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Battle of Brenna modeled after Battle Of Grunwald of 15 century when joint forces won battle against Teutonic Orden

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grunwald
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BiggusD1: Battle of Brenna modeled after Battle Of Grunwald of 15 century when joint forces won battle against Teutonic Orden

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grunwald
Hardly, to be honest.

There are far more parallels to for example Battle of Legnica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Legnica) of 1241. But there the "Nordlings" were decisively beaten, and it had dire consequences to Poland.
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Bfler: According to the last book the story describes a fictive world during the time of WW2.
(Examples: Brenna = Stalingrad, Nilfgaard is Germany -> armies described as tank divisions and elves are shown as SS soldiers, There are also things like pogroms and mass expulsion mentioned)
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Isambard: IIRC Sapkowski himself was against comparing Nilfgaard to Germany. In fact, German-sounding names are to be found in the North. Yennefer for example is from a city named Vengerberg.

I think that the Empire is more modeled after the Roman Empire. This of course does not relate to names or technology, but for example Nilfgaard is far more advanced than all the Northerners and is conquest-bound, autocratic as it is politically unstable. And it methods are just evergreen political ways of dealing with things.
It is too obvious that Nilfgaard should be Germany.
As example the elves I mentioned. Which other soldiers come to your mind with such a description: cruel elite soldiers with double flash on the collar patch?

Furthermore the Nilfgaard army in Brenna is called (translated) "Heeresgruppe". This is a term for a part of the German army.
Post edited May 31, 2011 by Bfler
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cloud8521: he is also not really a traditional witcher right? he has extra procedures done that not many have had done right?
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Jamanticus: Yep, he survived the Trial of Grasses (the one where they give you mutagens) exceptionally well, which made them decide to use even more extreme mutagens on him. That's what turned his hair white. Also a good part of the reason why he's only been completely thrashed in single combat by one person, ever.

(spoiler)

That person was the sorcerer Vilgefortz. Not only an obscenely powerful and power-hungry mage, but a master of swordsmanship as well. Still, Geralt ended up killing him too in the end xP
wiki described him near exactly like a young Voldemort haha
Young, incredibly talented, handsome, nice voice
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Corylea: In TW1, Geralt says that no witcher has ever died of old age. Since they live such dangerous lives, usually some monster gets them, sometime, but their life span IS greatly extended.

In the journal entry for Vesemir, it says that he's so old that he may even pre-date Kaer Morhen ... which means that he's very old indeed.

When Geralt says that he's "too old" for something or the other, I don't get the sense that he's talking about physical aging; it's more a weariness of the spirit. He's still in fabulous shape, physically, except for the scars. But after 100 years of seeing people treat each other badly, after 100 years of being an outcast, after 100 years of killing monster after monster, his zest for living is less than it was when he was young.
Im 20 and i says "Too old for this a lot too" which indicates i have done those things alot in the past...Maybe it was just a figure of speech ?
Post edited May 31, 2011 by iamin7ove
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iamin7ove: what, witchs are also immortal?
Where did those ugly old hag of a witch gone to !
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cjrgreen: Sorceresses have access to health and beauty treatments that the rest of us don't even have the right to dream of :) And they're competitive about it.
Yes this is true, Have you seen "Death Becomes Her" with Goldie Hawn & Meryl Streep!! this documentary provides evidence of Sorceress secrets!!
I see Nilfgaard as the Soviet Union rather than Germany.
A massive twisetd empire out to dominate the world with both force and diplomacy.
Comparing every evil empire to Nazi Germany seems like a creepy obsession. Can't wait till someone will come up with a list of "amazing" similarities between Nilfgaard and the Galactic Empire. Why not?

I fail to see how come Brenna can be Witcher's equivalent of the Battle of Stalingrad. First of all, there wasn't any siege and no armies fought for the control of city. Secondly, the battle lasted a day - not almost a year. It certainly wasn't the bloodiest one, and most important, no Encirclement (the military tactics) was used by Northern Kingdoms to defeat Nilgaardian army.

