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Wow --

the fine merchants in the Withcer 2 sure know how to turn a profit. And Geralt seems to enjoy getting ripped off.

Let's take a standard item, like the Blue Mountain Sword. This is a common find early in the game. I collected like 8 of these (dealt with the weight issues too) and sold them for about 18 ormen a pop.

The same merchant I just dealt with was now selling them for 320+ ormen!

WTF!

While I have no intention of buying the sword back, this is a huge pain when dealing with Iron Ore, for example. It weighs a ton, so I have to sell about 20 at a time to decrease my load. If I want to buy it back it sells for 5 times what I sold it for!

Gamers should be able to receive anywhere from at least a third to half of the items value. Why Geralt settles for such low prices is beyond me.
Well, from the very beginning of the game onwards, the king is dead and the whole region is at war. One would assume that the taxation is rather heavy don't you think? ;D
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evilchamp: Wow --

the fine merchants in the Withcer 2 sure know how to turn a profit. And Geralt seems to enjoy getting ripped off.

Let's take a standard item, like the Blue Mountain Sword. This is a common find early in the game. I collected like 8 of these (dealt with the weight issues too) and sold them for about 18 ormen a pop.

The same merchant I just dealt with was now selling them for 320+ ormen!

WTF!

While I have no intention of buying the sword back, this is a huge pain when dealing with Iron Ore, for example. It weighs a ton, so I have to sell about 20 at a time to decrease my load. If I want to buy it back it sells for 5 times what I sold it for!

Gamers should be able to receive anywhere from at least a third to half of the items value. Why Geralt settles for such low prices is beyond me.
trudat. I first noticed the major selling/buying price gap on a fire rune. Makes crafting very costly if you don't hoard the raw materials.
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Borlag: Well, from the very beginning of the game onwards, the king is dead and the whole region is at war. One would assume that the taxation is rather heavy don't you think? ;D
And you think in times like these everyone's paying taxes?
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evilchamp: Wow --

the fine merchants in the Withcer 2 sure know how to turn a profit. And Geralt seems to enjoy getting ripped off.

Let's take a standard item, like the Blue Mountain Sword. This is a common find early in the game. I collected like 8 of these (dealt with the weight issues too) and sold them for about 18 ormen a pop.

The same merchant I just dealt with was now selling them for 320+ ormen!

WTF!

While I have no intention of buying the sword back, this is a huge pain when dealing with Iron Ore, for example. It weighs a ton, so I have to sell about 20 at a time to decrease my load. If I want to buy it back it sells for 5 times what I sold it for!

Gamers should be able to receive anywhere from at least a third to half of the items value. Why Geralt settles for such low prices is beyond me.
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vAddicatedGamer: trudat. I first noticed the major selling/buying price gap on a fire rune. Makes crafting very costly if you don't hoard the raw materials.
That leads into another discussion: Raw materials are abundant, worth very little to sell, but cost an arm and a leg from any merchant.
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vAddicatedGamer: trudat. I first noticed the major selling/buying price gap on a fire rune. Makes crafting very costly if you don't hoard the raw materials.
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evilchamp: That leads into another discussion: Raw materials are abundant, worth very little to sell, but cost an arm and a leg from any merchant.
Yeah, it's super hard to turn any sort of a profit, especially in ACT 3 when the prices for a lot of the higher end gear gets super high.
Hee hee, i laughed when i read the title picturing Geralt standing infront of a stall/merchant haggling while monster go ramage in the background.

But yeah i agree, he sucks at it lol.
It's a balancing thing. The most common buy/sell ratio in RPGs is 1/2, i.e. you sell at half the price you buy for every item, but it quickly leads to a situation where you have enough money to buy anything available and then some. In Witcher this would ruin many aspects of the game (why plan when you can just buy everything?) and needs to be prevented somehow. The easiest way is to radically decrease the amount of money you get from selling items.

I'm only at the first chapter so I don't know if you actually end up with too much money later in the game, but I believe the above is the reasoning for having the low sell prices in the game.
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Borlag: Well, from the very beginning of the game onwards, the king is dead and the whole region is at war. One would assume that the taxation is rather heavy don't you think? ;D
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Kradath: And you think in times like these everyone's paying taxes?
No, but everybody with some troops is extorting "taxes" - like Loredo :-)
The game is very well balanced. When I finished the game, I had 50 orens on me - but I just spent 2000 to get Vran armor assembled. So I had the best gear in the game (Caerme too), but almost no money - and that is how it should be. I hate when in every RPG you eventually have thousands upon thousands of money and nothing to spend it on.
Also found that merchants will only hold onto items sold to them temporarily. So no selling things to merchants and coming back the next day expecting to get them back.

Lack of storage sucketh. The best policy I found is to leave items where I find them (don't remove them from containers) until I need them.

As far as haggling goes, you'd think the Axil sign would be handy . . . . ^ ^
Post edited May 25, 2011 by SlackerSupreme
Honestly, I haven't played far enough into the game to be affected by this just yet, but I will say that this makes perfect sense, since nobody apparently likes Witchers in the game world it only makes sense that the merchants try to rip you off. It's not like Geralt can hide what he is either to score a better deal, not unless he can find some medieval shades to hide the eyes.
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valen1: Honestly, I haven't played far enough into the game to be affected by this just yet, but I will say that this makes perfect sense, since nobody apparently likes Witchers in the game world it only makes sense that the merchants try to rip you off. It's not like Geralt can hide what he is either to score a better deal, not unless he can find some medieval shades to hide the eyes.
Him being a Witcher would mean merchants are more likely not to rip him off. He could do very bad things to them. He's not stupid Geralt is all about knowing how much things cost and earning as much money as he can for his efforts.

Any Merchants in any real world dont really care whom they deal with(they just want goods), they might if its the elves like its frowned apon but dealing with Geralt would be perfectly fine even if nobody likes him. Also not everyone doesnt like Witchers people are wary of them but they are respected for the most part.

Merchants would do good profits if they dealt with Geralt without ripping him off. If he is being ripped off it would be very easy for a Witcher to find a Merchant that doesnt. There would be no collusion between hundreds of Merchants in this type of world(maybe there is a merchants guild), but then a Witcher would just sell on the black market or just directly to people that he knows.

If a Witcher is getting ripped off all the time then he cant do a good job. Theres nothing to indicate that Witchers are second class and put upon all the time.
Tell you what, if you wanna farm money, in Act 2

SPOILER

Go to the quarry and keep farming the harpy, they spawn a lot and quick. In 20 minutes you will gets tons of their organs and mutagens, sell those and be a medieval billionaire.
Post edited May 25, 2011 by ichobi
Who cares if Geralt if a bad haggler.

You can play Dice with any of the merchants and take their coin from there. You win far more coin than losing by poor haggling anyway.