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The Suffering seriesNo german version + no censoring?(15 posts)solved(15 posts)solved
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Posted September 07, 2017
I'm about to buy the 2 games although I already own them on CD and I want to have the answer quick because the games were HEAVILY censored for german audience in the past!
This question / problem has been solved by elhumorimage
Posted September 07, 2017
I wanted to ask the same question:) Is the gog.com version uncut?
Post edited September 07, 2017 by pcblizzard
Posted September 07, 2017
I had buy the two games, i´m downloading now! The first is in an hour ready and the second at midnight! Than can i answer your question!

But for now i would say they are uncensored in germany, because i had buy in the german gog store Saints Row 2 and 3, this games are uncesored!

Than i had read in an Saints Row 2 thread that all gog games are uncensored!

Edit: I had found this in an Saints row 2 thread:

katatonicone (gog member): Hi! We do not have a seperate version for German users. So to answer you question: it is not censored in any way.
Post edited September 07, 2017 by elhumor
Posted September 07, 2017
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elhumor: I had buy the two games, i´m downloading now! The first is in an hour ready and the second at midnight! Than can i answer your question!

But for now i would say they are uncensored in germany, because i had buy in the german gog store Saints Row 2 and 3, this games are uncesored!

Than i had read in an Saints Row 2 thread that all gog games are uncensored!

Edit: I had found this in an Saints row 2 thread:

katatonicone (gog member): Hi! We do not have a seperate version for German users. So to answer you question: it is not censored in any way.
GREAT, THANKS for the INFO. Buying NOW.
Posted September 07, 2017
I've begun playing TS1 and I confirm IT IS UNCUT. It's a damn good game,
Posted September 07, 2017
Yep, it´s uncut!
(TS1: Swastika, Blood on player body, Blood everywhere)
Posted September 07, 2017
+ they removed all the bugs. It's running perfectly on Windows 10 without any changes (except resolution).
Posted September 08, 2017
Here are german files for menus, subtitles, videos, speech.

http://schote.biz/sprachdateien-deutschpatches/10-the-suffering/751-deutsche-texte-untertitel-menus-videos-stimmen-sprachausgabe.html

http://schote.biz/sprachdateien-deutschpatches/10-the-suffering/1866-deutsche-texte-untertitel-menus.html

http://schote.biz/sprachdateien-deutschpatches/10-the-suffering-ties-that-bind/758-deutsche-texte-untertitel-menus.html

However, I have not been able to test whether it works with this GOG version.
Posted November 20, 2017
It is possible (!), that this english version of "the suffering: ties that bind" IS CENSORED, but in completely another way than German low violence version:
In the first Level after you get the shotgun, decide to kill or not to kill the policeman captured by the prisoners, and after that leave the room, you hear a woman voice saying "he cut soo deep".
Then you meet the CREEPER, who in the small black-white scene kills her.

Now the censorship is possible: he doesnot say in GOG version his most famous line "Remember blood is the best lubricant".

In german retail version he says it, but of course in german language.
As the regional censorship concerning the "level-environment bound" violence level is controlled by the file "system.odu" you can only hear this lines and read subtitles if you use system.odu from the censored german version. So the the english audio file is not revomed, it is just not adressed in english version.
I first thought it was an audio bug (even the subtitles showed nothing), but then I checked youtube videos, and only 1 video of 10 with english audio had this line at that moment, BUT all the videos of the censored german version had it working (of cource in german).

Tthis is the only moment, where I noticed differences, as I played only few levels till yet...
Posted November 30, 2017
Funny. Never heard about this kind of censorship and I diidn't recognize it while playing but it's really interesting. Thanks for the information. So I really enjoyed playing both titles again without any issues except known bugs in the middle of the game. Absolutely fantastic and horrifying games.
Posted June 06, 2018
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Darklord666: Funny. Never heard about this kind of censorship and I diidn't recognize it while playing but it's really interesting. Thanks for the information. So I really enjoyed playing both titles again without any issues except known bugs in the middle of the game. Absolutely fantastic and horrifying games.
I have played this game 5 times in german (with 3 beginnigs based on different part 1 savestates) amd tried to get different stories and endings. And then playing it in englsih I just immediately recognized the missing lines )
Posted June 20, 2018
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igorkot: Now the censorship is possible: he doesnot say in GOG version his most famous line "Remember blood is the best lubricant".
I informed GOG support about this. Hopefully the missing dialogue can be restored if it was ever included in the PC version of the game. I never had this game on disc so I can't compare it with the GOG version. I also can't find any PC version videos on YT that have this line included. I'm only able to find videos from console versions where the Creeper will talk a little longer.
Posted July 26, 2018
Using the 1.01 version (30th June 2018) of the AiO patch fixed the missing Creeper phrase. The "System.odu" file included was modified to restore the Creepers most famous sentence.

Here's a short clip I made of the phrase working again: https://streamable.com/9tpt6
Post edited July 26, 2018 by Berzerk2002
Posted July 26, 2018
The hint with System.odu file really helped with pinpointing what the issue with the Creeper line is. I don't have the German version of the game, but I got my hands on the PS2 version, which helped with patching the System.odu file correctly.

At least according to PS2 version, the System.odu file has other differences, depending on the language of the game, so I noted in the patch Readme that this is only for English version, just in case applying it to non-English version would cause any other side effects.

Though at least for German version, messing with System.odu is not needed according to what has been posted in this thread.
Posted January 01, 2020
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