Posted June 02, 2011
I don't like the interface or the consolitis as much as anyone, but I don't recall CD Projekt ever saying it would be mouse/keyboard exclusive or not controller friendly.
Kleetus
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Registered: Sep 2010
From Australia
I don't like the interface or the consolitis as much as anyone, but I don't recall CD Projekt ever saying it would be mouse/keyboard exclusive or not controller friendly.
mastorofpuppetz
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Registered: May 2011
From Canada
Posted June 02, 2011
TW1 had many problems. TW1 EE addressed most of them. The inventory system was great. The EE version did not fix EVERYTHING, but it was pretty damn close. But why ignore all of these improvements for TW2? If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
...unless, of course, that system isn't really compatible with your true target platform. Imagine playing TW1 with a gamepad (as far as using the inventory and interface is concerned). It would be a lot less enjoyable.
Truth is, the inventory was designed to accommodate gamepads first, then keyboard and mouse. Barely. If you claim for months and months that "PC will always be our first priority" and then release a shitty UI like that, optimized for a peripheral that a minuscule minority of PC players use vs the alternative (K+M), it speaks volume of your integrity.
CPR has been marketing itself as an honest and integral studio for years, and pledged on numerous occasions to honor their PC fans, which could recognize the greatness of the first game in spite of its flaws, and made CPR what they are today. That's how they turned me from a rational adult into a fanboy, because such integrity is so very, very rare.
Unfortunately, they did not honor their word the second they decided to optimize aspects of the game for console controls. I would have happily compromised, but the interface is so shitty compared to TW1 EE that I just cannot accept it.
For one how can it be a console port, when the console version is not even close to complete? Thats impossible. Its a game tailored to use the latest PC hardware, IS not noob friendly, doesnt hold your hand, is very mature, in other words nothing like console RPG's. Its released on PC way before console, which alone shows its not a console port, its the other way around.
You are just another typical whiney PC gamer who thinks every game that uses gamepads, something PC games have been using since the 80's, is consolized.
Inventory works better with a keyboard then a gamepad, moving the cursor is a lot faster then clicking each tab. Again, more BS from you.
Your entire argument is the UI, LMAO, clueless, which still works better with K/m, i know i tried both using my PC on my TV. It stinks with a pad.
Your an idiot. The UI can be improved, itd hardly as bad as you make it sound, I and many have no issues quickly navigating them. Seriously, its annoying at best a minor issue.
Funnt you mention TW1, which ws universally panned for a terrible UI which they had to try and fix in the EEE edition, a PC exclusive I might add.
The facts dont support your whiney ramblings.
TigerLord
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Registered: Nov 2010
From Canada
Posted June 02, 2011
If you own a Porsche and can do 200KM/h in 0.9 seconds on the road, but the seats are completely uncomfortable, you'll probably still enjoy the thrill of speeding with such fury, but it'll be heavily diminished by the sore ass you're sitting on. You would ask yourself, rightfully, "Why did Porsche design such a great looking and performing car, but with such awful seats?"
The same logic applies here. You thoroughly enjoy the game, but each time you must use the interface (which is very often) it frustrates you how shortsighted the devs were, it spoils the fun.
Add up all the little annoying changes, and it culminates into utterly distracting.
mastorofpuppetz
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Registered: May 2011
From Canada
Posted June 02, 2011
NEWSFLASH, PC games have worked with gamepads since the 80's, isnt that the great thing with PC? If you want to play on your TV and couch and relax with a pad you can/ K/M Yep, do that to.
Worst thing about PC gaming is the PC fanbase, what a whiney spoiled bunvh.
If you own a Porsche and can do 200KM/h in 0.9 seconds on the road, but the seats are completely uncomfortable, you'll probably still enjoy the thrill of speeding with such fury, but it'll be heavily diminished by the sore ass you're sitting on. You would ask yourself, rightfully, "Why did Porsche design such a great looking and performing car, but with such awful seats?"
The same logic applies here. You thoroughly enjoy the game, but each time you must use the interface (which is very often) it frustrates you how shortsighted the devs were, it spoils the fun.
Add up all the little annoying changes, and it culminates into utterly distracting.
THE WITCHER 1 did, and that was PC only.
Post edited June 02, 2011 by mastorofpuppetz
Kleetus
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Registered: Sep 2010
From Australia
Posted June 02, 2011
No, it's not.
It doesn't eve support a mouse-wheel, that's about as basic as it gets.
Nor does it support key binding for things like character, inventory, map etc.
Nor does it have a quck-load (even though the manual says it does), and the most annoying, you have to exit the game just to change options.
It doesn't eve support a mouse-wheel, that's about as basic as it gets.
Nor does it support key binding for things like character, inventory, map etc.
Nor does it have a quck-load (even though the manual says it does), and the most annoying, you have to exit the game just to change options.
RatherDashing
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Registered: Dec 2008
From United States
Posted June 02, 2011
Why DON'T most PC gamers own a gamepad, apparently, anyway? I've been using one for games for some time now. It's not like gamepads for PCs are a new concept or anything...
mastorofpuppetz
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Registered: May 2011
From Canada
Posted June 02, 2011
It doesn't eve support a mouse-wheel, that's about as basic as it gets.
