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The Witcher 2*Spoilers* Length. Voices. The end. and....sex?!(24 posts)(24 posts)
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Posted May 28, 2011
So, I just finished my first play through, took me a while due to time restraints. It was an incredible game to say the least, but I'm curious what everyone thinks of the end. personally, I thought it felt a bit rushed, and why didn't I get to talk to Triss at all? I chose to lead Philippa from the dungeon in Chapter 3, so I don't know what the other option of taking the guy instead has in store yet, buy anyway, what are your thoughts of the end?

Secondly, was anyone else disappointed that there was no option to pursue sex with Philippa? Now, I don't claim any attraction to computer images, BUT she was arguably the best looking girl in the game (within the opinions of my group of friends at least), and sure, she may have gravitated to women but I'm sure our great lady wooing hero could have changed that!

Also as a tack on to the second question, what do you think of the lack of sexual experiences? I don't care about the scenes themselves, but I found it amusing getting into the pants of 20 or so women in TW1.


Third, Opinions on the new voice actors? I thought the new actors were good overall, but I really, REALLY dislike the voice of Triss, I didn't like the way she sounded at ALL, the first Triss was much better, but that's just my opinion, whats yours?


Lastly, any thoughts on the length of the game? It felt a bit short to me first time around, but thankfully very high replay value and DLC in the future should make up for that, and hoping to see more of Dandelion (best side character ever?) in said DLC.
Posted May 28, 2011
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twistedmelon5: Third, Opinions on the new voice actors? I thought the new actors were good overall, but I really, REALLY dislike the voice of Triss, I didn't like the way she sounded at ALL, the first Triss was much better, but that's just my opinion, whats yours?
I like the new Triss VA much better, actually. She sounded too sure of herself in the first game, and I don't think it suited her character much. She's basically the third wheel, in love with someone who loves someone else, and I think the new VA has a layer of vulnerability that better fits that history.
Posted May 28, 2011
psst....Phillippa is a lesbian....of course you can't plough her.

Yeah, I would like to plough more, but there were people saying "oh Geralt just plough every woman he sees...so I don't like this blah blah" in Witcher 1 so CDPR took notice and reduced, maybe they reduced bit too much.

I liked the length, I didn't want to grind for hours, which is boring. Thank god that there's very little grinding so I can get on with the story.
Post edited May 28, 2011 by Lexino
Posted May 28, 2011
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Lexino: psst....Phillippa is a lesbian....of course you can't plough her.

Yeah, I would like to plough more, but there were people saying "oh Geralt just plough every woman he sees...so I don't like this blah blah" in Witcher 1 so CDPR took notice and reduced, maybe they reduced bit too much.

I liked the length, I didn't want to grind for hours, which is boring. Thank god that there's very little grinding so I can get on with the story.
Well you know what they say, "all a lesbian needs is a good long dick", I jk, but it would have been cool.
Posted May 28, 2011
ok first off, my full reveiw can be read here :)
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/the_witcher_2/finished_1st_game_playthrough_my_complete_reveiw

Now I rushed the end (as I felt rushed) so I missed the whole Phillippa part (maybe this play through) so cant comment on her.

Best looking girl to me was Ves (if only she didnt have the Tats).

YES, I missed the sex. I dont care about the virtual sex either and I was more then happy with the cards from first game. I mean Ves and Trish and a few whores looked nice and all and I give CDR full credit on their ability to draw female butts :)

But yeah, I miss the casual/meaningless/none paid for sex that was in first game (and stories).

There was a elf maiden in Flotsam I really wanted to plough but that simply wasnt a option.

I wanted to flirt with Shile as well. Not cause she was attractive but because she was such a opponent of Triss's.

There was lots of meaningless sex that could have been but wasnt in game 2 and thats a shame.

I still laugh at the mental image of Geralt and Abigal in that cave before the showdown of the first game outside Visima. LOL ultimate worst timeing for it, but thats part of geralts appeal.

So yeah, I think CDR should pay more attention to the "extras" in general.
Not just the sex, I felt I didnt get to talk with Triss, Zoltan, and Dandelion enough this game
I missed having conversations with meaningless NPCs

IE: There was no NPC as memorable in TW2 as Granny from TW1. Or the old lady farmer (with no name) in the opening chapter of first game.

Seems in TW1 there was alot more idle chat.
In TW2 NPCs say the same line over and over from word go and there no build up to the line like was in TW1.

