Posted July 23, 2011
prehto81
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Paul_cz
Freedom Fighter
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From Czech Republic
Posted July 23, 2011
They bitch too much (DOORS! DOORS! DOORS! WHAT ARE WE GONNA DOOOOOOO), but the verdict is "go buy it", so it's all good :-).
NeoGutsman
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Posted July 23, 2011
I had to skip around their discussion because there are a lot of spoilers. I haven't finished the game yet :\
Having said that, I do think that what I did read brought up good points, especially about how the game thrusts players into the game with nary a proper tutorial. It's not like it has to be a long, casual introduction like some modern Zelda game, just... more explanatory. That and the menu system. I'm still baffled by the alchemy system in my few short hours of playing the game.
For now I'll just say that this article was great, and I'm glad RPS revisited it in whole and ended up giving the game a thumbs up. Despite my challenges with the game, I do think it was money well-spent and very entertaining so far.
Having said that, I do think that what I did read brought up good points, especially about how the game thrusts players into the game with nary a proper tutorial. It's not like it has to be a long, casual introduction like some modern Zelda game, just... more explanatory. That and the menu system. I'm still baffled by the alchemy system in my few short hours of playing the game.
For now I'll just say that this article was great, and I'm glad RPS revisited it in whole and ended up giving the game a thumbs up. Despite my challenges with the game, I do think it was money well-spent and very entertaining so far.
DelighfulMcCoy
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Posted July 23, 2011
Liked it, I very much agree with most of what they said. :)
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Posted July 23, 2011
Thats so true, for half the game i thought Nilfgaard was a person...
Even though that may be attributed to my derpiness, they really should've explained the set-up better.
Even though that may be attributed to my derpiness, they really should've explained the set-up better.
DelighfulMcCoy
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Posted July 23, 2011
The RED's made the game as if every player had at least played The Witcher and if at all possible, read one or two books. I did both and had enough insight, but I can also imagine how you'd be struggling, if you haven't. Yep, definitely lack of basic info about the world. The combat tutorial in the first game in Khaer Morhen was perfect, they should have made it similarly (and kept the PAUSE).
227
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Posted July 23, 2011
Kraken fight? Okay, that bothers me. Once, fine, but it's used three times. That's like me writing a Final Fantasy 7 review and talking about how great that "Clod" fellow was or bemoaning how I hated fighting "Orcspawn" in DA:O. Awful.
Sure, random people won't know what a "Kayran" is and it's basically a kraken, but still. Something about that shouted, "We don't know what we're talking about!" After all, it just takes one line of explanation and they could call it by the right name for the rest of the article without confusing anyone. I had completely forgotten the first game and never read a Witcher book in my life when I first played, and everything still made sense. It's not revealed like, "Hi! I'm from Nilfgaard where we wear black and invade places," but rather, subtly through things like indirect dialogue with Foltest. Maybe it helped that I was playing with subtitles enabled.
Sure, random people won't know what a "Kayran" is and it's basically a kraken, but still. Something about that shouted, "We don't know what we're talking about!" After all, it just takes one line of explanation and they could call it by the right name for the rest of the article without confusing anyone. I had completely forgotten the first game and never read a Witcher book in my life when I first played, and everything still made sense. It's not revealed like, "Hi! I'm from Nilfgaard where we wear black and invade places," but rather, subtly through things like indirect dialogue with Foltest. Maybe it helped that I was playing with subtitles enabled.
Post edited July 23, 2011 by 227
goopit
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From Philippines
Posted July 23, 2011
I agree with the part about having to read the books or look outside the game for info to see the big picture.CDPR can fix it with Dandelion. Dandelion can tell anything about everything maybe they can do something like while Geralt is resting at the inn Dandelion tells stories about all the stories we missed or some peasants can talk about stuff while having drinks.
Siven80
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Posted July 23, 2011
Its a good read, and i agree with many of their points.
RageGT
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From Brazil
Posted July 23, 2011
LOL
I had a great time reading it! Thanks for the link! And yeah, this is the game we'll be playing and talking about for a long time, IMHO!
I had a great time reading it! Thanks for the link! And yeah, this is the game we'll be playing and talking about for a long time, IMHO!
Post edited July 23, 2011 by RageGT
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Kitad
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Posted July 23, 2011
Good read, don't agree on all points though. I think that the political story of the game is really well told. Maybe not perfectly told and a bit hard to get into, but better than any other I've experienced yet.
