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vAddicatedGamer: Regarding the Kayran, do you fill up the bar and get fling off the tentacles?
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IanPolaris: Yes. I can (barely) fill up the bar (sometimes) but still get flung off. No "A" or "space" option appears.

-Polaris

Edit: Could you people please STOP blaming fellow customers and players who might not have as fancy a agming rig as you and deal with the fact the game is not playable when the minimum specs says it should be?
I had the same problem with "space" option never appeared. I found out it was because I clicked too much after filling up the bar. When the bar is filled, if I was patient and just waited, then the "space" option came up.

I'm on a high-en machine though so I don't know if the issue is related or if that your machine registers a few extra clicks a bit late, after the bar is filled.
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IanPolaris: My Card is a Radeon 3200 which is JUST below minimum specs itself (it actually has more memory than required btw), so QTEs should not be a problem either.

I want to comment on the great love and support I am getting from the community. Instead of realizing that the QTEs are dumb and not needed, I get lamblasted. Nice. Yes I should have checked more thoroughly, but the QTE problem IS a Dev problem too and it's not just mine (others have had similiiar experiences and their systems were up to spec).

When you say, "Sorry I was a Jerk but you needed it", you are just being a Grade A Jerk and you don't mean the apology so apology not accepted.

This will be the last time I "grace" this community with my presence I see. You all already know everything and you don't need to bother to help those that actually need help without having god complexes.

Nice.

-Polaris
First, you consistently insist your spect is above minimum - now it turns out your graphic card is not. YOUR PROBLEM.

Next, it seems that many people have some issue with your attitude - NOBODY HERE IS TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM - THE DEVELOPER IS NOT TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM.

People give you their insight - it is your turn to "turn off" you esteem and look for ways to make your game work.

EXPECT TO TURN OFF QTE ? EXPECT A GAME DESIGNED ONLY FOR YOU? EXPECT A PATCH FOR YOUR LIKING?

not likely "honey" ....

In a bad mood, pissed off? well go "plough yourself".

Frustrated, feeling lost of 50 bucks? well, go make a game for yourself, see wat you can do LOL

Game is 18+ by the way
Post edited June 30, 2011 by Freewind
Yes, IanPolaris. Your mistake was being all pissy and rude about this 'request' - there are much nicer ways of explaining your problem, asking the community for help. When it later shows there are inconsistencies with your story, and we point these out to you, you only get even more pissy and rude. Our reaction towards you shouldn't come as a surprise. You're welcome back when you adopt a friendlier attitude towards the people from whom you're requesting help.

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peder75: I had the same problem with "space" option never appeared. I found out it was because I clicked too much after filling up the bar. When the bar is filled, if I was patient and just waited, then the "space" option came up.
And again, here - this 'space' option or whatever, that peder75 mentions here - it does NOT appear if you have properly switched off 'Difficult QTE' in the game menu. Just like the dragon event you talk about at the monestary, IanPolaris. There is no QTE tied to the dragon in the monastery, and there is no need to press any button other than clicking the mouse during the Kayran fight. You have clearly not switched off this option!

Good lord... Either you're really, really thick, meaning you probably don't meet the recommended age of 18+ for playing this game - at least not mentally - or you've just proven yourself a damnable troll, winding us up on purpose, and this whole talk about being bum-hurt by the 'rude reception of this community,' is just something you say in a vain attempt to make us feel bad about talking down to a troll.
Post edited June 30, 2011 by Kindo
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Peetz: Well, I'm pleased that this seems to be resolved - possibly.

As I noted above - I have tested with a substandard card (256MB 8600GT) and although the graphics are crap with everything turned down/off - it DOES play - with no issue on QTE's.

Good Luck.
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IanPolaris: My Card is a Radeon 3200 which is JUST below minimum specs itself (it actually has more memory than required btw), so QTEs should not be a problem either.

I want to comment on the great love and support I am getting from the community. Instead of realizing that the QTEs are dumb and not needed, I get lamblasted. Nice. Yes I should have checked more thoroughly, but the QTE problem IS a Dev problem too and it's not just mine (others have had similiiar experiences and their systems were up to spec).

When you say, "Sorry I was a Jerk but you needed it", you are just being a Grade A Jerk and you don't mean the apology so apology not accepted.

This will be the last time I "grace" this community with my presence I see. You all already know everything and you don't need to bother to help those that actually need help without having god complexes.

Nice.

-Polaris
WUT

A radeon 3200 has about 1/8 of the required power to run this game.
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Peetz: Well, I'm pleased that this seems to be resolved - possibly.

As I noted above - I have tested with a substandard card (256MB 8600GT) and although the graphics are crap with everything turned down/off - it DOES play - with no issue on QTE's.

