xbox version, which wouldn't be a huge jump given they made it for MS Windows. PS3, that may be another story. Personally I whink the Wii controller would be awesome, but its graphics hardware isnot up to the challenge (lite graphics mode?)
I would think they used DirectX because OpenGL seems to be pretty irrelevant these days. The last game I can think of that used OpenGL was in 2006. Even ID Software is going way from OpenGL.

Also, as far as I can tell, using Game Pad in PC games seem to have increased significantly in the last 5 years or more, probably because of console ports but I think that created a whole new market where people like to play with gamepads. I don't own a console at all, but I do like playing games with my gamepad. So I wouldn't say they created the combat with the intention of going to the console, but rather they created the combat for gamepad compatibility because there is a sizable market for it in PC gaming.
Posted May 29, 2011
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jlibster: My data says not Irrelevant. Just not main stream yet. Google seems beinterested in changing that. as is Apple. The indie developers scene has more power than many believe. After all, Sierra had humble beginnings. So did EA. (back when they actually did cool stuff themselves) I worked at a few garage startups and have seen the potential, even a couple now worth over 100 mil.You may want to check out Hothead Games. they used to make top commercial games for LInux before they were bought by EA. EA is poison for so many amazing developer groups. Once EA gets in the picture, Linux development gets killed. Oh, FrozenByte, makes Linux games. I got a whole database of Linux Commercial Game developers if you are interested.
This is silly. You are incapable of honestly debating this.
Posted May 29, 2011
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jlibster: Personally I thought that title belonged to PS3, and XBox and to a lessor extent Nitendo Wii; DS I think is actually more popular but I could be worng). I predict the next real big gaming platform will be the Android Smartphone. Heck now we have playstation "ceritified" Android Smartphones now so I think the day is sooner than we believe (it almost always is)
nope, PC game sales are up around and sometimes above the console versions. as for smart-phones HAHAHAHA... no
Posted May 29, 2011
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jlibster: My data says not Irrelevant. Just not main stream yet. Google seems beinterested in changing that. as is Apple. The indie developers scene has more power than many believe. After all, Sierra had humble beginnings. So did EA. (back when they actually did cool stuff themselves) I worked at a few garage startups and have seen the potential, even a couple now worth over 100 mil.You may want to check out Hothead Games. they used to make top commercial games for LInux before they were bought by EA. EA is poison for so many amazing developer groups. Once EA gets in the picture, Linux development gets killed. Oh, FrozenByte, makes Linux games. I got a whole database of Linux Commercial Game developers if you are interested.
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StingingVelvet: This is silly. You are incapable of honestly debating this.
Data is there for you and everyone to find...
Posted May 29, 2011
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jlibster: Data is there for you and everyone to find...
Your data is irrelevant and not on point. You have consistently debated something we're not really talking about. Potential does not equal reality.
Posted May 29, 2011
I run the game in WINE. It is slow, but playable. Sadly, I can't seem to run the GOG.com patcher, which fails with the error "Cannot open the launcher process." Has anyone gotten this to work? I fear there are some inter-process permissions issues at the root of this that have nothing to do with WINE. Patching should not require any serious amounts of extra sophistication; it's only a matter of replacing old files with new ones. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any standalone patch links.

-hC
Posted May 30, 2011
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hyperChipmunk: I run the game in WINE. It is slow, but playable. Sadly, I can't seem to run the GOG.com patcher, which fails with the error "Cannot open the launcher process." Has anyone gotten this to work? I fear there are some inter-process permissions issues at the root of this that have nothing to do with WINE. Patching should not require any serious amounts of extra sophistication; it's only a matter of replacing old files with new ones. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any standalone patch links.

-hC
Weirdly I got this to work by double clicking the EXE rather than trying to run it via the console (it failed when I tried). No idea why this worked.
Posted May 30, 2011
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jlibster: Many people made a similar statement about the rate of Global Warming..Enjoying the reduced winters and increased Rain, Tornados, floods yet (and possibly earthquakes triggered by increased water mass and currents)? There's more to come. Many reports are saying that global warming is progressing MUCH faster than anyone anticipated and those artic icecaps are fading fast.. BBC also indicated that above any other country in the world the USA is in certifiable levels of Global Warming denial.
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StingingVelvet: Weird analogy. There are also a lot of scientists who say man-made global warming is a myth, so you know.
No there is not!

90% of scientists say it is happening and fools who think that just because a few don't think it is real is proof of some sort of conspiracy should be locked up in a hole never to see day light again!
Posted May 30, 2011
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StingingVelvet: Weird analogy. There are also a lot of scientists who say man-made global warming is a myth, so you know.
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thedaus: No there is not!

90% of scientists say it is happening and fools who think that just because a few don't think it is real is proof of some sort of conspiracy should be locked up in a hole never to see day light again!
and he is refereeing to the 10% which is allot in my books
Posted May 30, 2011
No it's not!

That is around the same amount of people that think that the earth is only a few 1000s of years old, something that is clearly not true.

And may I also point out that no major scientific body (not even the ones that work closely with the oil industry) claim that man made global warming is not real!
Posted May 30, 2011
Please... No more flamewars...
My original question was from last year: if the developers could look if it runs on wine, or actually try it. It might solve some bugs on the way.
But I intentionally created the topic to say if it is able to run on wine, for those that are not willing to shell out $46 to just try it.
So please stick with the topic: wine support, does it run on wine, yes or no, and if so, what do you need to do to get it running

Since the game came out, it seems it runs on at least an nvidia based platform. I haven't got it to run at all. It seems to bail out very early... before showing any windows, not even a splash screen :-(.
(I have a crossfire HD4890 setup, which has now been de-crossfired due to summer. Too hot to have 2 cards next to eachother :-( ).
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