Sure, you are a bit unsure about Redania, but they make a great job at characterizing Kaedwen, Nilfgaard, Temeria and Aedirn situations and allow you to get into the conflict. That's unprecedented for me
"Unfortunately, the game [Witcher 1] was far from perfect and had a number of glaring issues. It was too difficult and too hardcore, and what’s worse, it was clearly designed with only PC in mind. It had soon become clear that if the game were to be brought to the wider audience, some things had to be changed."
I really hate it when people say this. Witcher 1 was not more hardcore or harder. Just because it was point and click, does not make the game more hardcore. Perhaps bitter fanboys want to make us believe that, but the truth is that the combat in the witcher 1 was really simple and specially easy.
So, when people say that the combat has been consolised, I say "sure, considering that action-oriented games tend to be more on consoles", but when people equate that to "simplified, dumbed down and casualized", then I have to disagree completely. The combat may be more similar to something you expect on consoles, but its actually MORE hardcore.
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"While the extent of Dragon Age 2's influence on Sapkowski’s work isn’t clear, most players will find the gameworld eerily familiar"
Wat?
Sure, you are a bit unsure about Redania, but they make a great job at characterizing Kaedwen, Nilfgaard, Temeria and Aedirn situations and allow you to get into the conflict. That's unprecedented for me
gregski: Well, to make this a little bittersweet, how about a review that runs over TW2 with a steamroller - and I'm not talking about Destructoid's one, this is more serious:
http://rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=233
ugh, some thing really bothers me http://rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=233
"Unfortunately, the game [Witcher 1] was far from perfect and had a number of glaring issues. It was too difficult and too hardcore, and what’s worse, it was clearly designed with only PC in mind. It had soon become clear that if the game were to be brought to the wider audience, some things had to be changed."
I really hate it when people say this. Witcher 1 was not more hardcore or harder. Just because it was point and click, does not make the game more hardcore. Perhaps bitter fanboys want to make us believe that, but the truth is that the combat in the witcher 1 was really simple and specially easy.
So, when people say that the combat has been consolised, I say "sure, considering that action-oriented games tend to be more on consoles", but when people equate that to "simplified, dumbed down and casualized", then I have to disagree completely. The combat may be more similar to something you expect on consoles, but its actually MORE hardcore.
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"While the extent of Dragon Age 2's influence on Sapkowski’s work isn’t clear, most players will find the gameworld eerily familiar"
Wat?
Post edited July 23, 2011 by Kitad
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Posted July 23, 2011
Garrison72
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Posted July 23, 2011
I agree with Kitad. TW2 is more hardcore, simply because the game is harder and the in-depth story elements and choices haven't been abandoned. Once you figure out alchemy in TW1, even the hard setting is a breeze. I regret the loss of secondary effects in alchemy but the tactical usage is still there. also, bombs and traps are now much more useful in TW2.
And the DA2 comment...wtf are they smoking??
And the DA2 comment...wtf are they smoking??
Post edited July 23, 2011 by scampywiak
Kitad
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From Chile
Posted July 23, 2011
Jesus that was the worst review I've ever read. It was seriously confusing and obnoxious.
And not because I disagree with the point he is trying to make, its the writing and fact that the reviewer uses sarcasm for entire sections so you are confused as to each new paragraph the writer is serious or just being sarcastic again.
Was the DA2 quote another sarcasm, or just a typo? Gee.
On top of that, using sarcasm to scoff at every aspect of the game comes off as if the reviewer hates everything about it. But the worst part is that just by the end he says "so this game is a labor of love and worth playing even with its flaws"... Huh? Really? Are we sure he is not being sarcastic again?
Someone fire whoever wrote that waste of minutes.
And not because I disagree with the point he is trying to make, its the writing and fact that the reviewer uses sarcasm for entire sections so you are confused as to each new paragraph the writer is serious or just being sarcastic again.
Was the DA2 quote another sarcasm, or just a typo? Gee.
On top of that, using sarcasm to scoff at every aspect of the game comes off as if the reviewer hates everything about it. But the worst part is that just by the end he says "so this game is a labor of love and worth playing even with its flaws"... Huh? Really? Are we sure he is not being sarcastic again?
Someone fire whoever wrote that waste of minutes.