It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
Didn't GOG say they were going to fix their shitty netcode like a month and a half ago? What ever happened to that?
avatar
SodOfCatarina: Didn't GOG say they were going to fix their shitty netcode like a month and a half ago? What ever happened to that?
They're still working on because calling something "shitty" doesn't accelerate neither help anything.
avatar
SodOfCatarina: Didn't GOG say they were going to fix their shitty netcode like a month and a half ago? What ever happened to that?
avatar
Pityesz: They're still working on because calling something "shitty" doesn't accelerate neither help anything.
it doesn't help, but most of us are relatively justified in our annoyance. There has been absolutely 0 official updates from GOG concerning progress on the promised update; all rumors stem from unofficial communications that have never been confirmed coming from emails and discord. Some transparency would be amazing, but aparently GOG doesn't know how keep the community on their side and they're slowly losing the massive support they had when they released the initial update. I was optimistic they would have something by the first week of november; that would've been plenty of time to work with community modders to implement dedicated servers (which is really all we need). It's been a month since then. I'm fucking pissed.
avatar
pandoran15: it doesn't help, but most of us are relatively justified in our annoyance. There has been absolutely 0 official updates from GOG concerning progress on the promised update; all rumors stem from unofficial communications that have never been confirmed coming from emails and discord. Some transparency would be amazing, but aparently GOG doesn't know how keep the community on their side and they're slowly losing the massive support they had when they released the initial update. I was optimistic they would have something by the first week of november; that would've been plenty of time to work with community modders to implement dedicated servers (which is really all we need). It's been a month since then. I'm fucking pissed.
You guys want something they're promised and that's OK. But as many other members said it wasn't their duty but a service their offered for free. There was a release and while it doesn't work very well it still doesn't change the fact they brought back the official server back. It is question of patience from our side. I waited for 3 years to get a promised content for a game no one even knows, GOG is the same. You paid for a Good Old Game but not for the server which wasn't even mentioned the time the game was released on GOG. Wait till it happen.
avatar
pandoran15: it doesn't help, but most of us are relatively justified in our annoyance. There has been absolutely 0 official updates from GOG concerning progress on the promised update; all rumors stem from unofficial communications that have never been confirmed coming from emails and discord. Some transparency would be amazing, but aparently GOG doesn't know how keep the community on their side and they're slowly losing the massive support they had when they released the initial update. I was optimistic they would have something by the first week of november; that would've been plenty of time to work with community modders to implement dedicated servers (which is really all we need). It's been a month since then. I'm fucking pissed.
avatar
Pityesz: You guys want something they're promised and that's OK. But as many other members said it wasn't their duty but a service their offered for free. There was a release and while it doesn't work very well it still doesn't change the fact they brought back the official server back. It is question of patience from our side. I waited for 3 years to get a promised content for a game no one even knows, GOG is the same. You paid for a Good Old Game but not for the server which wasn't even mentioned the time the game was released on GOG. Wait till it happen.
So if a mechanic restored a Oldtimer car, which was still looking good from the outside (singleplayer was working) but the engine was broken (multiplayer) and the mechanic says:"I fixed the broken engine, so it should run again" and you decide to buy it because of this fix, but this "fixed" Oldtimer breaks down every mile, you wouldn't get mad at the repair guy?

Because you just brought the car from him over the promise that it is working.

And then, hes promising he will fix it ASAP and he is "working" on it but even 8 weeks later, still nothing has changed. Stil breaks down. and every time you wanna call the mechanic, he's not answering the phone.
The fix was promised but the multiplayer not during the time its GOG release. Your example is all wrong. It would sound more like: you buy a restored retro car. You bought it and it works. Then they say they will try to add a turbo engine to make it completelly unique. Since the original car's material was never meant for that it may work may not. Of course eventually it can be integrated but you have to wait for that.
No reason to complain. Let them take as long as they need to get it right.

If you don't want to wait, use swbfspy, gameranger or tunngle.
avatar
Pityesz: The fix was promised but the multiplayer not during the time its GOG release. Your example is all wrong. It would sound more like: you buy a restored retro car. You bought it and it works. Then they say they will try to add a turbo engine to make it completelly unique. Since the original car's material was never meant for that it may work may not. Of course eventually it can be integrated but you have to wait for that.
I have no idea what that first sentence even means (not trying to be insulting), but the multiplayer was working for those who wanted it before GOG's "fix" (swbfspy/gameranger). Diesmon's metaphor is way more accurate: there is no extra "turbo engine" added here (multiplayer already worked) and there's no "integration" that's required for something already "integrated" into the existing system.

My point is GOG could've worked with the modding community to begin with to use the content that already existed to come out with a patch that was at least satisfactory. Taking 2 months to fix something that really takes half that to fix (or less, without getting Disney permission) is absolutely ridiculous, especially when there is compatible content that already exists and is actively being used.
avatar
deadmeow: No reason to complain. Let them take as long as they need to get it right.

