Greetings,

After a couple of playthroughs, I found the research notes on the Hunt for the first time. It wasn't until the playthrough after that, that I found people to talk to about these notes, shedding a lot of light (or just more theories) on the phenomenon. I thought it was awesome that you could get so much interesting lore out of something very well hidden.

But this is about the Song of the Hunt, not the research notes. If you play the Roche path and you find this book, and you also get to a certain point of the story (trigger a specific memory I think), you can bring the book to Dandelion - who was the one originally telling you about it - and he'll give his interpretation of the poem within. What I haven't been able to do, however, is to get this dialogue for Iorveth's path. Once I find the book, I keep advancing the story and I keep checking up on Dandelion after each main quest phase I complete, just in case he's decided to offer me the dialogue choice to ask him about it. I thought it was supposed to trigger after I unlock the memory I get for lifting the curse, but once you're at that point of the story, you can never speak to him again for the remainder of the game.

When you wake up from lifting the curse, the battle for Vergen is near at hand. Most houses are locked, including the inn, and I haven't been able to find Dandelion anywhere outside. Advancing further still, completing the battle scenario, the rest unfurls more or less automatically, and you're ferried off to Loc Muinne and Chapter 3. My suspicion is that Dandelion can interpret the poem after you've lifted the curse, but due to scripting oversights, you're never given the opportunity to talk to him again - the end game begins, and he stays behind in Vergen.

Would this be the case, do you think, or have I simply missed something important (and otherwise obvious)? The whole story you gradually unveil, about the Hunt, is one of the strongest points of the game, and it irks me a little bit not being able to collect all the journal entries when on the Vergen path.

I wasn't able to find a way to get that dialogue on Iorveth's path either, so it's probably by design that you only learn a bit about the Hunt on each playthrough. That's how the whole game is, though--different experiences for the different choices you make. You learn something different, but also have half of the details hidden from you until you complete both playthroughs. The more I think about it, the more it seems intentional and in line with the rest of the game.

Unless someone else has some secret method of getting that dialogue, of course :)

Well, for the other story elements, I agree, and I think it's excellent design not to give you all the details no matter what paths you take. But for the Wild Hunt, it is only this particular dialogue and journal entry that differs between the two main paths of Chapter 2. And even in Vergen, Dandelion tells you to keep an eye out for it, just like he does in the Kaedweni Camp. It would be a neat idea if you couldn't get the full story (all the entries) on the Wild Hunt, but since this is the only one you cannot get if you go to Vergen... I would be much more inclined to call it an oversight in the scripting, somewhere.

If you ask me it is a Chekhov's gun for further DLCs or Witcher 3 :)

DISCLAIMER: Spoilers for Act II (Roche), as well as light spoilers for Act II (Iorveth) will follow. You have been warned!



I'm in the Kaedweni camp during my current playthrough, and thought I'd pay close attention to when you actually unlock this conversation with Dandelion. Once you chase down Serrit after their failed assassination attempt on Henselt, you have a short conversation with him which triggers the flashback involving the 'Ravine of the Hydra.' Once your receive this flashback, Geralt has another part of his memory restored and can then mention this to Dandelion, with the dialogue option 'I now remember pursuing the Wild Hunt.' After which Geralt asks Dandelion about the old poems and songs of the Hunt. This is when you can bring up both the scholar's notes and the Song of the Hunt, if you've read them. The scholar notes he is obviously not interested in discussing - Myron is more keen on discussing these theories - but if you read from the Song of the Hunt instead, he'll proceed to interpret the meaning behind the words and this elusive journal entry is finally added.

Now, if you instead are in Vergen during the second act, the 'Ravine of the Hydra' flashback triggers when you speak to Shilard after crossing the mist in search for Triss; it is also at this point you can find the book among his possessions. However, once you get back to Dandelion and start the conversation 'I now remember pursuing the Wild Hunt.' - it opens up after the flashback - you cannot show neither the scholar's notes nor the Song of the Hunt to him. The dialogue choices are simply not there, and I even tried checking back with him after each step of the main quest, but I could never tell him I had found the book (or the notes, for that matter).

There's one thing I have yet to try, which will have to wait until my next playthrough: If I go through the plot as usual, speak to Shilard, and loot the book, but do not read the book right away. Instead I go back as normal and tell Dandelion about my newly-discovered memory, and then read the book so that the journal entry is added before talking to him again. Hmm... We'll see how it goes, but I won't be able to check it for the next couple of days, since I've yet to finish my current run.

To be continued...

