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Posted February 14, 2013
I felt Bioshock was overly political, in a bad way. Hopefully Infinite won't be as pretentious. If anything this makes me very excited for Infinite at least with the "!999 mode".
Posted February 14, 2013
If anything, Infinite will be more political than Bioshock.
Posted February 14, 2013
I think you're right, but it seems like it'll be a little more nuanced. Maybe not though.
Posted February 14, 2013
I confess, The political tones in Bioshock were so interesting to me personally.
The stuff they're showing in Infinite has me cleaning my keyboard every minute, I crave a good story of political suicide.
Posted February 14, 2013
Not sure Bioshock was that political really. It was more pointing out the insanity of extreme positions rather than criticizing normal political right or left. Also it focused on Andrew Ryan not living up to his own ideals.

Bioshock 2 was about socialism taken to mega-extremes by the way, if your annoyance was simply rooted in far-right defense.
Posted February 14, 2013
Whether or not a position is "extreme" is a matter of preference and viewpoint.
Posted February 14, 2013
Both Bioshock and Infinite appear to be anti-individualist and pro-socialist. I don't think you can be any more overt than making both games a distopic vision of a free society, and also making George Washington an enemy boss.

The only game worse than these that I can think of off the top of my head is Rainbow 6: Patriots, where the plot of the game is literally about killing Tea Party patriots fighting against an oppressive and corrupt communist regime that has destroyed the economy and instituted Martial Law. The Game Informer article covers the basic plot pretty well, but doesn't mention how inappropriate it is, or how dangerous and illegal it would be if the government actually acted in such a manner. We already have the NDAA, Drones, ObamaCare, and the kill list, and with the administration pushing gun control, R6: Patriots is closer to reality than any of us want to believe, and the government will be the ones instigating it.

This stuff is beyond entertainment, it's brainwashing, and people shouldn't support this nonsense if they feel the same.
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Posted February 14, 2013
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Phaedros: Whether or not a position is "extreme" is a matter of preference and viewpoint.
Well I'm pretty sure Andrew Ryan was objectively extreme but I guess nothing shocks me about US politics anymore.
Posted March 03, 2013
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Entropy: Both Bioshock and Infinite appear to be anti-individualist and pro-socialist.
The last thing you'd expect from a game inspired by Ayn Rand, right?
Posted March 03, 2013
I thought BIoshock was supposed to be a satire of Ayn Rand.

Not that I care. I make a point of ignoring the storyline in videogames, and sometimes outright not reading in-game text at all. Which makes Zork a REALLY interesting experience, btw.
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