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eisberg77: haha, I read the title as 'Are they Hornets?'. I had a confused look on my face while I was reading the OP and then looked back at the title again and understood my confusion. =D
XDDD Maybe it's your bed time? ;)
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Wairuanor: There is no need to call other people "whiners" just because they have concerns and problems with the game.
I'd normally agree with you if not for the mini-tirade over the game scores. A quick google search would reveal that those were the actual scores that had been given at the time, good and bad. Bringing it up in such a way kind of screams "I want to whine about something, anything!"
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soldiergeralt: their forums are down because they're trying to avoid whiners like you.
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keter47: in that case they're not being very professional, are they?
and i think we're completely within our rights to complain if we're not getting the support from the devs that we 're supposed to after paying for the game.
I think its a tad unprofessional on CDPR to not to get the official forum up even after nearly two weeks of game's release.
what's better: playing the game two weeks before the forums are up? or to play it when the forums are up. Say TY they released the game beofre they arranged all around it!
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Wairuanor: There is no need to call other people "whiners" just because they have concerns and problems with the game.
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227: I'd normally agree with you if not for the mini-tirade over the game scores. A quick google search would reveal that those were the actual scores that had been given at the time, good and bad. Bringing it up in such a way kind of screams "I want to whine about something, anything!"
Ah yes, that - I kind of ignored that discussion because for me there has never been a doubt about the game scores being true and valid - after all, it is a truly good game if you get it running (and it worked fine for me before I tried to install the patch - lol, I should have left it at that).
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eisberg77: haha, I read the title as 'Are they Hornets?'. I had a confused look on my face while I was reading the OP and then looked back at the title again and understood my confusion. =D
Psychologically, you probably where thinking Horny, but they aren't cause not enough bare-ass women in the game...so that's not it... or maybe they all got stung by the bug(hornet) and swelled up.. I failed in Psych 101 BTW
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eisberg77: haha, I read the title as 'Are they Hornets?'. I had a confused look on my face while I was reading the OP and then looked back at the title again and understood my confusion. =D
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Gidzin: Psychologically, you probably where thinking Horny, but they aren't cause not enough bare-ass women in the game...so that's not it... or maybe they all got stung by the bug(hornet) and swelled up.. I failed in Psych 101 BTW
=D haha
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keter47: in that case they're not being very professional, are they?
and i think we're completely within our rights to complain if we're not getting the support from the devs that we 're supposed to after paying for the game.
I think its a tad unprofessional on CDPR to not to get the official forum up even after nearly two weeks of game's release.
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electropretzel: what's better: playing the game two weeks before the forums are up? or to play it when the forums are up. Say TY they released the game beofre they arranged all around it!
It would've been better if they could've got the the forum up along the game's release.
direct support from the devs does make lives easier for gamers facing various technical problems. hope fully it would be up within next couple of days.
It's obvius there would be problems with new releases, I never used technical support and i wonder if I'll ever use. What differance will it make if 100 people will ask them the same questions for known bugs? it's abvious they are working in order to solve them. if after a month their forums won't launch than the shame is on them.
i guess you have a point. its easy to forget CDPR is still not a big developer with a large support staff like bioware or betheseda when they keep producing such awesome games.
But still, it would've been better, jus' saying..
Seems I saw somewhere that they were adding some new servers too. Whether or not they were staying with the existing forum software or changing that, I don't know. They may have gotten a bit in over their head though.
If they in progress of adding new servers, i can understand the long time they took.

It is not easy to upgrading / added new server. I have done that in my industrial training. Need to install 5 new servers in my university lab; must reworked all the cables on and off the floor. Not to mention those annoying patch panels, must inspect whether each cables, jacks (around hundreds) worked, rearrange all those tables, racks (extremely heavy), clients, small things and perform maintenance. That's still not included configuration of the servers.
It take us a month to complete a single floor (2 labs), and still i don't even know whether it works properly or not, but since no people complaining i guess it's okay. Just share my little experience here. Sometime we don't know how hard people work their ass off everyday.
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wormholewizards: If they in progress of adding new servers, i can understand the long time they took.

