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The Witcher 2Will gays get there way ?(57 posts)(57 posts)
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Posted May 25, 2011
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thekingcasper: but like was already said in DA2 the gay stuff was forced onto u.. isnt that wrong ?

u cant cater to all minorities because alot of them dont like each other lol so if 1 minority cant get something why should the other ? they cancel each other out lol
It wasn't like you were forced into bed with Anders, you could turn him down. It's not that big a deal.
Posted May 25, 2011
lol play the game and ull see it..

i felt awkward aswell joshy thats the kinda gay stuff im against and dont want.. all the gay pride people are saying im the bad guy because they dont want to be forced with norm situations but how come we get it with the gay stuff ?
Posted May 25, 2011
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soldiergeralt: so a guy rapes you in da 2? wouldn't be surprised.
If you think of Mike Laidlaw as a "guy", I suppose so. ;p
Posted May 25, 2011
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thekingcasper: i created this thread..and also said "he is set in stone" lol.

That was disgusting how DA2 gay stuff was forced on normal people.. i agree with u there ..its easy to see why so many people are angry over at bioware..

the only reasonable compromise i could see for the gays would be have a "turn gay on" somewhere in the menu so the others aint forced into it like in DA2

But having homesexual relationships isn't necessarily 'changing the art' I am planning And just because they are a minority doesn't mean they should never be considered.

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there is so many minorities out there.. why should just the gays get special treatment ? theres some cultures that cant particulate in anything involving homosexuality do they miss out just because of this small minority /
Woah, woah woah. Let's not "us vs. them" by saying things like "forced on normal people".

I don't think there needs to be a "turn gay on" (because one, that sounds ridiculous) and two, it doesn't need to be stated, it just is a part of the character. Gay people don't walk around with signs on them saying "I'm gay!", and so game characters shouldn't have these either. In Mass Effect my canon Shepard is a femShep who is a lesbian and is with Liara because she is the closest thing she can get to lady (though the character also thought Ashley was attractive, but was put off by her personality, and in the end became friends with her). I don't need a button to tell me what my character's sexual orientation is though.
Posted May 25, 2011
The difference is, they are not arguing for the exclusion of hetero relationships, only the inclusion of theirs IN ADDITION TO herterosexual relationships. You are asking for exclusion of homosexual relationships, it's different.
Posted May 25, 2011
no im not just saying exclusion..

im saying its wrong to cater to 1 group and not the other.. and
if it is to be done can it not be forced like in DA2
Posted May 25, 2011
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thekingcasper: That was disgusting how DA2 gay stuff was forced on normal people.. i agree with u there ..its easy to see why so many people are angry over at bioware..
Um, did I miss a cutscene in DA2 or something? From what I remember, refraining from clicking the little "heart" response in dialogue with people of the same sex kept you from doing anything gay.

And part of me believes that you took my last post seriously. If that's the case, I fear for the world we live in.
Posted May 25, 2011
First off forgive me I don't see any "delete post" button. Second, yes, you were practically forced into bed with Anders. I don't have the screenshot on hand but there have been a few floating around showing how DA2, most likely through just plain bad design rather than bias, forces the player down certain (sometimes homosexual) dialogue paths.

Edit: apparently I fail at directing replies too.
Post edited May 25, 2011 by rjmill2709
Posted May 25, 2011
Maybe a few people just didnt see it.. but theres countless amounts of debate on the bioware forums where the norm people are saying how awkward they feel because of the gay stuff throughout characters..

are they wrong to voice there personal opinion ? why should they be the ones that are forced with a small minorities lifestyle preference ?..it doesnt seem write to me
Posted May 25, 2011
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thekingcasper: no im not just saying exclusion..

im saying its wrong to cater to 1 group and not the other.. and
if it is to be done can it not be forced like in DA2
Yes you are! By not 'catering' to them, which you define as including same sex relationships, you are excluding them. And see my post above about the perfect solution fallacy. Just because it is not possible to include all minorities, does not make it right to exclude all of them and only cater to the largest group.
Posted May 25, 2011
okay raye lets say some just have to miss out..

But does it really need to basically be thrown in some peoples faces ? some people are very against homosexuality and even hate anything associated with it..should they just have to put up with it ?
Posted May 25, 2011
Yes.
Posted May 25, 2011
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rjmill2709: First off forgive me I don't see any "delete post" button. Second, yes, you were practically forced into bed with Anders. I don't have the screenshot on hand but there have been a few floating around showing how DA2, most likely through just plain bad design rather than bias, forces the player down certain (sometimes homosexual) dialogue paths.

Edit: apparently I fail at directing replies too.
You're not forced into bed with Anders, that is an overstatement of what happens. There are two rounds of dialogue that are important (if I remember correctly). The first time he hits on you after you help him with a quest: you can reply with a heart icon option or a negative response to his flirting. If you go with the second option he never tries to flirt with you again. If you go with the first there is another dialogue tree and I believe at this point you are forced into having sex with him. I don't actually know though, since I have only ever chosen the negative response (with the two characters I played that far into DA2 with); that is my impression of what happens from reading people's comments.
Posted May 25, 2011
yes ?

so why cant we just tell the gays to put up with norm and move on than ? why does it only work 1 way and in the homosexual advantage ?
Posted May 25, 2011
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thekingcasper: are they wrong to voice there personal opinion ? why should they be the ones that are forced with a small minorities lifestyle preference ?..it doesnt seem write to me
By that logic, it was wrong of us heterosexual people to force all these woman-man relationships in games down gay people's throats.

Suddenly your argument makes sense! If we let gay characters into our games, soon we'll find ourselves down a slippery slope where combat will be replaced with a QTE involving cleveland steamers and plunger handles!

Or maybe we could just let people write gay characters into various stories without feeling as though our own sexuality is threatened by their presence.
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