As for game length, as this a spoiler thread and marked as one!

I didnt do the side bulliton board quests in chapters 2 and 3 and I gotta say Chapter 3 felt so rushed!

Save kid (cant even go back to explore)
Got meeting
Kill Shile
Kill Dragon
come back to ruins and meet, talk, kill/let go Lethos

just bang bang bang!

I could see LEthos escaping with Triss (or whoever) in Chapter 3 and you chaseing him to yet anouther location in Chapter 4 for the closing stuff.

Dragon (IMO) should have been the boss of that chapter (which I guess he was as Lethos is the prolog but still, seemed to all blend togather!

Im also wondering how they handle Part 3?

Do you go after the magic group? (as more then Philippa and Shile involved) and then Nilfgard?

Or do you go after the Wild Hunt?

I gotta say I see BOTH those issues as their own complete game and settleing in 1 chapter would seem rather cheap and not done correctly.

Maybe there will be 4 games?
Maybe Nilfgard and/or mages will be a full expansion?

I just see the Wild Hunt being a complete game and deserves a complete game or more.
Posted May 28, 2011
Obviously the ending is hinting there might be an expansion or a sequel, which obviously will take place in Nilfgaardian Empire, where we would look for Yennefer. For the sorceresses, I don't know, I don't think we will ever see Sile again, but for Phillippa? I think we will see her again, but for the lodge/conclave? forget it, the monarchs now think they are behind the assassinations, no way they're going to let the mages to have some power.

For the Wild Hunt, I feel that story is almost finished, that story was always about Geralt's amnesia. Now only one question remains, how come Geralt is alive despite exchanging his life for Yennefer's
Posted May 28, 2011
I was a bit disappointed for a lack of romance option with SIle/Saskia.
In the end it did make sense tho.
Characters such as Philippa would not plough some witcher, not in a million years.
(Also, how can you say Philippa was the best looking - that was obviously Ves :P )
Posted May 28, 2011
I think saying the story was "rushed" at the end is the wrong term. A better term is "incomplete". There's so many loose ends at the end it's not even funny. Or shall i say, you never get to see the impact of most of your choices. Sure there's aparantly 16 endings, but it's more like 16 beginnings, because nothing actually ends! It's basically like an extended prologue.

In a way it's a good thing because it means CDPR can very easily add DLCs and expansions , ]which i hope take into account who i saved and who i killed and i will gladly gobble these DLCs up to experience the results of my decisions....

As for the sex and romances, i don't know about you guys, but i got laid plenty of times, most of them whores though. Isn't there like 5 whores to pick from in "whore-camp" near the end of chap 2 ?
Post edited May 28, 2011 by silvertemplar
Posted May 28, 2011
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Kalfear: ok first off, my full reveiw can be read here :)
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/the_witcher_2/finished_1st_game_playthrough_my_complete_reveiw

Now I rushed the end (as I felt rushed) so I missed the whole Phillippa part (maybe this play through) so cant comment on her.

Best looking girl to me was Ves (if only she didnt have the Tats).

YES, I missed the sex. I dont care about the virtual sex either and I was more then happy with the cards from first game. I mean Ves and Trish and a few whores looked nice and all and I give CDR full credit on their ability to draw female butts :)

But yeah, I miss the casual/meaningless/none paid for sex that was in first game (and stories).

There was a elf maiden in Flotsam I really wanted to plough but that simply wasnt a option.

I wanted to flirt with Shile as well. Not cause she was attractive but because she was such a opponent of Triss's.

There was lots of meaningless sex that could have been but wasnt in game 2 and thats a shame.

I still laugh at the mental image of Geralt and Abigal in that cave before the showdown of the first game outside Visima. LOL ultimate worst timeing for it, but thats part of geralts appeal.

So yeah, I think CDR should pay more attention to the "extras" in general.
Not just the sex, I felt I didnt get to talk with Triss, Zoltan, and Dandelion enough this game
I missed having conversations with meaningless NPCs

IE: There was no NPC as memorable in TW2 as Granny from TW1. Or the old lady farmer (with no name) in the opening chapter of first game.

Seems in TW1 there was alot more idle chat.
In TW2 NPCs say the same line over and over from word go and there no build up to the line like was in TW1.

As for game length, as this a spoiler thread and marked as one!

