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Posted June 21, 2011
Okies, my two cents...

What I would really like to see in a 'Fantasy' genre RPG is something along the lines of what I consider to be to ultimate, all-time best RPG ever. I am referring, of course, to Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

No game in the history of gaming has anywhere near the RPG elements; a huge map full of cities, towns, villages, suburbs, country-sides, beaches, rivers, mountains, road and rail systems, plenty of 'walk-in' buildings and shops, you name it.

Instead of 'Leveling-up', in GTA: SA you honed your various skills - weapons, driving/riding, flying, bicycling, gang-member loyalty, charisma with chicks, 'luck' (as in when gambling), strength, endurance, etc., simply by practicing.

You had to eat and what you ate and how much you ate had a direct effect on your over-all fitness and body shape. Lol, I remember having to shed some pounds/kilos to be in the right shape to win a triathlon, Also had to gain or lose weight, build or lose muscles in order to be able to date certain women. Can't get much more RPG than that!

The myriad of clothes and hair-style choices also had an impact on your 'Repect' with gang-members as well as your desirability with women.

Whether pumping iron or honing martial-arts skills at a gym, playing pool for money, gambling on three or four different games at a casino, or placing a bet on a horse-race, they all added to the 'reality experience' of being in an alternate world.

Having said all this, I've hardly even scratched the surface of the content in GTA: SA as anyone who has played it will surely attest.

The point of all this is: as good as many of the 'Fantasy' RPGs are, they could be miles better if they 'stole a page', so to speak, from devs such as Rock* Games.

Just imagine it...

Cheers,
Wolfy
Posted June 21, 2011
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WhiteWolfy: Okies, my two cents...

What I would really like to see in a 'Fantasy' genre RPG is something along the lines of what I consider to be to ultimate, all-time best RPG ever. I am referring, of course, to Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
You lost me right there.
Posted June 21, 2011
@SS7 - Not sure what you mean but I'm guessing that you've never heard of GTA: SA, right?

If not, mate, please do yourself a favor and buy it. Probably only around a couple of bucks at Wal-mart. You will not be disappointed, guaranteed!

Cheers,
Wolfy
Posted June 21, 2011
I've watched other people play GTA games...and you may have a point there regarding big open world cities in that game. Something about trying to control a vehicle with those little sticks (or worse yet, WASD on a PC) just doesnt seem appealing for a game thats very centered around car chases. People I watch play the GTA games constantly curse/swear while playing and don't really appear to be having fun. They get mad, shut the 360 off/storm away in a huff, but keep going back to it...
Posted June 21, 2011
I remember (almost distinctly) reading an interview maybe a year or so a go which gave the impression, if not explicitly stated that you could travel all over the game world at will and complete areas in whatever order you chose. With the least critical tone possible, what happened between then with that concept and the release version? Not a complaint about the game, but that is a huge change in direction, no?
Posted June 21, 2011
I do hope for DLC. I of course wanted more locations but I'll always want more from a good game, so I can't really complain about it :)

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WhiteWolfy: What I would really like to see in a 'Fantasy' genre RPG is something along the lines of what I consider to be to ultimate, all-time best RPG ever. I am referring, of course, to Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
Yes! San Andreas was an amazing, amazing game. When people hear GTA all they think about is driving around and shooting people mindlessly though :/ so they can't imagine that SA is a great RPG.
Posted June 22, 2011
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thepartyisover: I remember (almost distinctly) reading an interview maybe a year or so a go which gave the impression, if not explicitly stated that you could travel all over the game world at will and complete areas in whatever order you chose. With the least critical tone possible, what happened between then with that concept and the release version? Not a complaint about the game, but that is a huge change in direction, no?
My guess is reality (in relation to the production budget and time) set in. Debugging gets progressively nightmarish as a freeplay open world gets larger. Bethesda games even with huge community patches still aren't perfect in this regard. I should note that I am on board with W2 being a great game...just have a few questions.

I personally hope the 360 release brings CDP 20 boatloads of $$. We've seen what these guys can accomplish on a relative shoestring. W3 might actually have a AAA budget to work with. Some other "AAA" devs really need to be exposed for the $ they waste lately producing "B" quality titles.
Posted June 22, 2011
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WhiteWolfy: Okies, my two cents...

What I would really like to see in a 'Fantasy' genre RPG is something along the lines of what I consider to be to ultimate, all-time best RPG ever. I am referring, of course, to Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

No game in the history of gaming has anywhere near the RPG elements; a huge map full of cities, towns, villages, suburbs, country-sides, beaches, rivers, mountains, road and rail systems, plenty of 'walk-in' buildings and shops, you name it.

Instead of 'Leveling-up', in GTA: SA you honed your various skills - weapons, driving/riding, flying, bicycling, gang-member loyalty, charisma with chicks, 'luck' (as in when gambling), strength, endurance, etc., simply by practicing.

You had to eat and what you ate and how much you ate had a direct effect on your over-all fitness and body shape. Lol, I remember having to shed some pounds/kilos to be in the right shape to win a triathlon, Also had to gain or lose weight, build or lose muscles in order to be able to date certain women. Can't get much more RPG than that!

The myriad of clothes and hair-style choices also had an impact on your 'Repect' with gang-members as well as your desirability with women.

Whether pumping iron or honing martial-arts skills at a gym, playing pool for money, gambling on three or four different games at a casino, or placing a bet on a horse-race, they all added to the 'reality experience' of being in an alternate world.

