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The Witcher 2What did you do with Sile? *Endgame SPOILERS*(158 posts)(158 posts)
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Posted June 01, 2011
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Raye: If you kill her it could be seen as an act of mercy.
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iamin7ove: I would rather let the dragon burn the city of sins as an act of mercy.
"The knights raped two sorceresses" - just that line alone make me want to kill the whole order of knights
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Jamanticus: Good god man, think of the children! xD
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iamin7ove: I was talking about letting me have to fun of spoiling instead cuz i started it lol
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Not condoning what they did in any way shape or form, but the Sorceresses pretty much are universally hated after word got out of what they were doing.
Posted June 01, 2011
also, it's not exactly fair to judge the entire population of the city (well, temporary gathering, whatever) based on the actions of some of them... I doubt ALL the knights began raping everyone in sight and lopping the hands off apprentice sorceresses. Some did, definitely, and it's horrible, but not all of them were doing those things.
Posted June 01, 2011
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Raye: also, it's not exactly fair to judge the entire population of the city (well, temporary gathering, whatever) based on the actions of some of them... I doubt ALL the knights began raping everyone in sight and lopping the hands off apprentice sorceresses. Some did, definitely, and it's horrible, but not all of them were doing those things.
You do not understand.
Only a few did but some allowed it to happen and some others did not prevent it.
All the same to me
Posted June 01, 2011
You also don't know that some of them didn't try to help, but simply failed. Or were only able to save a few. Unlike you, they are not genetically engineered mutants designed for battle. What were they supposed to do that wouldn't be suicide?
Post edited June 01, 2011 by Raye
Posted June 01, 2011
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Raye: You also don't know that some of them didn't try to help, but simply failed. Or were only able to save a few. Unlike you, they are not genetically engineered mutants designed for battle. What were they supposed to do that wouldn't be suicide?
We're still talking about the order of knights only right?
Those who failed would already be dead anyway so why even bother including them
and those who saved and are saved arent in the city anymore.

"What were they supposed to do that wouldn't be suicide"
by people that " did not try to prevent it" i means exactly those who arent thinknig of helping or die trying.

Also, to say that they couldnt help cuz it would be suicide mean there are more bad guys? then let the mbe counted as casualties in removing the bad guys (by the dragon)
Post edited June 01, 2011 by iamin7ove
Posted June 01, 2011
You were talking about wiping out the entire city and all those within it for the actions of some, not one order of knights. It doesn't matter if there are more bad than good, it's still wiping out innocents. You don't know the people who are good are out of the city. They could just be hiding out in a building, or wounded.
Post edited June 01, 2011 by Raye
Posted June 01, 2011
Seems kind of silly to wipe out a huge chunk of the Northern Kingdoms military, as well as their leadership, just when Nilfgaard is moving to the attack.
Post edited June 01, 2011 by Snarfinator
Posted June 01, 2011
You fails to understand that i saved the dragon partly for those Nilfggardians as well...
Btw, pls do pin me on destroying the city lol
im only letting the dragon live
just that
after which it decides to destroy the city.

Anyway, like i said, if people were saved it just means the bad guys grealty outnumbers them.
Let innocent become casualties.
Let the cowards become sacrifices
Let the asses turns to ashes
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Snarfinator: Seems kind of silly to wipe out a huge chunk of the Northern Kingdoms military, as well as their leadership, just when Nilfgaard is moving to the attack.
Isnt it more silly not to let the dragon alive as SPECIAL gift to the Nilfggard army ?



Sarda: You are all evil monsters who need to die for the good of everybody else.
Black Mage: Wait, even Fighter?
Sarda: Except Fighter.
Fighter: Yay!
Sarda: He's a casualty.
Black Mage: (as Fighter pouts) Yay!
— 8-Bit Theater
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TokenGoodTeammate
Post edited June 01, 2011 by iamin7ove
Posted June 01, 2011
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iamin7ove: You fails to understand that i saved the dragon partly for those Nilfggardians as well...
Btw, pls do pin me on destroying the city lol
im only letting the dragon live
just that
after which it decides to destroy the city.

Anyway, like i said, if people were saved it just means the bad guys grealty outnumbers them.
Let innocent become casualties.
Let the cowards become sacrifices
Let the asses turns to ashes
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Snarfinator: Seems kind of silly to wipe out a huge chunk of the Northern Kingdoms military, as well as their leadership, just when Nilfgaard is moving to the attack.
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iamin7ove: Isnt it more silly not to let the dragon alive as SPECIAL gift to the Nilfggard army ?



Sarda: You are all evil monsters who need to die for the good of everybody else.
Black Mage: Wait, even Fighter?
Sarda: Except Fighter.
Fighter: Yay!
Sarda: He's a casualty.
Black Mage: (as Fighter pouts) Yay!
— 8-Bit Theater
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TokenGoodTeammate
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Who said anything about not letting the dragon live?
Posted June 01, 2011
I am fluent in troperese, that particular trope is not exactly relevant here. For one, the people raping sorceresses were never stated to be part of one particular group, there are no personalities, no team. Some people took the opportunity to act out on their baser instincts, that's all. Some may have felt justified in what they were doing because they saw the sorceresses as inherently deceptive and evil (this doesn't justify their actions, but just trying to get inside their heads here) what we have here is a mob mentality. Not EVERYONE will side with the mob, though, and they should not be judged for others actions. That's all I'm saying. Wiping out EVERYONE, guilty or not, is not justice. You also seem to forget that the VICTIMS are still inside the city. These people can't be committing heinous acts if no victims are around. A Dragon is not a precision weapon, it's not going to pick and choose who dies.