I didnt do the side bulliton board quests in chapters 2 and 3 and I gotta say Chapter 3 felt so rushed!

Save kid (cant even go back to explore)
Got meeting
Kill Shile
Kill Dragon
come back to ruins and meet, talk, kill/let go Lethos

just bang bang bang!

I could see LEthos escaping with Triss (or whoever) in Chapter 3 and you chaseing him to yet anouther location in Chapter 4 for the closing stuff.

Dragon (IMO) should have been the boss of that chapter (which I guess he was as Lethos is the prolog but still, seemed to all blend togather!

Im also wondering how they handle Part 3?

Do you go after the magic group? (as more then Philippa and Shile involved) and then Nilfgard?

Or do you go after the Wild Hunt?

I gotta say I see BOTH those issues as their own complete game and settleing in 1 chapter would seem rather cheap and not done correctly.

Maybe there will be 4 games?
Maybe Nilfgard and/or mages will be a full expansion?

I just see the Wild Hunt being a complete game and deserves a complete game or more.
Wow, I read your review (very good btw) and this comment, a lot of my thoughts on the game are extremely similar and or spot on with yours.

As to the bulletin quests, I did all of them....well every quest possible on my path actually, still felt quite short.

Also I think it would be great if CDPR released a full expansion for TW2 (similar to DA:O I guess, although I didn't play the expansion), I'd hate to have to wait so long for the Wild Hunt story, and I'd hate it even more if TW3 were possibly ruined by a dual story thing.

I too miss all the random convo's from TW1, and didn't feel I spent enough time with Zoltan/Dandelion, or even the other characters for that matter, but I was giddy over the mention of the noonwraith poem from Dandelion in Chapter 2! Also, I missed other characters from TW1, like what ever happened to the other witchers that departed from Kaer Morhen? You see them for the briefest of moments at the beginning of TW2. What about Shani? I was disappointed that some didn't return and others were dropped from the picture.

Hopefully TW3 will get a good balance of flirting/sex.

And GOOD LORD THAT GRANNY, I had almost forgotten about her, I wanted nothing more than to kill that woman! Oh the RAGE!
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silvertemplar: I think saying the story was "rushed" at the end is the wrong term. A better term is "incomplete". There's so many loose ends at the end it's not even funny. Or shall i say, you never get to see the impact of most of your choices. Sure there's aparantly 16 endings, but it's more like 16 beginnings, because nothing actually ends! It's basically like an extended prologue.

In a way it's a good thing because it means CDPR can very easily add DLCs and expansions , [b]which i hope take into account who i saved and who i killed and i will gladly gobble these DLCs up to experience the results of my decisions....
Yes, incomplete is a better term now that I think of it, it felt....empty
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Xayoz: I was a bit disappointed for a lack of romance option with SIle/Saskia.
In the end it did make sense tho.
Characters such as Philippa would not plough some witcher, not in a million years.
(Also, how can you say Philippa was the best looking - that was obviously Ves :P )
*Shrugs* I just thought she looked better (also, those bloody eye sockets *drools*, does that make me weird?), as did most of my friends, that's not to say Ves doesn't look good though.
Post edited May 28, 2011 by twistedmelon5
Posted May 28, 2011
I agree with the OP - hands down, Philippa is the hottest woman in Witcher 2. I don't think she was 100% lesbian, since in the books it's mentioned she had a fling with a Redanian spymaster (who is absent in the games) as well as she flirted with Geralt on many occasions. Even Dandelion comments that she and Geralt likely slept together in the past. Seems like the developers wanted to pursue a different patch than the writer with this character.

VA are better in 2 than in 1. I love the voices of Iorveth, Saskia and Sile. Zoltan, Geralt, Roche's are great too. Philippa's is too old-ish and nasal (even Sapkowski described her voice in the books - more soft, cat-like and charming). I can't stand Triss's voice but seems like it is a pattern to gave her a wrong voice actress - in English, German and Polish Version I have played her voice always rubbed me the wrong way.

