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rodolfoigl: If you have played Mass Effect 2, you would understand. Very similar to the witcher, but instead haveing 16 ends, it got 4 dif ends and the game is super long. Even more, after you are done with all teh quests, you can still check up your character and keep going all over the place. I mean, cmm, that is not too hard to do. It makes peaple love their toons. stick to the game. and not play the same things over and over 16 times with some changes in who you killed or not.
Whoa, Witcher2 and ME2 are nothing alike, they are not even in the same league. W2 is an RPG, ME2 is... not. It's a shooter with some rpg and action adventure elements.

And why can you play on ME2 after the finale? To let you run through locations you already finished with nothing left to do?
So they could sell some more DLC before release of ME3, that is the whole point.
It's not like it's a TES game, where you take the word as a basis for new adventures from modding.

Just my opinion, but it doesn't make sense to run through a world that is basically done. Some RPG's with a complete open world (not chapters) can be used as a sandbox, but not a story driven game, after there's no story anymore, right? If there are going to be custom adventures, they will be extra modules, like in TW1, because that's just the way it works.


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Taylon: I've been playing for more than 40 hours and still haven't got past killing the Kayron. Somehow I don't think I ever will, despite so many saying its easy.
I did that last night. It's really hard, even after you worked out the theory. But it helps to find a little loophole like that convenient stone foot on the left side. It's a blind spot, so I did exploit that to stand there and regenerate my health after every severed tentacle. And I "cheated" by looking up on YT where exactly I need to run to after the ride on the sweeping arm. I was there twice before - one time the game just decided to crash on me at that point, lol.

I don't know how many hours I've played, because they forgot the timer and I really didn't bother to write down the five minutes between crashes, before I disabled DOF and could play longer at a time. But I've been at it since release day and just won the Kayran fight... at least there's a really nice piece of story progression right afterwards, so don't give up! ;)
Post edited May 25, 2011 by AudreyWinter
I think there are many - like myself, that have over double the time that you have into this game.

And I haven't even started the second path, yet...

The story is so deep and there is so much to do. Lots of playtime in this one.
One of the things I wish more games would adopt from Diablo2 was the way it handled difficulty levels. In D2 when you played the more difficult levels, it unlocked better magic items, and unique items you couldn't get at lower difficulty levels.

I just don't see much of a reason to replay a game just to increase the difficulty . . that's not a carrot, I need a carrot. Of course, with Witcher 2, the carrot is to explore different decision paths. But unique items I could only get on Hard or especially Insane would be nice. As it is, I'll likely never try Insane.
Post edited May 25, 2011 by SlackerSupreme
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rodolfoigl: Yes, i have been playing it again, but doing some of the quests over again is just a pain. Think about it, Blizzard created Diabblo that is a game that you can keep playing after you are done, farming for other things, and the game is not a MMO. Just like withcer.
/facepalm
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StingingVelvet: 42 hours is short?
yeah. i kinda didnt get that part either.

HOW DO U MEASURE YOUR PLAY TIME with the witcher 2??
i see nothing like that :\ i want to, though.

im playing about 3 hours a day. if im gonna spend 2 weeks with this baby than that's a moneys worth.
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Jamanticus: The Witcher games are stories. They've got very defined beginnings and ends. To have you continue playing after the end in a sandbox is something I don't think the devs ever wished for these two games.
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revial: Couldn't have said it better myself. People keep expecting something from this game that it is simply not.
But the players want it so there must be something wrong with Witcher 2!

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StingingVelvet: 42 hours is short?
It's just greed and unappreciation for what they got. For some players, it's never enough.
Post edited May 25, 2011 by hulahula32
sorry if you dont; knwo what RPG means " Role Playing Game". Mass effect 2 is not only a RPG as it got awards of RPG games in 15 dif countries. The dif btw ME2 and the Witcher is that in the Witcher you use swords, in mass effect you use guns. WOA!! chan chan!
About been abble to play after you are done it is a smart thing. All best games get peaple staying totaly fixated on the PC bcs they get to love their character. You fell like it is part of you, and you want to keep playing it. Even if it is just to run arround, looking for things to do for ever. The way Witcher is now ( i loved this game, and think it is awesome) it is going to desapear, for the simple fact that once youare done, you are done. If you want to see the other side of the history you need to start a new toon. That goes agains what i said on the top.
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rodolfoigl: If you have played Mass Effect 2, you would understand. Very similar to the witcher, but instead haveing 16 ends, it got 4 dif ends and the game is super long. Even more, after you are done with all teh quests, you can still check up your character and keep going all over the place. I mean, cmm, that is not too hard to do. It makes peaple love their toons. stick to the game. and not play the same things over and over 16 times with some changes in who you killed or not.
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AudreyWinter: Whoa, Witcher2 and ME2 are nothing alike, they are not even in the same league. W2 is an RPG, ME2 is... not. It's a shooter with some rpg and action adventure elements.