Having said all this, I've hardly even scratched the surface of the content in GTA: SA as anyone who has played it will surely attest.

The point of all this is: as good as many of the 'Fantasy' RPGs are, they could be miles better if they 'stole a page', so to speak, from devs such as Rock* Games.

Just imagine it...

Cheers,
Wolfy
OR how about Saints Row 2 it also had some RPG esque character builder traits consider Insurance Fraud in the Factories district for 50% longer sprint, eventually unlimited sprint if you did all 6 diversions. So it is possible if the intention is there to design and develop a game that is RPG and open world with out having to resort to the dreaded Behtesda model of RPG (heavy sarcasm as i think FONV is the best RPG in the last 5 years). By comparison TWEE and more so TW2 are "on rails" experiences which i for one am not to interested in supporting lazy programming anymore, or buying a "game" that is really just a interactive movie.

Asai
Posted June 22, 2011
Perhaps not that much sarcasm Asai, since FONV was made by Obsidian and not Bethesda itself.
Posted June 22, 2011
Asai is getting tired trolling every thread with his hate. Seriously dude, if you dislike the game so much why do you even post here?
Posted June 25, 2011
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cbarbagallo: Asai is getting tired trolling every thread with his hate. Seriously dude, if you dislike the game so much why do you even post here?
I have 50 dollars of entertainment value i am owed i anticipated this from the game unfortunately this was not the case, still, 50 bucks is 50 bucks. Since this is, sadly, more entertaining than the game i will be here until my 50 dollars is had.

Simple give me a refund of my GOG money and i will go away. The combat is shit, the alchemy was gimped, the inventory system is STILL BROKEN, the UI is consolized and not PC friendly. What the fuck is up with dice, fights, and arm wrestling where one has to reinitiate a conversation between every contest? The over use of QTEs which completely negate any potion usage but i guess since alchemy is gimped (no secondary extracts nor the bonuses they provided) i guess potions are pointless.

I suppose i should be thankful i got some boobs and some bush so it is not all bad i suppose.

Asai
Posted June 25, 2011
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cbarbagallo: Asai is getting tired trolling every thread with his hate. Seriously dude, if you dislike the game so much why do you even post here?
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Asai: I have 50 dollars of entertainment value i am owed i anticipated this from the game unfortunately this was not the case, still, 50 bucks is 50 bucks. Since this is, sadly, more entertaining than the game i will be here until my 50 dollars is had.

Simple give me a refund of my GOG money and i will go away. The combat is shit, the alchemy was gimped, the inventory system is STILL BROKEN, the UI is consolized and not PC friendly. What the fuck is up with dice, fights, and arm wrestling where one has to reinitiate a conversation between every contest? The over use of QTEs which completely negate any potion usage but i guess since alchemy is gimped (no secondary extracts nor the bonuses they provided) i guess potions are pointless.

I suppose i should be thankful i got some boobs and some bush so it is not all bad i suppose.

Asai
I watched a movie and after finishing it i realized it's the worst movie i ever watched FOR ME.. I wanted to demand a FULL refund if possible. I had a meal and it tasted awful FOR ME but surprisingly other said it was good. I wanted to demand a FULL refund if possible. I sent my car for a wash and i noticed it was not 100% clean and i wanted to NOT pay them.
Posted June 25, 2011
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Asai: I have 50 dollars of entertainment value i am owed i anticipated this from the game unfortunately this was not the case, still, 50 bucks is 50 bucks. Since this is, sadly, more entertaining than the game i will be here until my 50 dollars is had.

Simple give me a refund of my GOG money and i will go away. The combat is shit, the alchemy was gimped, the inventory system is STILL BROKEN, the UI is consolized and not PC friendly. What the fuck is up with dice, fights, and arm wrestling where one has to reinitiate a conversation between every contest? The over use of QTEs which completely negate any potion usage but i guess since alchemy is gimped (no secondary extracts nor the bonuses they provided) i guess potions are pointless.

I suppose i should be thankful i got some boobs and some bush so it is not all bad i suppose.

Asai
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archaven: I watched a movie and after finishing it i realized it's the worst movie i ever watched FOR ME.. I wanted to demand a FULL refund if possible. I had a meal and it tasted awful FOR ME but surprisingly other said it was good. I wanted to demand a FULL refund if possible. I sent my car for a wash and i noticed it was not 100% clean and i wanted to NOT pay them.
Your point is? If i had the experiences you had i would definately tell everybody that the movie i just sat through was the worst ever and do not waste your money to see it. If i had a meal and it sucked i would not go back to the cafe, i would also tell folks that what ever was wrong with the experience, service, atmosphere, or the food was bad and not to waste your money at that cafe. If i had my car detailed and it was not done to my satisfaction i would pitch a bitch right there in the bussiness and demand that i got the job to MY satisfaction or i would just pay them thier money and again make sure i told any one who would listen to go elsewhare for a car wash. You would devalue my opinion because it is different from yours, yours is less discerning than mine, you are easier to please, you are less demanding, and still you would claim the higher moral ground? Sounds to me like you are a hypocrite with a side of narcissism TO GO.

Since you called me out, AGAIN i will ask WHAT IS YOUR POINT? Do you have one or just covering up for the one at the top of your skull? Care to try again?

Asai
Post edited June 25, 2011 by Asai
Posted June 25, 2011
The point is that YOU don't like the game .Doesn't mean the game is bad. In fact. objectively taste aside, it is very well crafted game.

Let it go. You need to calm down.. Seriously dude, to get this riled about a game is not healthy
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