Good Luck.
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IanPolaris: My Card is a Radeon 3200 which is JUST below minimum specs itself (it actually has more memory than required btw), so QTEs should not be a problem either.

I want to comment on the great love and support I am getting from the community. Instead of realizing that the QTEs are dumb and not needed, I get lamblasted. Nice. Yes I should have checked more thoroughly, but the QTE problem IS a Dev problem too and it's not just mine (others have had similiiar experiences and their systems were up to spec).

When you say, "Sorry I was a Jerk but you needed it", you are just being a Grade A Jerk and you don't mean the apology so apology not accepted.

This will be the last time I "grace" this community with my presence I see. You all already know everything and you don't need to bother to help those that actually need help without having god complexes.

Nice.

-Polaris
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Well, can't say as I'll miss the attitude.

What we have here is a giant PEBCAK error. Everyone else can see that, other than the OP. Life goes on.

And just for clarification, QTE's are part of the game. The people that take issue with them are primarily the ones whose hardware doesn't meet specs. It is only your OPINION that QTE's are "dumb and not needed" - not anyone else's. It is not a DEV problem. To my knowledge, no one with hardware that meets specs has had a QTE be a game-breaker. The issues get resolved, typically by turning down their graphics/resolution or swapping keyboard/mouse.

Are there issues with this game? Of course. But your problem is not one of them.
Post edited June 30, 2011 by Peetz
Actually, I've seen plenty of negative commentary about QTEs--and not just from folks who had difficulty completing them. I've yet to attempt one I couldn't complete, but I'd say they have a fair amount to do with my abandoning TW2 in favor of replaying Oblivion (with a bit of MM8 on the side). ;-) Inclusion of content that's going to be an actual barrier to some and a serious annoyance to others in the critical path of the game, is a dev issue. Writing off potential purchases for content that is high quality and integral to the game is one thing. Writing off potential purchases in favor of marginal content is something I'd say CDP should consider carefully. Note that this only applies to content in the critical path. Having optional content that enhances the game for some while being heartily disliked by others is fine.
Post edited June 30, 2011 by Imryll
Don't worry, Polaris. I have a friend that has played the game with a GeForce 9800 GTX -a graphic card which, according to the info I have, is slightluy above the required one- and has had the same problem, even in Minimun resolution. So, as people are trying to deny, THERE IS a problem with that. Of course, people with even more modest PCs will suffer more for it.

I also agree with Imryll. Adding content not-completeable in some circumstances unless you have very good hardware is just a dirty and unethical trick to force you to upgrade your hardware. Of course, with my modest PC I know for sure I won't be able to enjoy the game's graphics in their best view, but that's one thing. But avoiding people of completing the game by those ways is another thing.
Post edited June 30, 2011 by pegapuros
I expect QTEs in a console game like God of War, not in The Witcher. I can do them easily, but it's embarassing and disappointing that they've included such a cheap gameplay mechanism that should be removed from games like this. They achieve nothing other than to break the immersion they've worked so hard to establish.
Embarrassing admission: My card is a Radeon HD 3650. the minimum spec is 3850. Guess what? I also have a few moments of frustration when trying to complete the Kayran fight. It just does not respond well after the tentacles are all cut and I am doing the running uphill part. Guess what else? I know it is because I have an inferior card. My solution: keep on trying to run up that bridge piece and know there will be several tries to accomplish it. My fault for having this card. My limitations to live within. Do I know I will be running from "the dragon is back!" about 14 times in the prologue for every playthrough? Yep I do know that. Is it a game breaker? not at all. I am on my fifth playthrough as of right now.

I was aware that 3650 was a mid-range -- just barely passable card-- within my budget and wattage allowances. We suffer what we must for the limits we have. It is not the developers who are to blame. Do I wish my card was more muscle-y ? yes, however I know why I have these limitations and the developer cannot help with any of those. We have to accept that developers are not making stand alone games that work with integrated graphics or with any card that has a 1-5 second number. Those cards are inferior for gaming. period. Very soon ( perhaps already) my second digit will be inferior and games will really only run on cards that have an 8 or a 9 as a second digit. Upgrades to systems will have to happen. The only games that are playable on underdeveloped systems are MMORPGS and those are getting more taxing over time too.

My point is there are ways to tell what to expect from the system you have. There are many many sites that list GPU cards in order of gaming bliss. It is our responsibility to be finding those and making our purchases based on knowledge and not on anything else. QTE's are not a problem.

edit was a typo
Post edited June 30, 2011 by cooper
Then you can consider really lucky. As for some people concerns, doesn't matter how hard or how many times they try, they are not able of completing this QTE because of the already mentioned problem. Not sure it depends strictly on the GPU though, perhaps a person with a cutting-edge processor could compensate a medium-low graphic card setting in this issue. Perhaps -or not- is that your case.
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Freewind: well then I am sorry.

and yes, I think it is reasonable to desire an option to turn it off.

