Posted July 07, 2011
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This thread's title made me think I was clicking to see two Witchers fight with potion-enhanced night vision.
*is disappointed
*is disappointed
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I don't recall any clear indication in the books of a history between Yennefer and Triss that went beyond close friendship. That doesn't mean that it must be ruled out, but it certainly wasn't a major plot point. There is, however, one very clear suggestion of a brief relationship between Triss and Philippa.
Yennefer will still get her claws out when she finds out, for the second time, about Triss and Geralt.
Yennefer will still get her claws out when she finds out, for the second time, about Triss and Geralt.
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goopit: this makes me think if Triss actually intended to subjugate Geralt with the rose instead of giving back his memory.
Haha yeah it's definitely a possibility. I like how (based on what I've seen so far in the series) Triss is either the least manipulative sorceress around or is just really, really good at it. But yeah, it's going to be hilarious to see how the whole thing shakes out.
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Posted July 08, 2011
I think Yenefer can give her a run for her money lol. In Triss case her fling with Geralt is a typical example of best friends jealousy, she kept hearing of Geralt from Yenefer, she was jealous of her best friends relationship with this untameable male who risks his life for a living, kills for a living and (eros and thanatos) apparently f***s like an animal (though there is an episode where Yenefer has to give him some "magic viagra" in order to make him able to "perform" - too many witcher's elixirs took their toll on our hero). So, as frequently happens in real life among women, Triss had to have a taste of Geralt, she had to spoil her bestie's romance, she had to find out what was so special about this wandering gypsy, this medieval equivalent of a smelly construction worker, after all sorceresses are intellectuals, they're educated ladies, and educated ladies often dream of being ravaged by a potent wild "animal", especially since most sorcerers are egocentric narcisists absorbed in their work or plainly gay.
About Yenefer: she's arrogant, stubborn and promiscous, a typical sorceress, like Geralt she seeks casual sex out of lonelyness but she won't admit it to herself, she prolly does it to gain favors too. She's kinky (in a short story Geralt ponders how she loved to have sex with him on a stuffed elephant she keeps in her laboratory where she also keeps an enormous specimen of a Troll's penis, in a vase, not stuffed lol) and like all sorcerers she's very old, several centuries, she probably seen many of her former lovers die of old age. So what is left for sorceresses is sex, heterosexual, homosexual etc. Meeting Geralt was something entirely unexpected, and he felt in love with her the moment he put his eyes on her. Personally I find Yenefer extremely annoying, why Geralt keeps going back to her is beyond my grasp. Triss is a much nicer person and she's bisexual, which is something most of us guys find erotic lol. Didn't know of her fling with Yenefer but I know her and Philippa used to be lovers.
About Yenefer: she's arrogant, stubborn and promiscous, a typical sorceress, like Geralt she seeks casual sex out of lonelyness but she won't admit it to herself, she prolly does it to gain favors too. She's kinky (in a short story Geralt ponders how she loved to have sex with him on a stuffed elephant she keeps in her laboratory where she also keeps an enormous specimen of a Troll's penis, in a vase, not stuffed lol) and like all sorcerers she's very old, several centuries, she probably seen many of her former lovers die of old age. So what is left for sorceresses is sex, heterosexual, homosexual etc. Meeting Geralt was something entirely unexpected, and he felt in love with her the moment he put his eyes on her. Personally I find Yenefer extremely annoying, why Geralt keeps going back to her is beyond my grasp. Triss is a much nicer person and she's bisexual, which is something most of us guys find erotic lol. Didn't know of her fling with Yenefer but I know her and Philippa used to be lovers.
Post edited July 08, 2011 by yayodeanno
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I might have mixed up Yennefer and Philippa. But in any Case, Triss and Yennefer are very close and very good friends.
Why does Geralt keep coming back for Yennefer? Maybe you've heard of it: love. Those two might not be able to make it work because of their different views and habits, but they also can't live without one another, they truly suffer when they are apart.
As for Triss, we should be fair to her. She wasn't portrayed very true to her book self in the first game, to me she appeared a lot more scheming in the game. In the books she's this hopeless do gooder who wants to help everyone ("don't let Merigold get to the witcher's secrets, she might want to use them to heal everyone").