and as mentioned, this has nothing to do with letting the dragon live. I let the dragon live even without being able to break the spell. Its the reasons behind it. I let the dragon live simply because it's a victim, and can still conceivably be saved. not in the hopes that it will unleash fiery death on a rioting mob. Since you brought up TV Tropes, here's another one http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DisproportionateRetribution
Post edited June 01, 2011 by Raye
Posted June 01, 2011
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Raye: I am fluent in troperese, that particular trope is not exactly relevant here. For one, the people raping sorceresses were never stated to be part of one particular group, there are no personalities, no team. Some people took the opportunity to act out on their baser instincts, that's all. Some may have felt justified in what they were doing because they saw the sorceresses as inherently deceptive and evil (this doesn't justify their actions, but just trying to get inside their heads here) what we have here is a mob mentality. Not EVERYONE will side with the mob, though, and they should not be judged for others actions. That's all I'm saying. Wiping out EVERYONE, guilty or not, is not justice. You also seem to forget that the VICTIMS are still inside the city. These people can't be committing heinous acts if no victims are around. A Dragon is not a precision weapon, it's not going to pick and choose who dies.

and as mentioned, this has nothing to do with letting the dragon live. I let the dragon live even without being able to break the spell. Its the reasons behind it. I let the dragon live simply because it's a victim, and can still conceivably be saved. not in the hopes that it will unleash fiery death on a rioting mob.
What are you talknig about Triss clearly stated "the knights raped two sorceresses"

Nothing justifiy raping at all, only killing or burning at stakes is.
So basically they are just a bunch of animals making excuse. And in my experience, animals behind human mask are danger and needs to be eradicated

Back to the dragon.

You forgot something
The dragon doesn't care what you think when sparing it, at least for that momment. After it recover, it will destroy the city. That much is fact.
Try not to ignore that behind your own reason to let the dragon lives.

And pls, read again
I didnt agree on unleashing the dragon on the city thinknig of justice.
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I agree on leting the dragon lives even if it destroy the city, which is believe is better than kiling the dragon so that it doesnt destroy the loose hell of a city .
Get it ?


Btw about ttrope. I was only highlighting the "Casualty" conversation.

The only justice i talked about was killing the whole order of knights that raped or allowed few to rape the two sorceresses mentioned BY Triss. That justice I uphold
Post edited June 01, 2011 by iamin7ove
Posted June 01, 2011
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Raye: I am fluent in troperese, that particular trope is not exactly relevant here. For one, the people raping sorceresses were never stated to be part of one particular group, there are no personalities, no team. Some people took the opportunity to act out on their baser instincts, that's all. Some may have felt justified in what they were doing because they saw the sorceresses as inherently deceptive and evil (this doesn't justify their actions, but just trying to get inside their heads here) what we have here is a mob mentality. Not EVERYONE will side with the mob, though, and they should not be judged for others actions. That's all I'm saying. Wiping out EVERYONE, guilty or not, is not justice. You also seem to forget that the VICTIMS are still inside the city. These people can't be committing heinous acts if no victims are around. A Dragon is not a precision weapon, it's not going to pick and choose who dies.

and as mentioned, this has nothing to do with letting the dragon live. I let the dragon live even without being able to break the spell. Its the reasons behind it. I let the dragon live simply because it's a victim, and can still conceivably be saved. not in the hopes that it will unleash fiery death on a rioting mob.
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iamin7ove: What are you talknig about Triss clearly stated "the knights raped two sorceresses"

Nothing justifiy raping at all, only killing or burning at stakes is.
So basically they are just a bunch of animals making excuse. And in my experience, animals behind human mask are danger and needs to be eradicated

Back to the dragon.

You forgot something
Whatever you think, the fact that dragon will destroy the city after it recovers does not change.
Try not to ignore that behind your own reason to let the dragon lives.

And pls, read again
I didnt agree on unleashing the dragon on the city thinknig of justice.
rather
I agree on leting the dragon lives even if it destroy the city, which is believe is better than kiling the dragon so that it doesnt destroy the loose hell of a city .
Get it ?


Btw about ttrope. I was only highlighting the "Casualty" conversation.

The only justice i talked about was killing the whole order of knights that raped or allowed few to rape the two sorceresses mentioned BY Triss
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Why would the dragon destroy the city? It was being controlled when it attacked the first time. Are you arguing just to argue? Did you write the games story or what comes after the end? quit stating opinion as fact if not.
Post edited June 01, 2011 by Snarfinator
Posted June 01, 2011
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Snarfinator: Why would the dragon destroy the city? It was being controlled when it attacked the first time. Are you arguing just to argue? Did you write the games story or what comes after the end? quit stating opinion as fact if not.
sigh....
OH COME ON
Sile said that before she teleports or well, attempt to, anyway...
shall i quote it for you...*cough
Sile :"for no one leaves here a live...As soon as i disappear, it will turns the city into a flaming tomb"
And under the charm, the dragon was to do Sile's biddings till philippa orders otherwise

btw, i just gone back to the scene to get the quote out just for you. Feeling appreciated?
Post edited June 01, 2011 by iamin7ove
Posted June 01, 2011
Your posts are seeming ever more incoherent, iamin7love.

EDIT: And once the dragon recovers, how many people do you honestly think will be left in the city? The whole place will have been evacuated, that much is clear.
Post edited June 01, 2011 by Jamanticus
Posted June 01, 2011
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Jamanticus: Your posts are seeming ever more incoherent, iamin7love.
I have been cooking
cant concentrate
so can u please explain?
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