And why can you play on ME2 after the finale? To let you run through locations you already finished with nothing left to do?
So they could sell some more DLC before release of ME3, that is the whole point.
It's not like it's a TES game, where you take the word as a basis for new adventures from modding.

Just my opinion, but it doesn't make sense to run through a world that is basically done. Some RPG's with a complete open world (not chapters) can be used as a sandbox, but not a story driven game, after there's no story anymore, right? If there are going to be custom adventures, they will be extra modules, like in TW1, because that's just the way it works.


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Taylon: I've been playing for more than 40 hours and still haven't got past killing the Kayron. Somehow I don't think I ever will, despite so many saying its easy.
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AudreyWinter: I did that last night. It's really hard, even after you worked out the theory. But it helps to find a little loophole like that convenient stone foot on the left side. It's a blind spot, so I did exploit that to stand there and regenerate my health after every severed tentacle. And I "cheated" by looking up on YT where exactly I need to run to after the ride on the sweeping arm. I was there twice before - one time the game just decided to crash on me at that point, lol.

I don't know how many hours I've played, because they forgot the timer and I really didn't bother to write down the five minutes between crashes, before I disabled DOF and could play longer at a time. But I've been at it since release day and just won the Kayran fight... at least there's a really nice piece of story progression right afterwards, so don't give up! ;)
Mass Effect2 is ten times shorter, I have 50 hours in TW2 and I just started chapter 3. Me 2 with every side quests i was done in 35

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rodolfoigl: sorry if you dont; knwo what RPG means " Role Playing Game". Mass effect 2 is not only a RPG as it got awards of RPG games in 15 dif countries. The dif btw ME2 and the Witcher is that in the Witcher you use swords, in mass effect you use guns. WOA!! chan chan!
About been abble to play after you are done it is a smart thing. All best games get peaple staying totaly fixated on the PC bcs they get to love their character. You fell like it is part of you, and you want to keep playing it. Even if it is just to run arround, looking for things to do for ever. The way Witcher is now ( i loved this game, and think it is awesome) it is going to desapear, for the simple fact that once youare done, you are done. If you want to see the other side of the history you need to start a new toon. That goes agains what i said on the top.
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AudreyWinter: Whoa, Witcher2 and ME2 are nothing alike, they are not even in the same league. W2 is an RPG, ME2 is... not. It's a shooter with some rpg and action adventure elements.

And why can you play on ME2 after the finale? To let you run through locations you already finished with nothing left to do?
So they could sell some more DLC before release of ME3, that is the whole point.
It's not like it's a TES game, where you take the word as a basis for new adventures from modding.

Just my opinion, but it doesn't make sense to run through a world that is basically done. Some RPG's with a complete open world (not chapters) can be used as a sandbox, but not a story driven game, after there's no story anymore, right? If there are going to be custom adventures, they will be extra modules, like in TW1, because that's just the way it works.




I did that last night. It's really hard, even after you worked out the theory. But it helps to find a little loophole like that convenient stone foot on the left side. It's a blind spot, so I did exploit that to stand there and regenerate my health after every severed tentacle. And I "cheated" by looking up on YT where exactly I need to run to after the ride on the sweeping arm. I was there twice before - one time the game just decided to crash on me at that point, lol.

I don't know how many hours I've played, because they forgot the timer and I really didn't bother to write down the five minutes between crashes, before I disabled DOF and could play longer at a time. But I've been at it since release day and just won the Kayran fight... at least there's a really nice piece of story progression right afterwards, so don't give up! ;)
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rodolfoigl:
LMAO because the maonstream casual press who pedander to the casual crowd give ir awards for an RPG it makes it so? Me is barely an rpg, its really a third person shooter with dialog, its world is static where NPC's stand still the entire game, the game tells you what the bad. good responses are, and its simple even for a person who never played an RPG before.

