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Posted July 20, 2011
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Dave3d: ....
Probably make a suggestion for them to prompt user decision before "banning" a program or .exe. Those can be highly annoying, because it largely works in the background, misleading you to think that the other softwares are faulty and such.
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Kindo: ...
Though I must say I've seen far worse cases.
Post edited July 20, 2011 by vAddicatedGamer
Posted July 20, 2011
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vAddicatedGamer: No you should change it to #^%)()(*& Antivirus? or #^%)()(*& Windows 7?
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Dave3d: Yeah, I just turned 'hueristics' off.
Screw AV products (lol, I work for 1 AV company, the one that deleted my files, lol).
This is why I don't have AV installed on my main gaming machine. :) Sometimes AVs can be worst than viruses. McAfee, ahem...
Posted July 20, 2011
Well, seems that 2 programs were messing up the game:
Norton Antivirus
MalwareBytes Anti-Malware

:(

Both were either stopping the patches from applying, or quarentining files.
Sigh.
Posted July 20, 2011
when i installed the 1.2>1.3 patch using ie9 the exe.us percieved as a threat in the built in download manager, i just ran it from my downloads folder as admin and it worked fine, also i had to make the launcher exempt in avg 10(free) it was seen as a threat there too
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CDP_RED_Team: Sounds like antivirus issue to me. Files don't vanish by themselves and patch doesn't delete files which allow the game to run. Something must have moved or deleted them.

Andrzej Kwiatkowski
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Posted July 20, 2011
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Dave3d: Yeah, I just turned 'hueristics' off.
Screw AV products (lol, I work for 1 AV company, the one that deleted my files, lol).
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MihaiHornet: This is why I don't have AV installed on my main gaming machine. :) Sometimes AVs can be worst than viruses. McAfee, ahem...
I'm glad to see somebody say that. I'm a computer tech, and I have seen internet security programs do more damage than any virus could possibly do, and most that don't do damage render the machine useless by using up more than 50% of the memory or processor power

A certain brand (probably the biggest, and already mentioned in this thread) keeps people from getting malware by stopping them from actually connecting to the internet. You would not believe how many problems can be solved by uninstalling your internet security software and replacing it with a simple A/V program that you turn off when gaming or going to legit sites, and turning it on when surfing.

When a computer comes into my shop the first thing that goes is the internet security software. Then the problems are fixed and a replacement is put on.

As a computer tech, I also stay out of the "will my system run this" threads, because it doesn't matter what kind of hardware you have if your software setup is eating up all the resources of the system.
Posted July 20, 2011
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MihaiHornet: This is why I don't have AV installed on my main gaming machine. :) Sometimes AVs can be worst than viruses. McAfee, ahem...
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TheBigChief: I'm glad to see somebody say that. I'm a computer tech, and I have seen internet security programs do more damage than any virus could possibly do, and most that don't do damage render the machine useless by using up more than 50% of the memory or processor power

A certain brand (probably the biggest, and already mentioned in this thread) keeps people from getting malware by stopping them from actually connecting to the internet. You would not believe how many problems can be solved by uninstalling your internet security software and replacing it with a simple A/V program that you turn off when gaming or going to legit sites, and turning it on when surfing.

When a computer comes into my shop the first thing that goes is the internet security software. Then the problems are fixed and a replacement is put on.

As a computer tech, I also stay out of the "will my system run this" threads, because it doesn't matter what kind of hardware you have if your software setup is eating up all the resources of the system.
Ummm, that may have been true YEARS ago, and with single core processors, but that has not been an issue in the lastcouple years
Most all AV programs use only about 10-20mb of memory, and less than 1% cpu usage on dual core or higher.

What is REALLY messing things up nowadays are Hueristics. 0 day security has become such a big thing, that mfr's are upping the hueristic levels to 'stupid' levels, hence why everything is being detected as a virus or malware.
Also, net-tracking is bad too.
If a new game, or file comes out that almost no one has, it will also be flagged because it is not 'in the wild' yet.

Also, most AV's have a 'gaming mode', where certain things are set to disabled. while a full screen app/game is detected.

So, AV has come a LONG way in the last 2-3 years. They just need to be 'gaming' configured better.