Yes, you find the research notes in the catacombs; the Song of the Hunt is found in Shilard's tent. You'll gain access to it when you return from Vergen.

Well, it didn't work. I tried different methods, but no matter what, Dandelion never offers any new dialogue once I have the book in my possession. He just keeps saying that a book like that *could* exist, etc. So weird.

yeah, I was upset about this too :(

For me he never commented on the book you get from the elven bath house either, which apparently he is supposed to. Maybe a scripting error related to him commenting on shilard before you get there?

It's main reason might be the fact you get to speak with Eilhart's leash sorceress about the wild hunt in Iorveth's chapter 2 so both in Iorveth's chapter 2 and Roche's chapter 2 you get to speak to someone and only one about the wild hunt. You do not have to go to the Henselt's camp if you get Stennis' blood because after you get two of the symbols Philippa gives you the other two, my bet is in the earlier versions this is how it was supposed to be in Roche's side too and you could get the spear head that pierced Glevissig's heart from the relic dealer so in both sides you get to see only one document about the hunt and talk with only one person about it.

Hmm... is he? I noticed last time I played that he does have a comment after you get the Isle of Avallach flashback (after interrogating the captured elf on the prison barge). If you immediately go to the ruins, and find the book there, this comment disappears, so you need to talk to him before you set off. At least, that's what I've theorized.

No, that's my entire point; you can get both dialogues if you went with Roche. Síle tells you to go talk to the pharmacist Myron about the research notes, and that conversation is more or less the same as the one you have with Cynthia in Vergen, if you went with Iorveth. You can then have Dandelion interpret the Song of the Hunt for you, once you trigger the Ravine of the Hydra flashback. It's this conversation with Dandelion that never is unlocked in Vergen, if you followed Iorveth, for some reason. That's why it's weird that this is the only difference I've found - and because Dandelion keeps telling you to search for this book - that I'm assuming this must be a bug or oversight within the game.

You are right then, something must be wrong. I never thought Sile would be interested in the Wild Hunt and never talked to her about this, i only talked to Dethmold and he never directed me to anyone.

I'm trying to get all the journal entries for the Wild Hunt in one playthrough, but for some reason, I'm oddly locked out of certain dialogue.

Last time I played, I was doing a bit of a rush-run, skipping most - if not all - the secondary quests. After interrogating Cieran on the Prison Barge, and getting the flashback of the Isle of Avallach, I randomly stopped by the inn before heading to the Ruined Elven Baths for the Rose of Remembrance. Speaking to Dandelion, I noticed a completely new (for me) dialogue option, basically telling him that I had been to the Isle of Avallach. He spoke briefly about Yennefer or some such (my memory fails me at this point), and this granted a journal entry I had never seen before - it's documented on the wiki, so I'm clearly not the first one to find it.

"Sorceress Yennefer of Vengerberg was abducted by the Wild Hunt, just like witcher Geralt of Rivia. Her fate remains unknown, though she certainly did not join the host of wraith horsemen, unlike her lover who was one of the Hunt's riders for some time. The motivation of the gallopades leader, the King of the Hunt, remains, as always, unknown."

Now, during my current playthrough when I want to try getting all of the entries, I assumed all I had to do was to speak to Dandelion before finding the Rose. It turns out it was not that simple. I have no new dialogue choices when speaking to him, and I've tried a few different experiments - such as running off and getting the rose on my own, without Triss, and then talking to Dandelion, and talking to Cedric first to get the map before talking to him... Nothing.

I am now suspecting that my skipping the initial conversation with Dandelion - at the beginning of Chapter 1, when you unlock the very first entry on the Wild Hunt - might have had something to do with it. If I never spoke to him in the first place, and then came back to see him after getting the flashback about the Isle of Avallach, may have caused an extra dialogue line to appear. The question is, is this intentional on CDPR's part? To me, that would be a very weird design decision - why would I not be able to tell Dandelion about the Isle of Avallach, just because I had spoken to him before, after saving him from the noose? Like I've said before, I'm all for certain parts of the story and the game becoming unavailable to you, depending on choices made, but this particular 'choice' seems very illogical to prevent you from speaking to your closest friend about your returning memories. Perhaps there's a glitch in the dialogue files, preventing the new line from appearing, if you've exhausted all the previous conversations already?

This whole ordeal is getting more and more frustrating - I see no rhyme or reason behind what's happening, and why I can't talk to Dandelion when I have parts of my memory restored. It really feels like there's a fault in the system, rather than a conscious design decision. Sigh... Any ideas?

Wiki Article

PS: I'm going to create a separate topic about this; how to get each entry and such.

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