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Posted May 16, 2011
I'd like to note that not all pirates download games illegally because they don't want to pay for them. A lot of people in economically undeveloped countries can't buy the game even if they wanted to simply because it costs so much for them.

As an example I'll give my country - Bulgaria. Here only a small minority buys games and only richer people can afford to buy games on a regular basis. New games on release cost around 1/4 of the minimal wage in the country. I'll leave it at that.
How does that make it right? Theft is theft. It is a GAME, not a necessity like food.
Posted May 16, 2011
I'd like to note that not all pirates download games illegally because they don't want to pay for them. A lot of people in economically undeveloped countries can't buy the game even if they wanted to simply because it costs so much for them.

As an example I'll give my country - Bulgaria. Here only a small minority buys games and only richer people can afford to buy games on a regular basis. New games on release cost around 1/4 of the minimal wage in the country. I'll leave it at that.
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cbarbagallo: How does that make it right? Theft is theft. It is a GAME, not a necessity like food.
Does not, but what are you going to do? stop playing?
Posted May 16, 2011
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Owah: See HAWX2 from Ubisoft, not pirated (afaik) and it blows balls anyways. Its really lame.
Exactly, IMO. Focus on making a good game and people will buy it.
Posted May 16, 2011
I'd like to note that not all pirates download games illegally because they don't want to pay for them. A lot of people in economically undeveloped countries can't buy the game even if they wanted to simply because it costs so much for them.

As an example I'll give my country - Bulgaria. Here only a small minority buys games and only richer people can afford to buy games on a regular basis. New games on release cost around 1/4 of the minimal wage in the country. I'll leave it at that.
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cbarbagallo: How does that make it right? Theft is theft. It is a GAME, not a necessity like food.
I never said it was right, I only noted facts.
Posted May 16, 2011
Yes. It is a GAME. If you had to steal to feed your family, that is one thing. But stealing a game is patheteic.
Posted May 16, 2011
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Muzak: The same for me. I can only spent 400$ a year, so I have to be really picky. Can't spent all on games. Last month needed a HDD, here, they are really expensive, that means -100 in my annual quota

BTW. When I said I can't, doesn't mean I don't have the money, the goverment won't give the money...so I really can't
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MADPADDY: The goody goodys dont care about you having no money mate they see the world in black and white,good and evil and well through no fault of ya own your on the evil side mate lol.
I'm a husband and a father, we are living on one income living in an apt in a small 2 bedroom apt in metro denver. I get to buy about 3 full priced games a year, and then about 5 ~$10 games a year (I wait for Steam sales for the bulk of my games) I also get to upgrade my computer every 3 years spending about $300. This is all I can afford. There are plenty of games that I don't get to play till a long time after they have already been released and they go on a Steam sale for ~$10.

If people can afford to keep their computers updated enough to play the latest games, then they can afford to buy games at the very least when they are on sale.

It is a matter of black and white, either you have the money to buy and play the game, or you wait till you have the money to buy the game at a price that you can afford and play it then. That is the right thing to do.
Posted May 16, 2011
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Wazhai: I'd like to note that not all pirates download games illegally because they don't want to pay for them. A lot of people in economically undeveloped countries can't buy the game even if they wanted to simply because it costs so much for them.

As an example I'll give my country - Bulgaria. Here only a small minority buys games and only richer people can afford to buy games on a regular basis. New games on release cost around 1/4 of the minimal wage in the country. I'll leave it at that.
And yet they still manage to buy a 1000+ € pc?
Posted May 16, 2011
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VoodooEconomist: Well, we can opnly hope that those sailing under Jolly Roger upon gazing into TW2's awesome face will realise the error of their wicked ways and turn to the light by buying this awe inspiring digital work of art.
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archaven: nothing but a fool's hope that pirates will actually buy the game? true pirates wouldn't spend a single penny no matter how much they like a game/software/music. just consoling words. of course i agree there are existing fans who are downloading when they want to play it earlier.. but majority of them don't buy anything and simply flame at you when you ask them suport the developers.
Yeah, but that's about the only thing I can do about it ;-) No sense getting too wound up or angry. Pirates will pirate, and CDP knows this, hence their DRM policy.