I agree with the lack of sex. I don't like ploughing random women or prostitutes and I got bored of Triss, so I can only choose between Ves and... succubus? Nah, thank you very much. I would rather plough the vision of Sabrina (she was hot!) than some alien-looking creature.
Posted May 28, 2011
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twistedmelon5: So, I just finished my first play through, took me a while due to time restraints. It was an incredible game to say the least, but I'm curious what everyone thinks of the end. personally, I thought it felt a bit rushed, and why didn't I get to talk to Triss at all? I chose to lead Philippa from the dungeon in Chapter 3, so I don't know what the other option of taking the guy instead has in store yet, buy anyway, what are your thoughts of the end?
See, I'm fairly certain at the time you chose to lead Philippa out, you were also given the option to go save Triss. I chose Triss and Philippa basically wigged out on me [she was blinded with a spoon, so it was pretty understandable] and claimed Saska would remained charmed and blah, blah, blah. Basically it's just one of the many choices you gotta make.

As far as whether or not it felt rushed... not to me. I can see how others can feel that way when I consider [1] how much shorter Act 3 is in comparison to Act 2 and [2] how small Loc Muine is.
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twistedmelon5: ... sure, she may have gravitated to women but I'm sure our great lady wooing hero could have changed that!
LOL, it's both funny and sad how many straight men can think that. I got it on with Triss, an elven chick who was grateful to me for saving her life and a succubus. All fairly hilarious. The elven bathhouse scene with Triss was also pretty endearing. I tried to woo Ves in Flotsam but she shot me down, LOL. As far as Philippa's concerned... after walking in on her spanking her assistant, I was pretty sure that I'd love to see her and Geralt get it on but that it wasn't gonna happen. Plus, there's a dwarf in the inn with whom if you speak about her with he'll call her manipulative and tell you about a time she'd wooed a king just to get close to him even though "everyone knows she doesn't like cock," LOL.
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twistedmelon5: Third, Opinions on the new voice actors? I thought the new actors were good overall, but I really, REALLY dislike the voice of Triss, I didn't like the way she sounded at ALL, the first Triss was much better, but that's just my opinion, whats yours?
I loved pretty much all the VAs, especially Triss. Geralt had this Batman/Wolverine "gravelly voice" thing going on that often made me laugh though. Sometimes he'd speak way too low, and there was an NPC who only spoke once and his voice was so low I have absolutely no idea what he added to the convo he was in.
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twistedmelon5: Lastly, any thoughts on the length of the game? It felt a bit short to me first time around, but thankfully very high replay value and DLC in the future should make up for that, and hoping to see more of Dandelion (best side character ever?) in said DLC.
Well, like I said above, the length of the third act seemed really short. You're right about the replay value and DLC though. I'm working on only my 2nd run right now, and hoping DLC is soon on its way.
Posted May 28, 2011
I REALLY disliked Iorveth's and Letho's new VAs. I just felt the ones in the trailers were SO much better. Geralt's is the same though, that's all I care about. I do like that they gave him more freedom to express himself to.
Also, did anyone else think that when Geralt walked in on Phillipa and her apprentice that we were going to able to have a romp with them? XD
Post edited May 28, 2011 by ZidaneLeonhart
Posted May 28, 2011
Concerning the question what would happen to Triss if you chose to save Philippa: Nothing. She is saved by Letho. Honestly, I think saving Philippa is the best choice, since you can also save Saskia and Iorveth. Roche seems to be fine and Triss as a lead girl cannot die ;-)

Also, did anyone else think that when Geralt walked in on Phillipa and her apprentice that we were going to able to have a romp with them? XD
Lol, I thought so. I read all the books and unlike some others, I don't think it would be highly unlikely. It is so rare we get threesomes in games, not to mention Witcher as the more "liberal" one should proud itself to be a precursor of some sorts :P

The game feels rushed, yeah, and it was disappointing. Compare Act II (especially on Iorveth's path) with Act III even combined with epilogue and you get what I mean. I hope DLC's and add-ons will make up for that, though, if they choose to kill most of canon characters I will be furious ;-)
Post edited May 28, 2011 by Germanicanus
Posted May 28, 2011
I think there will be DLCs and expansion to fill the gap. Though I'm not too keen about DLCs and expansion because i prefer whole complete game, but that's the trend of modern gaming industry.
Posted May 28, 2011
Does anyone notice that everyone in the game talks really slow for native speakers?

Not a fan of Triss and Dandy's VA's. They feel un-expressive. You can hardly feel the emotion or urgency required at certain situations. King Foltest stood out in terms of VA.

As to the ending/Chapter 3, I can't quite put my finger on it but it does feel rushed. Mainly with how the main plot was revealed I guess.
Post edited May 28, 2011 by vAddicatedGamer
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