ThulsaDooom: But in replying, you do care a little! :) Next time you run into an obstacle in a game, don't immediately call it "bad game design." Ask for help, have a little class when you post instead of accusing a studio of not doing their job properly.

Nothing personal but after reading two weeks of post saying "cosole port!" "shit game design" and "too difficult!," it gets to be a bit much. I'm all for a civil discussion of a game's perceived flaws and strengths. Good luck with the battle.

Sirandar888: Fair enough ...... but the Kayron sequence is not nearly as effective as ti could be and there are two specific areas that need work. The tenatcle part was actually quite clever.

1) The middle tentacles should be trapable or the sorceress should say "they are too strong to trap"

2) Once the player reaches the rock hurling potion there is no logical way to proceed. The Kayron is a huge creature and even 1/2 pinned and throwing rocks there are still 2 free tenatcles that could easily kill Geralt. A role playing player has no way to know they are supposed to approach the creature at this point. Approaching from the right causes electrocution and rock damage and futther dissades player from approching the creature.

The player is left with trail and error. This gets tedious when you need to keep repeating the tentacle part just to get to the trial and error.

Really would it hurt so much to have the sorceress say "Geralt I see a way left where you can get close to the creature"

And this brings us to the last and clearest criticism of CDProject and a lot of other devs (except for some of the Bioware ones).

Would it kill you to put in a skip function for battles a player doesn't want to complete. This isn't a full time job or the Olympics ....... this is a recreational game I am paying for. If the skip function can be enabled or disabled only at the very beginning of the game there is nothing hardcores could really complain about. And don't say that a skip function is hard to implement ..... it is not.

marklaur: I think the main problem is the game lacks a truly "Easy Mode"
There are quiet a few people playing this well over 50 who are not as good as younger players, including some with disabilities.

Game developers need to recognise that not everyone is young or has good reflexes.
Easy mode should be easy including for people with disabilities in both eye sight and movement. Or advertise the game are not suitable for beginners at all. Easy should be like Dragon Age II which is a lot easier.

Having said that I am coming up for this fight and will soon find out for myself.

So far I am enjoying the game very much.

Regards

Sirandar888: SPOILER ALERT

The Karyan encounter is suitably epic, very well modelled and quite beautiful to watch

BUT it needs a lot of work to be up to the quality level of the rest of the game.

Here is areas that need improvement and how to remedy them:

1) The first failure of the Kayron part of the game it it guaranteed that Gerault needs to die over 15 times to get past this part of the game. Every single death removes a significant part to the immersion of the game and after 15X there is none left.

2) The initial tentacle bashing/ trapping is quite clever but it is also quite buggy and overly scripted. First, the devs need to introduce 2 claity fixes, the first being an animation showing that the center 2 tentacles immediately break free after being tapped or the sorcereress needs to say "The middle tenatcles are too strong" What happens currently is the player dodges a few tenatcles, hears the sorceresses adivice, casts the trap and it failes becasue the 2 middle ones can't be trapped. Guaranteed 5 dealths dues to lack of clarity.

3) The scripting needs work and there are bugs. The toxic mucus often hits you when it really shouldn't and after I trap each tenatacle my active spell changes to ignii all by itself. After each tentacle I have to remember to switch back to trap. Another 3 or 4 guaranteed deaths

4) The QTE events are just barely tolerable. Another 3 or 4 guaranteed deaths

5) The rock throwing sequence is just plain silly and should be much better done or just omiited with the bridge falling causing death of the Kayran. The Karyan has an infinite supply of rocks. The rocks hit you when they couldn't possibly do so. Another 10-20 deaths trying to figure out what do.


When you add all this up this part of the game is more a puzzle to be solved than a battle, and is 1000x less effective as a game element becasue of this.

The Karyon could have been a highlight of the game, but bad game design and dragging out too long with non-immersive elements just ruins it.

Up to this point the combat required some getting used to but at no point did it really cross the line into tedium.

Right now I am up to the point where I can easily and consistantly beat the tentacle and QTE part of the Kayron BUT only becasue I know the patterns to use. That is a clear sign of bad game design right there. You need to know the pattern to proceed. Geralt is hiding behind some rubble as the Kayron hurls its infinate supply of bolders at him. Casting Shild and making a run for it sometimes gets him to the large fallen stone near the Kayron, but even then the Kayron defies physics and hit him bu hutling a boulder straight though the rubble.

I am not sure what Geralt should do now, and at this point I am deciding whether I even care. If this is how evey boss encounter is designed I then game over ...... not fun not done .... simple as that.

The Witcher 1 avoided the whole boss thing all togetjher much to its credit.

Sirandar888: 1) The tentacles were clever and not that hard to figure out, but the middle ones being non-trappble is confusing and makes the player think the games is bugged. None of the tentacles should be trappable on a creature that size and strength, so it makes no sense that only the middle ones can`t be trapped. Does those glowing bulges make them automagically trappable? The fact that when trying to trap the middle ones, the traps are completely ignored doesn`t help. The the devs added a cutscene with the middle tentacles being trapped for a second and then breaking free, that would be acceptable also, but having then ignore the trap like its not there seems like a bug or that the player needs to do something else to weaken the creature first. The easiest solution would to be to have the Sorceress say `The middle ones are too strong``