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GOG used Windows GM to synthesize the midi and then saved them as MP3/FLAC. They sound absolutely wretched because of it.
Would have been awesome to see some enhanced remixes, like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CalFsdE4tA
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vulchor: GOG used Windows GM to synthesize the midi and then saved them as MP3/FLAC. They sound absolutely wretched because of it.
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darkroastbeans: Would have been awesome to see some enhanced remixes, like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CalFsdE4tA
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vulchor: GOG used Windows GM to synthesize the midi and then saved them as MP3/FLAC. They sound absolutely wretched because of it.
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darkroastbeans:
Indeed. They could have at least used a decent soundfont. It would have been even cooler to have them use a hardware Roland or the like and then save as FLAC or MP3. Modern Windows GM is by far the very worst.
This is disappointing to hear. GOG, I hope your listening, and make a better effort. Please put out the better soundtrack that I know you're capable of.
Oh FFS. Why did they even bother?
I found that the best way to play back SS1's music was to grab the MIDIs, and then play them back in Windows using CoolSoft's VirtualMIDISynth along with a decent Soundfont.

http://coolsoft.altervista.org/en/virtualmidisynth
There's always this :
https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=2285
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Firebrand9: There's always this :
https://www.systemshock.org/index.php?topic=2285
This is bad ass.
Post edited September 23, 2015 by vulchor
Not sure why all the complaints, the soundtrack sounds great--it even somewhat resembles my SoundBlaster 16, the way I played Shock in 1994.
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Solarnova: Not sure why all the complaints, the soundtrack sounds great--it even somewhat resembles my SoundBlaster 16, the way I played Shock in 1994.
because if one played it with MT-32 or Gravis Ultrasound it sounded soooo much better.
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Solarnova: Not sure why all the complaints, the soundtrack sounds great--it even somewhat resembles my SoundBlaster 16, the way I played Shock in 1994.
I'm afraid your memory is not very good when it comes to the way MIDI sounded on your SB16 back in the day. The SoundBlaster 16 had its own MIDI chip that had much better instrumentation than MGSW, the default MIDI synth in Windows.

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Here's a comparison between the SB16 (which was ok quality for back in the day, but not quite as good as Roland or Gravis) and Microsoft GS Wavetable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXkUK4ufWfI
Post edited September 23, 2015 by vulchor
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Solarnova: Not sure why all the complaints, the soundtrack sounds great--it even somewhat resembles my SoundBlaster 16, the way I played Shock in 1994.
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vulchor: I'm afraid your memory is not very good when it comes to the way MIDI sounded on your SB16 back in the day. The SoundBlaster 16 had its own MIDI chip that had much better instrumentation than MGSW, the default MIDI synth in Windows.

[EDIT]
Here's a comparison between the SB16 (which was ok quality for back in the day, but not quite as good as Roland or Gravis) and Microsoft GS Wavetable.
Hah, I said "somewhat resembles my SoundBlaster 16" not 'resembles my SoundBlaster 16 exactly.'

I found out a long time ago that Music and Audio for this game is highly subjective. Anyone playing this in the DOS days with a different sound card than another player had almost an entirely different experience.

There isn't one version actually better than the other, because it's highly subjective and highly opinionated. All I know is that my SoundBlaster 16 sounded great and that was the ultimate experience for me.

(I also keep in mind that most of the developers used an SB16 when creating the game, it was only a 2 year old card at that point and by far the most popular audio card on PC-DOS.) :)
Post edited September 23, 2015 by Solarnova
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vulchor: I'm afraid your memory is not very good when it comes to the way MIDI sounded on your SB16 back in the day. The SoundBlaster 16 had its own MIDI chip that had much better instrumentation than MGSW, the default MIDI synth in Windows.

[EDIT]
Here's a comparison between the SB16 (which was ok quality for back in the day, but not quite as good as Roland or Gravis) and Microsoft GS Wavetable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXkUK4ufWfI
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Solarnova: Hah, I said "somewhat resembles my SoundBlaster 16" not 'resembles my SoundBlaster 16 exactly.'

I found out a long time ago that Music and Audio for this game is highly subjective. Anyone playing this in the DOS days with a different sound card than another player had almost an entirely different experience.

There isn't one version actually better than the other, because it's highly subjective and highly opinionated. All I know is that my SoundBlaster 16 sounded great and that was the ultimate experience for me.

(I also keep in mind that most of the developers used an SB16 when creating the game, it was only a 2 year old card at that point and by far the most popular audio card on PC-DOS.) :)
For sure it is subjective, and that was really the biggest downside to MIDI (although I think of it as an upside because you can choose your instruments, but devs weren't able to give the same experience to everyone).

However, we should all agree that the default Windows MIDI wavetables are awful. There are instruments and effects missing, and it is only Mono. For those reasons alone are enough to criticize GOG for including FLAC and MP3 downloads done with Windows GM. They offered the MIDI files themselves which was a fantastic idea, therefore making the other formats redundant.

Including FLAC and/or MP3 downloads of the soundtrack would certainly have been valid had they used original hardware or even good emulated soundfonts.
Post edited September 23, 2015 by vulchor
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vulchor: However, we should all agree that the default Windows MIDI wavetables are awful. There are instruments and effects missing, and it is only Mono.
While SoundFonts are indeed an improvement, the default Windows MIDI device is certainly not MONO and not missing any instruments.
So, what is the music originally composed on/for? The settings utility had a General Midi option, so I went with that and a soundfont I generally like the best. I don't think MT-32 was listed.