Bioware make the less RPG RPG's around.

Oblivion won countless awards and praise, one of the worst rpg's in recent memory. Decent open world action game, terrible rpg. The worst dialog, linear quests, no dialog option or cholices. broken skills (Speech mini game, lock picking, mercantile), broken level system and terrible scaling. Cookie cutter dungeons and design.

Game media are so immature and behind other media its a joke.
Post edited May 25, 2011 by mastorofpuppetz
If criticysm is underapretiation i thing the world is underapreciated now. Well.. FYI i just finished the game again taking dif decisions and only took me 31 hr. Bcs i knew most of the game ideas.
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revial: Couldn't have said it better myself. People keep expecting something from this game that it is simply not.
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hulahula32: But the players want it so there must be something wrong with Witcher 2!

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StingingVelvet: 42 hours is short?
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hulahula32: It's just greed and unappreciation for what they got. For some players, it's never enough.
The Witcher 2 is super short: okay i can kind of agree with that ( it is not too short in my opinion)
Mass Effect 2 is super long: Wait, wait, WHAT?
What is there actually to complete when you are done with Mass Effect 2? You can scan planets and do the few side quests you meet, but it is not like you can play hours upon hours after completing the game. Yes you can do DLC, but we have to wait for W2 DLC before we can compare there.

Starting a new toon is like the first thing you do after completing a game rpg with choices. It was the first thing i did after completing ME2, and it was the first thing i did after TW2.

If you want to mention super long games, which can be played after completion, then use Fallout 3 or Elder Scrolls as an example.

And yes, ME2 is a RPG.
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mastorofpuppetz: Mass Effect2 is ten times shorter, I have 50 hours in TW2 and I just started chapter 3. Me 2 with every side quests i was done in 35

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rodolfoigl: sorry if you dont; knwo what RPG means " Role Playing Game". Mass effect 2 is not only a RPG as it got awards of RPG games in 15 dif countries. The dif btw ME2 and the Witcher is that in the Witcher you use swords, in mass effect you use guns. WOA!! chan chan!
About been abble to play after you are done it is a smart thing. All best games get peaple staying totaly fixated on the PC bcs they get to love their character. You fell like it is part of you, and you want to keep playing it. Even if it is just to run arround, looking for things to do for ever. The way Witcher is now ( i loved this game, and think it is awesome) it is going to desapear, for the simple fact that once youare done, you are done. If you want to see the other side of the history you need to start a new toon. That goes agains what i said on the top.
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mastorofpuppetz: LMAO because the maonstream casual press who pedander to the casual crowd give ir awards for an RPG it makes it so? Me is barely an rpg, its really a third person shooter with dialog, its world is static where NPC's stand still the entire game, the game tells you what the bad. good responses are, and its simple even for a person who never played an RPG before.

Bioware make the less RPG RPG's around.

Oblivion won countless awards and praise, one of the worst rpg's in recent memory. Decent open world action game, terrible rpg. The worst dialog, linear quests, no dialog option or cholices. broken skills (Speech mini game, lock picking, mercantile), broken level system and terrible scaling. Cookie cutter dungeons and design.

Game media are so immature and behind other media its a joke.
What have you been doing for these 50 hours :P
I played on hard completed it in around in 30 hours and that after dying so many times in prologue and ch1 ( by ch2 i got settled in the game so died a lot less).

And to those who are whining that its short , please ......, most people are averaging 30 to 40 hrs and thats not short for such a great story driven rpg.
I would take this "short" story driven rpg any day over those "long" games where more than half of the gameplay time is spent in mundane go and fetch quests or where you wander around aimlessly even after the game's finished.
If you want long RPG go play Realms of Arkania. To figure out the first quest alone (without reading walkthrough) take an hour.
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mastorofpuppetz: Mass Effect2 is ten times shorter, I have 50 hours in TW2 and I just started chapter 3. Me 2 with every side quests i was done in 35



LMAO because the maonstream casual press who pedander to the casual crowd give ir awards for an RPG it makes it so? Me is barely an rpg, its really a third person shooter with dialog, its world is static where NPC's stand still the entire game, the game tells you what the bad. good responses are, and its simple even for a person who never played an RPG before.

