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Posted May 23, 2011
Ι wouldn't worry. IF there is a problem with DRM it will be patched or DRM will be removed after some time has passed.

I think that the gaming community sometimes becomes paranoid about DRM. I don't have problems with my game and the DRM in this game is a very mild version of it.
Posted May 23, 2011
is there any comment from the game developers on this issue so far?
Posted May 23, 2011
@floydryan
No comments yet ... Hopefully they look into it after the release of patch 1.
Posted May 23, 2011
i'm just asking myself: Who will buy the retail version from now on, insead of downloading from gog?

In 48h amazon will be flooded with 1star reviews bashing DRM. So, if DRM is really the problem here (which is not clear), the publisher has no other choice, than to remove or fix DRM.

Maybe it's a conspiracy by CDP to push their own distribution by gog? I'm kidding, of course!

Does this: http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6638/platinum.png

mean, i can download and use the gog exe legally?
If so, where do i get it from?
Post edited May 23, 2011 by floydryan
Posted May 23, 2011
@floydryan
Good question, but it _seems_ legit ... assuming that the post was really made by M. Kicinski from CDPR.
Posted May 23, 2011
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floydryan: mean, i can download and use the gog exe legally?
If so, where do i get it from?
You'd have to buy the game from GOG. Otherwise, there's no legal way of getting the GOG .exe
Posted May 23, 2011
Well if you BOUGHT the game legally.. i guess it's fair for you to use some backdoor...
Posted May 24, 2011
interesting screenshot floydryan... thank you :)
Posted May 24, 2011
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Bowmangr: Ι wouldn't worry. IF there is a problem with DRM it will be patched or DRM will be removed after some time has passed.

I think that the gaming community sometimes becomes paranoid about DRM. I don't have problems with my game and the DRM in this game is a very mild version of it.
Anyone in the gaming community that was "paranoid" about DRM would have bought it DRM free. Considering this is one of the few PC games in recent years that could bought DRM free, I'd expect any "concerned" or "paranoid" gamer to have done so. If they didn't, and actually bought a DRMed copy, then I really find myself utterly lacking in sympathy for supposed "paranoid" people putting up a fuss over their DRM that they willingly choose to buy.

Frankly, I'm getting tired of hearing about these "paranoid" members of the gaming community who, despite their "paranoia" still went ahead and bought into DRM. This is one game where that silly line doesn't work.

Now, I'm sure CPR will work to appeasing these obnoxious people who are crying to a developer who didn't put DRM on their game and made it available DRM free, all the while ignoring the actual publisher that did put DRM on the game for those who wanted to buy into it. Gods, being a game developer like CPR must be so gratifying.
Post edited May 24, 2011 by revial
Posted May 24, 2011
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Yakkuz: Just BECAUSE is a steam version and NEED to start/call steam API (You know, achievements, check protection, steam client, steam cloud etc etc etc).

TW2 Seem to have a NORMAL securom as DRM in retail version (except steam which uses...steam!), so IT'S NOT affecting in-game performance.

So no FPS loss...
Yeah, it's an outside the game activation that happens once when you install. I don't see how it could possibly effect performance. The only kind of DRM which can effect performance is DRM that runs while the game does, like Steam or Games for Windows Live.
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Yakkuz: and NO, you DON'T HAVE the right to crack the game. I
Highly debatable, not a clear fact. Many countries and many laws say you have a right to backup your media and software and removing DRM is necessary to do so most of the time. There have been many legal rulings and cases even in the US which stated that cracking DRM solely to make a backup is not copyright infringement since you are not distributing anything.
Posted May 24, 2011
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StingingVelvet: Yeah, it's an outside the game activation that happens once when you install. I don't see how it could possibly effect performance. The only kind of DRM which can effect performance is DRM that runs while the game does, like Steam or Games for Windows Live.
Unless it's constantly checking all running processes for things like Daemon Tools. It will lower performance during play.

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StingingVelvet: Highly debatable, not a clear fact. Many countries and many laws say you have a right to backup your media and software and removing DRM is necessary to do so most of the time. There have been many legal rulings and cases even in the US which stated that cracking DRM solely to make a backup is not copyright infringement since you are not distributing anything.
You are right. In Poland you can legally modify bought software if you have problems with running it. What you can't is to share your changes with anyone. So using crakcs is legal (if you own the game), distributing them is not.

About this post: http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6638/platinum.png

All it says you will not be banned from forums. It says nothing about being right with the law. Banning is governed by internal company policy.
Post edited May 24, 2011 by pacinpm
Posted May 24, 2011
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revial: Frankly, I'm getting tired of hearing about these "paranoid" members of the gaming community who, despite their "paranoia" still went ahead and bought into DRM. This is one game where that silly line doesn't work.
And how about people who wanted a physical copy including paper manuals and maps? Or those lacking an Internet connection capable of handling a 9GB download in a timely fashion? Or those who pre-ordered before the retail DRM details were disclosed? (which they weren't until almost the last minute). Are you seriously saying that anyone in these groups should be required to pay twice to get a properly functioning game?

The known consequences of online activation are well known (limitations on where you can install, loss of product if the servers shut down) but the issues posted here are clearly new to most users and were not disclosed by the developers or publishers. CDP may have had their hands forced on this, but they also could easily have (and could easily still) provide a simple solution (replacement files, either free to those who can provide proof of purchase or at a nominal charge to any GOG user).
Posted May 24, 2011
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AstralWanderer: CDP may have had their hands forced on this, but they also could easily have (and could easily still) provide a simple solution (replacement files, either free to those who can provide proof of purchase or at a nominal charge to any GOG user).
I may also add that GOG version costs TWICE as much as boxed version in Poland. Before I went GOG I was seriously considering boxed one.
Posted May 24, 2011
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AstralWanderer: CDP may have had their hands forced on this, but they also could easily have (and could easily still) provide a simple solution (replacement files, either free to those who can provide proof of purchase or at a nominal charge to any GOG user).
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pacinpm: I may also add that GOG version costs TWICE as much as boxed version in Poland. Before I went GOG I was seriously considering boxed one.
Well you got three more games with gog. Worth roughly 25 dolars
Posted May 24, 2011
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pacinpm: I may also add that GOG version costs TWICE as much as boxed version in Poland. Before I went GOG I was seriously considering boxed one.
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KarChee: Well you got three more games with gog. Worth roughly 25 dolars
Not really. Witcher 2 is the reason I made GOG account. I don't care about other bonus games. I would prefer to have an option of lower price and no bonus.
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