And she's simply been in love with Geralt from the moment she first met him and still is. She would do anything for him. Even sacrifice her own happyness if it means, Geralt can be happy with Yennefer. Give the tragic redhead some credit, please. She's not that sly person you make her out to be.
TW2 girly Triss doesn't do her justice either, though. But I like her line in the Elven bath: "I owe you that, I owe HER that." That one line redeems game Triss for me. :)
Also, if you're living long enough and you're living outside the usual rules of society anyway, you have no need for lables like heteroxesual, homosexual, bisexual. Labels ar for cans, not people. ;)
Why does Geralt keep coming back for Yennefer? Maybe you've heard of it: love. Those two might not be able to make it work because of their different views and habits, but they also can't live without one another, they truly suffer when they are apart.
As for Triss, we should be fair to her. She wasn't portrayed very true to her book self in the first game, to me she appeared a lot more scheming in the game. In the books she's this hopeless do gooder who wants to help everyone ("don't let Merigold get to the witcher's secrets, she might want to use them to heal everyone").
And she's simply been in love with Geralt from the moment she first met him and still is. She would do anything for him. Even sacrifice her own happyness if it means, Geralt can be happy with Yennefer. Give the tragic redhead some credit, please. She's not that sly person you make her out to be.
TW2 girly Triss doesn't do her justice either, though. But I like her line in the Elven bath: "I owe you that, I owe HER that." That one line redeems game Triss for me. :)
Also, if you're living long enough and you're living outside the usual rules of society anyway, you have no need for lables like heteroxesual, homosexual, bisexual. Labels ar for cans, not people. ;)
Post edited July 08, 2011 by AudreyWinter
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Wow, instead of commenting on my little essay there... something completely unrelated and irrelevant - what is that even supposed to mean?
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Posted July 08, 2011
I was a bit touched when Triss bared her soul to Geralt, told him she'd do anything, go anywhere for him.
" I can only say this once..." A good line with good delivery.
" I can only say this once..." A good line with good delivery.
Post edited July 08, 2011 by scampywiak
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AudreyWinter: I might have mixed up Yennefer and Philippa. But in any Case, Triss and Yennefer are very close and very good friends.
Why does Geralt keep coming back for Yennefer? Maybe you've heard of it: love. Those two might not be able to make it work because of their different views and habits, but they also can't live without one another, they truly suffer when they are apart.
As for Triss, we should be fair to her. She wasn't portrayed very true to her book self in the first game, to me she appeared a lot more scheming in the game. In the books she's this hopeless do gooder who wants to help everyone ("don't let Merigold get to the witcher's secrets, she might want to use them to heal everyone").
And she's simply been in love with Geralt from the moment she first met him and still is. She would do anything for him. Even sacrifice her own happyness if it means, Geralt can be happy with Yennefer. Give the tragic redhead some credit, please. She's not that sly person you make her out to be.
TW2 girly Triss doesn't do her justice either, though. But I like her line in the Elven bath: "I owe you that, I owe HER that." That one line redeems game Triss for me. :)
Also, if you're living long enough and you're living outside the usual rules of society anyway, you have no need for lables like heteroxesual, homosexual, bisexual. Labels ar for cans, not people. ;)
Haven't read enough to make an informed post. But from a few that i have read (I think it was Blood of Elves) she didn't really fall in love with she first met him. She started out by being curious about what Yen's guy was like, and during one particular Yen-Geralt fight, she sort of used spell to seduce Geralt. After the sex, she felt something new in her, and for a while she just couldn't put her finger on the new sensation, and that is probably when she started having feelings for Geralt, so to speak. Why does Geralt keep coming back for Yennefer? Maybe you've heard of it: love. Those two might not be able to make it work because of their different views and habits, but they also can't live without one another, they truly suffer when they are apart.
As for Triss, we should be fair to her. She wasn't portrayed very true to her book self in the first game, to me she appeared a lot more scheming in the game. In the books she's this hopeless do gooder who wants to help everyone ("don't let Merigold get to the witcher's secrets, she might want to use them to heal everyone").