If you don't want to wait, use swbfspy, gameranger or tunngle.
we had no reason to complain 2 weeks after it came out. Since we have had 0 communication from GOG on progress for an issue that shouldn't take this long to fix, I feel we are justified in our frustrations. Especially people who bought the game recently specifically for the new multiplayer.
Post edited November 30, 2017 by pandoran15
avatar
pandoran15: My point is GOG could've worked with the modding community to begin with to use the content that already existed to come out with a patch that was at least satisfactory. Taking 2 months to fix something that really takes half that to fix (or less, without getting Disney permission) is absolutely ridiculous, especially when there is compatible content that already exists and is actively being used.
That is impossible. The copyright owner doesn't allow the use of 3rd party modification even for code base. It have to be developed and fully integrated by the owner of the digital publisher's right. This is what takes the time. There is no communication because there doesn't have to be. They said they will restore the official multiplayer but there was no word about how much time it takes. Right now if I'm not wrong they have a handful amount of data collected from the diagnostics of both the clients and the server. Let them analyze it and wait for their words because it will happen whenever they have a clear statement.

Considering everything I heard when a game have the "GOG Galaxy required for multiplayer" note amongst the requirement means it isn't stable yet because even the Galaxy itself is in active development. This however only true for the GOG servers, LAN or SWBFSpy still works perfectly.
avatar
SodOfCatarina: Didn't GOG say they were going to fix their shitty netcode like a month and a half ago? What ever happened to that?
Asking questions such as these are pointless. I wish everyone would stop blaming GOG for everything when there are alternates to using their master-server, whether they be third-party applications or executable modifications, you have other options. You can search the forums to find instructions for those services. I myself (shameless plug) actually possess a guide for two of the more commonly used ones.

Instead of getting upset about the issues they are no doubt experiencing due to this game being a bit old, we should support them in fixing the obvious stability issues that have plagued this new master-server from the start of its conception. I'm not suggesting we should ignore the problems GOG has introduced through their updates, but that we should be a little tolerant toward them for the effort.

In closing, keep in mind their team isn't the biggest (this has been learned through the few updates they've given us) and that issues can always occur with projects unexpectedly, and therefore we have no right to judge them so harshly.
God dammit people, cut them some slack. Does it really matter or not?
Think about it, most the people working at gog are underpaid and have pretty shitty experiences working their asses off just to give satisfaction to some edgy people.
God Bless those polish people.
lol
Post edited December 06, 2017 by PiotrKarwowski
ARen't you all bit over defensive about GOG's update? Calling it shitty is precisely what it is. And I mean no offense, but i first suggestion is going back to using GameRanger it pretty much confirms this acusation. And hell, I am happy with them taking as much time as they need, or even stating that they can't fix it and abandoning this effort, but this lack of communication is simply wrong and is hurting their effort more than anything. I couldn't even find information who brought us multiplayer back when the update was released.
Stating what they are working on, what's are their bigest problems with this update, what and when we can expect would engage what's left of 2005 BF's community and stop threads like this from appearing time and time again. Right now i can't even say what their are working on and what would be fixed. It's simply sad for me, because I enjoyed playing multiplayer again (I couldn't with GameRanger because of bug with integrated GPU), but fighting all the issues without hope is making me lost intrest faster than I would like...
Not like anyone trying to communicate with them other than calling this and that shit or blaming each other lol. GOG requires no protection from the users thus why I doesn't do it. The lack of faith however disturbing. Let me be clear. I think GOG can't deliver River City Ransom Underground properly, I simply didn't bought it yet for example. There was no update on Tempest? Who cares I will do what I have to do in order to get it for myself.

See? This is true in this case. Not they are the one whos have to contact us. We are the customers and we have to live with the rights for asking directly or finding other way. Speaking big in a forum doesn't make yourself bigger, neither helps you get closer to your goal.
Just to be very, very clear here. GOG announced they brought the multiplayer back. There was NO asterik stating it would be nothing but a test phase. They fully aware suggested the mp was working as the customer would expect it. They even had a discount on Star Wars games running at this time of the announcement, hoping people would buy into the revive of the multiplayer. But guess what, the mp was not working as intended. It was a mere joke when one could at best play a 5vs5 match, when GOG advertised the game with 64 player battles.

Not saying GOG tried to rip us off. They probably had much faith in their product. But making people buy into a thing without clearly stating upcoming issues is a very shady thing to do.

Claiming people should use gameranger or swbfspy pretty much underlines who incompetently the patch was thrown together. Yes, it does run on modern hardware and as far as I could tell they game ran rock solid. No crash or anything. But the multiplayer mode was and still is FUBAR.

Just because a service is free (although I bought the game on GOG because of the announcement) does not mean we have to accept, yes I say it, a shitty service. I don't have to accept someone pissing in my face just because he does it for free. But now, almost two months later, GOG is still emptying their bladders onto those who bought the game after the announcement the MP mode is now 'officially' back.