But, I do agree with shutting it off during gaming, and on during browsing.
:)
Posted July 20, 2011
You are right about some of that, and some of my post is a rant. You are thinking from a gamer's perspective, with a high powered gaming machine, rather than a $300 machine from Wal-Mart that came with Vista installed and only 512MB of memory.

Still, internet security eats up way too much system resources, and even the supposed "gaming or full screen mode" doesn't help that much. And, most internet security software doesn't stop these new scareware fake security scanners. Over 70% of what I do is removing malware from computers.

Then on top of that there are printers who have 10 processes running, when the only thing needed to print is the driver. And, multiple programs with auto-updaters running at all times. And, don't get me started on toolbars. I've seen computers with about 3 inches of a browser window available below all the toolbars, even on a 22" inch monitor. Add in Google desktop, Blackberry desktop, iTunes software, Weather desktops, and all the Bloatware added in by the computer manufacturers, who freely use your desktop as a billboard, and you have about 25% of the computer performance you should have from your hardware setup.
Posted July 20, 2011
To add to the post, I rather take the chance of getting my patching corrupted (which usually doesn't happen without a pop-up) than to take the chance of getting spywares and virus creeping into my system.
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TheBigChief: Then on top of that there are printers who have 10 processes running, when the only thing needed to print is the driver. And, multiple programs with auto-updaters running at all times. And, don't get me started on toolbars. I've seen computers with about 3 inches of a browser window available below all the toolbars, even on a 22" inch monitor. Add in Google desktop, Blackberry desktop, iTunes software, Weather desktops, and all the Bloatware added in by the computer manufacturers, who freely use your desktop as a billboard, and you have about 25% of the computer performance you should have from your hardware setup.
I agree with you about this. All these utilities, while looking fancy and conveniently, seriously bloats your PC esp. for low ended system.
Post edited July 20, 2011 by vAddicatedGamer
Posted July 20, 2011
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AudreyWinter: You should teach your antivirus program to ask you before quarantining or deleting anything. I have Win7 and no such problems. I also have an extra folder 'Games' next to 'Program Files' (an old habit even before the modern OS, just to keep it tidy).
I have a folder for games. No problems with 1.3. As soon as it was done the launcher came up and it did fine.
Posted July 22, 2011
Most of the time it really is PICNIC...
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Posted July 22, 2011
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Dave3d: Well, seems that 2 programs were messing up the game:
Norton Antivirus
MalwareBytes Anti-Malware

:(

Both were either stopping the patches from applying, or quarentining files.
Sigh.
MalwareBytes Anti-Malware is great as a second opinion tool if you use the free version that has real time protection disabled, but nowadays there are many lean, gaming friendly antiviruses (even freeware) available that I would chose over bloatware like Norton.
Top right of the diagram, Avira Free is a best buy (hell, it's free), Kaspersky and Nod 32 (ESET) are very popular among gamers.
Post edited July 22, 2011 by yayodeanno
Posted July 22, 2011
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yayodeanno: MalwareBytes Anti-Malware is great as a second opinion tool if you use the free version that has real time protection disabled, but nowadays there are many lean, gaming friendly antiviruses (even freeware) available that I would chose over bloatware like Norton.
Top right of the diagram, Avira Free is a best buy (hell, it's free), Kaspersky and Nod 32 (ESET) are very popular among gamers.
You should make a thread dedicated to this. Once we figure out which antiviruses work with the game and which cause problems (I've also heard of something called "Immunet" causing issues), we'll all have a much easier time figuring out problems like this and the "invalid or incomplete" message.
Posted July 22, 2011
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227: You should make a thread dedicated to this. Once we figure out which antiviruses work with the game and which cause problems (I've also heard of something called "Immunet" causing issues), we'll all have a much easier time figuring out problems like this and the "invalid or incomplete" message.
I run AVG Free 2011, and bought TW2 retail. I patched it successfully from 1.2 to 1.3 with no problems. (Which surprised me, considering I forgot to uninstall my mods before doing so!)
Posted July 22, 2011
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Zaxares: I run AVG Free 2011, and bought TW2 retail. I patched it successfully from 1.2 to 1.3 with no problems. (Which surprised me, considering I forgot to uninstall my mods before doing so!)
Which version you purchased shouldn't make a difference, but I can confirm that AVG Free doesn't cause any problems :)

So far the ones I've seen that cause problems are Norton Antivirus, MalwareBytes Anti-Malware, and something called Immunet.
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