I am just too surprised to see how so many people cannot deal with QTE. 5 seconds to click on sth, even 1 second is still long enough.
Yeah i find it weird. I've never missed a QTE in my whole life. I think it's a performance bug though.
Post edited June 30, 2011 by HenriqueVT
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pegapuros: Then you can consider really lucky. As for some people concerns, doesn't matter how hard or how many times they try, they are not able of completing this QTE because of the already mentioned problem. Not sure it depends strictly on the GPU though, perhaps a person with a cutting-edge processor could compensate a medium-low graphic card setting in this issue. Perhaps -or not- is that your case.
Yes sort- of--- I thought the i3 chip would be great to get, but as usual, it turns out that is the lowest of the new gen chips. I really wish I was able to tell these things when I am purchasing instead of several months after a purchase ( smiles ) but I am just limping along hoping for the best like many others. I played the first Witcher with a terrible computer and never got above 10 fps, I am aware of issues that make games miserable to play. I really do feel empathy for those whose systems are advertised as compatible and in fact really are not. In fact, this computer was advertised as compatable and it is only just barely, and I bought it specifically to play this game. But it is still no excuse for my ignorance when I bought the darned thing, and others need to do their homework for purchases too. It's too bad so much of the information can be a little tricky to locate ahead of time. Best wishes to those whose system is cranky.
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cooper: Embarrassing admission: My card is a Radeon HD 3650. the minimum spec is 3850.
See, that would make you a sensible person.

Part of the problem here, though, is that the OP (as well as a lot of PC consumers) are not the least bit tech savvy.
As far as I can tell, a radeon 3200 is integrated graphics, possibly on a laptop, and the OP probably didn't even know you need a video card to play games.

There was a thread on escapistmagazine just yesterday, someone was asking for advice on which of 2 gaming laptops to buy, and the responses were 90% "get the Dell XPS 15, it's a better system."
I pointed out that the 540M is below spec (albeit marginally) if a game has minimum requirement of nVidia 8800 ... whilst everything you read about the laptop, and nVidia's sales pitch on the 540M in general claims "BLEEDING EDGE GRAPHICS! SUPPORTS DIRECTX 11!"
It's nothing short of a scam, as any native DX 11 game would cause the GPU to choke on anything more than minimum settings, even though the laptop is a freakin' sandy bridge core i7.

People just don't know.
And the people who sell computers, as well as GPU manufacturers, are partly to blame.
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cooper: Embarrassing admission: My card is a Radeon HD 3650. the minimum spec is 3850.
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Danceofmasks: See, that would make you a sensible person.

Part of the problem here, though, is that the OP (as well as a lot of PC consumers) are not the least bit tech savvy.
As far as I can tell, a radeon 3200 is integrated graphics, possibly on a laptop, and the OP probably didn't even know you need a video card to play games.

There was a thread on escapistmagazine just yesterday, someone was asking for advice on which of 2 gaming laptops to buy, and the responses were 90% "get the Dell XPS 15, it's a better system."
I pointed out that the 540M is below spec (albeit marginally) if a game has minimum requirement of nVidia 8800 ... whilst everything you read about the laptop, and nVidia's sales pitch on the 540M in general claims "BLEEDING EDGE GRAPHICS! SUPPORTS DIRECTX 11!"
It's nothing short of a scam, as any native DX 11 game would cause the GPU to choke on anything more than minimum settings, even though the laptop is a freakin' sandy bridge core i7.

People just don't know.
And the people who sell computers, as well as GPU manufacturers, are partly to blame.
well, from what I read and understand, the 3200 is a re-vamped 2400 Pro which is what I was limping along with on TWEE and got a stunning 14 fps four years ago. That card was a dedicated card, not integrated and still -- There is no way the thing can handle anything this game offers with any stability - even at a terrible 800x600 resolution and all setting on lowest or off, i would think. It seems to me it just would not be able to ' do the math' fast enough to create a rendered frame.
And then there is the whole GPU in a laptop issue. Why hasnt someone invented an auxillary GPU that works? I keep looking and not finding. Of course now i have highjacked the thread and I suppose I should go be good in the corner somewhere ( smiles).
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cooper: And then there is the whole GPU in a laptop issue. Why hasnt someone invented an auxillary GPU that works? I keep looking and not finding. Of course now i have highjacked the thread and I suppose I should go be good in the corner somewhere ( smiles).
Well, that's not feasible due to data rate limitations.
For instance, USB 2.0 (which pretty much everyone has if they didn't buy a computer this year) has a limit of 480 megabits per second per chip (each chip could control multiple sockets).

Compare that to a PCI express v2.0 (which is probably what your computer has), which can manage up to 64 gigabits per second.

That's pretty much why you see external sound "cards" but not video.