Nor does it support key binding for things like character, inventory, map etc.
Nor does it have a quck-load (even though the manual says it does), and the most annoying, you have to exit the game just to change options.
Post edited June 02, 2011 by mastorofpuppetz
Zanderat
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Registered: Dec 2008
From United States
Posted June 02, 2011
It doesn't eve support a mouse-wheel, that's about as basic as it gets.
Nor does it support key binding for things like character, inventory, map etc.
Nor does it have a quck-load (even though the manual says it does), and the most annoying, you have to exit the game just to change options.
TigerLord
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Registered: Nov 2010
From Canada
Posted June 02, 2011
2. Resorts to childish insults rather than intelligent arguments: check.
3. Failed to refute the main arguments with proper counter-arguments: check.
Here's the prime example of the new age Internet troll: an illiterate, uneducated person hoping to sound smart by resorting to personal attacks in the hope we won't see how intellectually weak they are.
Not only did you not understand my position but you misinterpreted just about every fact. If you don't understand something, or would like clarifications, you can ask, and I'll happily clarify my opinion. Then you call me an idiot when your grammar alone brings little angels pain. Priceless!
StingingVelvet
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Registered: Nov 2008
From United States
mastorofpuppetz
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Registered: May 2011
From Canada
Posted June 02, 2011
It doesn't eve support a mouse-wheel, that's about as basic as it gets.
Nor does it support key binding for things like character, inventory, map etc.
Nor does it have a quck-load (even though the manual says it does), and the most annoying, you have to exit the game just to change options.
Freewind
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Registered: May 2011
From United States
Posted June 02, 2011
from one of the developer diary, they already admit that the game was made for multi-platform in my.
the GUI was good - I cannot see how people complain.
This game is way too cheap compared to other games. Fry electronic (USA) offer it for only $39. They took 4 years to build a custom engine and make this game. This is such state of the art, and engineering marvel.
I am happy to see that more people will have a chance to enjoy the game.
They made the game on PC, they port it to console later. They make the game DRM free. They offer DLCs for free. I cannot think of anyother stuffs.
Only the self-fish thinks of themselves first. They make it a big deal, as it their $50 or so worths $5000.
They just want excuses to pirate the game. They just room to rant. They just want themselves to be the center of this universe.
No wonder people say gamers, most of them, have attitude problem.
the GUI was good - I cannot see how people complain.
This game is way too cheap compared to other games. Fry electronic (USA) offer it for only $39. They took 4 years to build a custom engine and make this game. This is such state of the art, and engineering marvel.
I am happy to see that more people will have a chance to enjoy the game.
They made the game on PC, they port it to console later. They make the game DRM free. They offer DLCs for free. I cannot think of anyother stuffs.
Only the self-fish thinks of themselves first. They make it a big deal, as it their $50 or so worths $5000.
They just want excuses to pirate the game. They just room to rant. They just want themselves to be the center of this universe.
No wonder people say gamers, most of them, have attitude problem.
jklinders
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Registered: Mar 2009
From Canada
Posted June 02, 2011
Only speaking for myself of course but I am awkward as hell with a gamepad.
cloud8521
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Registered: Sep 2010
From Russian Federation
Posted June 02, 2011
its not really all that complex. i really is not, there is not really a strategy in this game that does not involve roll away.
and the UI is just icing.
now i always suggesting things that would make a game better in my eyes. my opinion and such.
but believe it or not this is the first THE FIRST i ever have complained about. because i love it so much, i love CDPR so much, i love what i could have been. its just not quite there because of the console at the end of the tunnel. the UI is used so much in this game that it does effect my enjoyment. the UI is in every part of the game, there is no point you are not using a UI. in this game the ui is a major element.
will changing the UI make it perfect in my eyes? no ... but it will be closer to that mark by alot.
they would have to make a few changes to the battle system for balance sakes, yet again my opinion. it really does need to be more complex. right now its not up to my idea of complex, but hey that's just me.
the mouse should be hardware, MUST BE hardware them not making it hardware is RETARDED. there is nothing you can say that will make the software mouse a good thing. they dropped the ball on the mouse, if its not fixed then shame on them. "its just a mouse" you may say, but you know what a software mouse is just an insult to all pc gamers may you use a mouse or a game-pad.
mastorofpuppetz
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Registered: May 2011
From Canada
Posted June 02, 2011
2. Resorts to childish insults rather than intelligent arguments: check.
3. Failed to refute the main arguments with proper counter-arguments: check.
Here's the prime example of the new age Internet troll: an illiterate, uneducated person hoping to sound smart by resorting to personal attacks in the hope we won't see how intellectually weak they are.
Not only did you not understand my position but you misinterpreted just about every fact. If you don't understand something, or would like clarifications, you can ask, and I'll happily clarify my opinion. Then you call me an idiot when your grammar alone brings little angels pain. Priceless!
Anyway, nothing you said has anything to do with anything in this topic, ignore my poijnts only proves how off the mark you are.