Isambard has a lot of good points with whom I can agree in contrary to what Bfler wants us to believe.
Don't forget that Sapkowski is a pole, so i guess that Battle of Brenna would be based on some battle from polish history.
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teh_beard: Well now, Geralt with all his wisdom, voice of tiered cynic and "I`m too old for this" stuff might give you impression that he saw Yaruga Landing and Conjunction of Spheres but it is not so.

He is certainly old for a man who does so much of buttbickin` but he was born circa 1210. Ergo he was 58 at the the time of Rivian Pogrom, and 63 at the time events of Witcher 2 take place.

Triss at this time must be 38 years old, and Yennifer - 99.

Ahem.. Last book of Witcher series was translated to Russian in 2001, so you see fans have a lot of time to compile more or less believable chronology, one I now referring to.
So is Geralt around 100 or 63?

Where did you get his time of being born?

BTW does anyone have a chronological order of the short stories?
If Geralt accuses Cedric of beeing drunk and that he 's going to wait until he's sober, Cedric answers that with the long life of a Witcher he maybe see that day.
Seems Witchers live a much longer life than the common folk.
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Paul_cz: So is Geralt around 100 or 63?

Where did you get his time of being born?

BTW does anyone have a chronological order of the short stories?
Nowhere in saga or short stories is said how old Geralt is exactly, probably only Sapkowski knows that for sure. Speculationa are betwean 50-100.

And the first short story ever in Witchers universum was "A way Your're not coming back from"(or something like that "Droga, z której się nie wraca" in original). Its about how Geralt parents met if i remember well.
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Paul_cz: So is Geralt around 100 or 63?

Where did you get his time of being born?

BTW does anyone have a chronological order of the short stories?
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Endrevius: Nowhere in saga or short stories is said how old Geralt is exactly, probably only Sapkowski knows that for sure. Speculationa are betwean 50-100.

And the first short story ever in Witchers universum was "A way Your're not coming back from"(or something like that "Droga, z której się nie wraca" in original). Its about how Geralt parents met if i remember well.
Yeah I read that short story yesterday (for a third time, I am re-reading the saga), I know that is the first one, Visenna meeting Korin and destroying Koschey. But I thought more about the Geralt's short stories.

Anyway, in the first The Witcher story, where Geralt lifts curse of Adda, Foltest looks to be 35. So I guess it takes place about 25 years before the game? Ciri should be like 21 during Witcher 2 IIRC, so I guess it makes sense...
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Paul_cz: Anyway, in the first The Witcher story, where Geralt lifts curse of Adda, Foltest looks to be 35. So I guess it takes place about 25 years before the game? Ciri should be like 21 during Witcher 2 IIRC, so I guess it makes sense...
That's far too much. Please consider Dandelion's age. He is plain human (in terms of lifespan of course), and he is far from being old in both novels and games. And we know that by the time of lifting the curse from Adda, he was already known poet and Geralt's friend. We also know that the he titled his memoires "Half a Century of Poetry" because he intended to publish them when he reaches 50 years of age.

Also, Adda was 7 at the time the curse was lifted. How old is she at the time of the first game?
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Paul_cz: Anyway, in the first The Witcher story, where Geralt lifts curse of Adda, Foltest looks to be 35. So I guess it takes place about 25 years before the game? Ciri should be like 21 during Witcher 2 IIRC, so I guess it makes sense...
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Isambard: That's far too much. Please consider Dandelion's age. He is plain human (in terms of lifespan of course), and he is far from being old in both novels and games. And we know that by the time of lifting the curse from Adda, he was already known poet and Geralt's friend. We also know that the he titled his memoires "Half a Century of Poetry" because he intended to publish them when he reaches 50 years of age.

Also, Adda was 7 at the time the curse was lifted. How old is she at the time of the first game?
She was striga 7 years
Adda was 14 after curse was lifted now she is around 19-20
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Isambard: Also, Adda was 7 at the time the curse was lifted. How old is she at the time of the first game?
Adda was 14 when the curse was lifted. She was 7 when she left her sarcophagus as a striga and started eating people. She did this for 7 years and was 14 when Geralt cured her.