But I do know people who seldom buy a game but have made TW and TW2 notable exceptions!

Oh, and I agree - useless thread is useless.
Post edited May 16, 2011 by VoodooEconomist
Posted May 16, 2011
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cbarbagallo: Yes. It is a GAME. If you had to steal to feed your family, that is one thing. But stealing a game is patheteic.
Yeh because a man who probably has a shit life and gets paid peanuts doesnt deserve to have a bit of fun in his life does he,im not saying its right or wrong but he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Posted May 16, 2011
Just had to see if it really is out. Sadly it is. But then again, there are about 1000 people leeching and 50 people who got the illegal copy. Their download speed is probably so slow, most of them might not even have the game by tomorrow. Or by midnight. And I agree, they won't have the same feeling as we had when making our purchase.
Post edited May 16, 2011 by Senteria
Posted May 16, 2011
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Achromatis: Exactly, IMO. Focus on making a good game and people will buy it.
Yep. And didn't I read somewhere here that the preorders alone have surpassed expectations? Let's wait til the rest of the month and look at the sales then. I bet the sales on this game will by far exceed the pirated copies (which, as we know, aren't neccessarily lost sales, too).
Posted May 16, 2011
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eRe4s3r: Your government decides when and how much of your money you can use?
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Muzak: Yes. 400$ a year for internet transactions. If you travel, the amount you get depends on destination and time you'll be out of the country.

BTW. I'm learning german =)
My condolences, even I wouldn't want to learn German... hehe ;)

But that is... pretty.. oppressive

I'd wager theres a huge black market in your country that evades this trade sanction with equally huge profits.
Posted May 16, 2011
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Muzak: Yes. 400$ a year for internet transactions. If you travel, the amount you get depends on destination and time you'll be out of the country.

BTW. I'm learning german =)
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eRe4s3r: My condolences, even I wouldn't want to learn German... hehe ;)

But that is... pretty.. oppressive

I'd wager theres a huge black market in your country that evades this trade sanction with equally huge profits.
Yeah, no matter what I try to do, I have to break the law to get my games...lol
Posted May 16, 2011
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Wazhai: I'd like to note that not all pirates download games illegally because they don't want to pay for them. A lot of people in economically undeveloped countries can't buy the game even if they wanted to simply because it costs so much for them.

As an example I'll give my country - Bulgaria. Here only a small minority buys games and only richer people can afford to buy games on a regular basis. New games on release cost around 1/4 of the minimal wage in the country. I'll leave it at that.
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Verwandlung: And yet they still manage to buy a 1000+ € pc?
Buying a PC every 3-4 years is one thing, but games don't usually last that long. A PC that can handle modern games costs no more than 500-600 euros.

But another problem is the mentality of the vast majority of people. The filthy rich guys who buy the newest PCs all the time pirate too. Although the economical situation will improve in the future and games will become more affordable, piracy is so embedded in people's minds that they will not consider buying games even then. It's up to the government to do something about it. But that's not very likely given the confessions of ministers on TV, saying they downloaded movies from torrents.
Posted May 16, 2011
I think you guys never get it ... CDPR was hoping folks will not pirate the game as they put hard effort and love to their games. It's depressing for them to see it on torrents and illegal download sites.

So what CDPR is thinking now.. PC gaming is really a hopeless business since it has been DOMIINATED by pirates.

This WILL be the last PC exclusive game for ya pirates..

Conclusion? True PC fans got OWNED.

NOW better concentrate on CONSOLE exclusive now. Probably getting pirated BUT at least it will sell Millions and not sissies.
Post edited May 16, 2011 by archaven
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