It is not easy to upgrading / added new server. I have done that in my industrial training. Need to install 5 new servers in my university lab; must reworked all the cables on and off the floor. Not to mention those annoying patch panels, must inspect whether each cables, jacks (around hundreds) worked, rearrange all those tables, racks (extremely heavy), clients, small things and perform maintenance. That's still not included configuration of the servers.
It take us a month to complete a single floor (2 labs), and still i don't even know whether it works properly or not, but since no people complaining i guess it's okay. Just share my little experience here. Sometime we don't know how hard people work their ass off everyday.
That is because enterprise grade equipment has nothing to do and is not even remotely similar to ordinary PC's and home grade networking appliances. I maintained server and storage equipment for big companies, and it is difficult, tedious, with long hours and nerve-racking responsibility if even the slightest detail goes wrong. Not to mention the large sums of some 1000+ EU for every second lost to faulty HW.

And then you hear some snot-nosed kid trolling how it is difficult to pick a graphics card, or that Intel is the best because he has been spoon fed marketing fluff from birth. :) It is like calling console gamers hardcore, an obvious oxymoron and marketing inbreeding.

I just hope they don't under compensate and servers go down again...
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wormholewizards: If they in progress of adding new servers, i can understand the long time they took.

It is not easy to upgrading / added new server. I have done that in my industrial training. Need to install 5 new servers in my university lab; must reworked all the cables on and off the floor. Not to mention those annoying patch panels, must inspect whether each cables, jacks (around hundreds) worked, rearrange all those tables, racks (extremely heavy), clients, small things and perform maintenance. That's still not included configuration of the servers.
It take us a month to complete a single floor (2 labs), and still i don't even know whether it works properly or not, but since no people complaining i guess it's okay. Just share my little experience here. Sometime we don't know how hard people work their ass off everyday.
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madant: That is because enterprise grade equipment has nothing to do and is not even remotely similar to ordinary PC's and home grade networking appliances. I maintained server and storage equipment for big companies, and it is difficult, tedious, with long hours and nerve-racking responsibility if even the slightest detail goes wrong. Not to mention the large sums of some 1000+ EU for every second lost to faulty HW.

And then you hear some snot-nosed kid trolling how it is difficult to pick a graphics card, or that Intel is the best because he has been spoon fed marketing fluff from birth. :) It is like calling console gamers hardcore, an obvious oxymoron and marketing inbreeding.

I just hope they don't under compensate and servers go down again...
True, i have screwed up things few time during my industrial training. And the whole team need to wait for me to reworked and correct things before they can move into the next phase. It is very tedious and tension task. But at least i'm just a trainee not a professional, so they kinda understand where i came from.
I can't even think what those guy (like you) have to face with company and customer expectation, 24/7 uptime, complaints, maintenance and so on. It is way difficult and so different than maintaining your home PC server. Still, i understand the golden rule: "The customer always right".
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wormholewizards: True, i have screwed up things few time during my industrial training. And the whole team need to wait for me to reworked and correct things before they can move into the next phase. It is very tedious and tension task. But at least i'm just a trainee not a professional, so they kinda understand where i came from.
I can't even think what those guy (like you) have to face with company and customer expectation, 24/7 uptime, complaints, maintenance and so on. It is way difficult and so different than maintaining your home PC server. Still, i understand the golden rule: "The customer always right".
Wait untill you get to the Blades, that stuff will twist your brain with difficult maintenance logic and affection to just not work ;-)

Assembling and maintaining a classic PC is a breeze, especially with wide variety of magazines, web sites, forums, books, tutorials and courses. On the other hand, enterprise is like pissing acid in the wind: pointless and overly general magazines, no real info on the net, closed pay sites, forums for brand employees only, scarce and expensive books, tutorials and courses that cost like a car and are only for the selected people by invitation only (brand by brand)... And that is only the HW side ;-)

Most users here don't have a f-ing clue what makes their little boner lifter work at all, so I'm not surprised by the lack of detailed examining things and wanting something more challenging and intricate. Hence all the dumbing down and hand-holding that is happening in recent years, and hence our disgust at gamepad favoritism and calculator menues from 20-30 years ago...