Bioware make the less RPG RPG's around.

Oblivion won countless awards and praise, one of the worst rpg's in recent memory. Decent open world action game, terrible rpg. The worst dialog, linear quests, no dialog option or cholices. broken skills (Speech mini game, lock picking, mercantile), broken level system and terrible scaling. Cookie cutter dungeons and design.

Game media are so immature and behind other media its a joke.
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keter47: What have you been doing for these 50 hours :P
I played on hard completed it in around in 30 hours and that after dying so many times in prologue and ch1 ( by ch2 i got settled in the game so died a lot less).

And to those who are whining that its short , please ......, most people are averaging 30 to 40 hrs and thats not short for such a great story driven rpg.
I would take this "short" story driven rpg any day over those "long" games where more than half of the gameplay time is spent in mundane go and fetch quests or where you wander around aimlessly even after the game's finished.
I explore everything, 20-30 hours chances are you missed things, believe me there a little things to discover everwhere. And I talk to evryone it is an RPG after all. Lots to see and do in this game. i know people who are over 60 hours.

Not only that the game needs at least2 play throughs, the second time its almost like a new story
My first playthrough took me about 35 hours without finishing some quests. Now i started a new save in order to get achievemnts. Moreover, the secound path of the game is great and i am not complaining. It's full with new quests and diffrent locations. Now I am waiting for steam to patch the game in order to start the game on insane. (ofc after I finish the secounf save ^^)

The total gametime can stand on 80 hours. I wish they'll add multiplayer for it. It can be fun fighting bosses and doing quests together in order to get DLC (like quests and items). I bet that if you were getting DLC from multiplayer missions it would be more exciting than getting it in the launcher and I am sorry if my grammar is not so well :P
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mastorofpuppetz: Mass Effect2 is ten times shorter, I have 50 hours in TW2 and I just started chapter 3. Me 2 with every side quests i was done in 35

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rodolfoigl: sorry if you dont; knwo what RPG means " Role Playing Game". Mass effect 2 is not only a RPG as it got awards of RPG games in 15 dif countries. The dif btw ME2 and the Witcher is that in the Witcher you use swords, in mass effect you use guns. WOA!! chan chan!
About been abble to play after you are done it is a smart thing. All best games get peaple staying totaly fixated on the PC bcs they get to love their character. You fell like it is part of you, and you want to keep playing it. Even if it is just to run arround, looking for things to do for ever. The way Witcher is now ( i loved this game, and think it is awesome) it is going to desapear, for the simple fact that once youare done, you are done. If you want to see the other side of the history you need to start a new toon. That goes agains what i said on the top.
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mastorofpuppetz: LMAO because the maonstream casual press who pedander to the casual crowd give ir awards for an RPG it makes it so? Me is barely an rpg, its really a third person shooter with dialog, its world is static where NPC's stand still the entire game, the game tells you what the bad. good responses are, and its simple even for a person who never played an RPG before.

Bioware make the less RPG RPG's around.

Oblivion won countless awards and praise, one of the worst rpg's in recent memory. Decent open world action game, terrible rpg. The worst dialog, linear quests, no dialog option or cholices. broken skills (Speech mini game, lock picking, mercantile), broken level system and terrible scaling. Cookie cutter dungeons and design.

Game media are so immature and behind other media its a joke.
Wow. Calling Oblivion, which is one of the greatest RPGs in the history of videogames, "one of the worst rpg's in recent memory" shows how worthless your opinion really is.

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The Witcher 2 is a lot shorter than The Witcher 1, which is kind of disappointing. I guess it's all about quality over quantity this time around...

Also, why is everyone arguing about Mass Effect 2? I have a total playtime slightly over 46 hours in it and I've done every single mission in the game and have fully upgraded everything that can be upgraded, which is actually longer than my 39 hour playtime of The Witcher 2. I'm slightly disappointed since CD Projekt RED said it would last 80-120 hours. It seems like every developer completely inflates their playtimes these days, except for Bethesda, that is.

But at the end of the day, you can really tell CD Projekt RED cares about their fans/customers way more than pretty much every single other developer out there. All DLC free, no DRM, and constantly keeping us informed about incoming patches/content? I've never seen any other developer care this much about their fans. Its pretty awesome; they definitely deserve developer of the year.
Post edited June 13, 2011 by HoldenJ_C