And she's simply been in love with Geralt from the moment she first met him and still is. She would do anything for him. Even sacrifice her own happyness if it means, Geralt can be happy with Yennefer. Give the tragic redhead some credit, please. She's not that sly person you make her out to be.
TW2 girly Triss doesn't do her justice either, though. But I like her line in the Elven bath: "I owe you that, I owe HER that." That one line redeems game Triss for me. :)
Also, if you're living long enough and you're living outside the usual rules of society anyway, you have no need for lables like heteroxesual, homosexual, bisexual. Labels ar for cans, not people. ;)
So far from what I've read, she seems to be more frank and more do-no-harm person than Yennefer. Yennefer was more of a schemer and a bitch (for lack of a better word). As to sacrificing her own happiness for Yen, I think she is still a bit undecided, as in she finds it hard to let go, at least while she was in Kaer Mohen with Geralt she seems to try to be intimate with him.
But I haven't read that much about Triss really :(
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Posted July 08, 2011
When Letho described Yennefer while and and his two companions were caring for her I thought "wow sounds like an entitled tantrum throwing bitch that goes nuts if she doesn't get her way WTF is Geralt doing with her?" lol. I'd pick Triss too!
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AudreyWinter: As for Triss, we should be fair to her. She wasn't portrayed very true to her book self in the first game, to me she appeared a lot more scheming in the game. In the books she's this hopeless do gooder who wants to help everyone ("don't let Merigold get to the witcher's secrets, she might want to use them to heal everyone").
I know what you mean, but I actually think she was consistent with who she was in the books. Eskel tells Geralt at the beginning of TW1 that she's basically a do-gooder whose idealism gets her into trouble sometimes. She schemes in the hope of helping the most people possible, and it doesn't always work. She's also tougher than she is for most of the book series, but that's how she is at the very end of the saga--as in, how she is in the last 50 pages or so when she's finally forced to make some tough choices. I thought it was good of CDPR to continue her character from that point. EDIT: I think the Anne Rice comment was just a cheeky observation about vampire literature that dealt with the same problems with extended lifespans that you describe. Rice published Interview With the Vampire in 1976, I think. That was pretty early for popular literature (in the US) to take on such issues.
Post edited July 08, 2011 by kyogen
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I believe most of the sorceress and sorcers view sex as a tool.
As for the future, I got the impression that Triss especially during the "I owe you that, I owe HER that." speech is preparing, to be not chosen by Geralt. She gives the impression she knows Geralt will move back to Yennifer. I hope the choice is in the player's hand since I'm not keen on Yennifer. I know she is a powerful sorceress but something about their relationship seems off. But I have only read the English books.
As for the future, I got the impression that Triss especially during the "I owe you that, I owe HER that." speech is preparing, to be not chosen by Geralt. She gives the impression she knows Geralt will move back to Yennifer. I hope the choice is in the player's hand since I'm not keen on Yennifer. I know she is a powerful sorceress but something about their relationship seems off. But I have only read the English books.
Post edited July 08, 2011 by omeara
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kyogen: She's also tougher than she is for most of the book series, but that's how she is at the very end of the saga--as in, how she is in the last 50 pages or so when she's finally forced to make some tough choices. I thought it was good of CDPR to continue her character from that point.
I'd love to meet the Triss at the end of the saga, then. But if she is so tough and her own person at the end, it means that TW2 Triss is very much a canon failure, her only purpose to make the toes of young boys rise. She's such a girly girl, it kinda hurts. Is she supposed to substitute for Triss AND the of some people quite beloved but now lost Shani? Because her soft attitude and girlish laughter would fit Shani much better, not a mature sorceress. I'm not even gonna comment on the ridiculous gasping this time *cringe*. I'd like a more together, less sex object, strong personality Triss better.
But I'm still helplessly in love with the Yennefer bitch, because she is MY bitch and she knows that. So there.
There was one thing I liked and I thought it might evolve into a runniung gag in the game, but it was only at the beginning of the game: Geralt acting quite jealous over Triss whenever some guy looked at her or when she told him about the Blue Stripes guys or when he didn't see her for a while. I prefer to look at it as comic relief instead of stupid double standard. ;)