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I bought this game during St. Patrick Day's sale, and I must say I was impressed; I love strategic games like this. I also appreciate how the developer actively participates in discussions in this forum.

I saw that the expansion is already on sale at the developer's website, however I would really like to buy this on GOG. Any word on a release date?
Post edited March 18, 2014 by Rhystic_One
GOG.com doesn´t accept early-access games, so I am afraid it won´t be on GOG.com until the final release. This could delay it until October unfortunately. I suggest to buy it now and complete your GOG.com collection at a later date during a sale or by even buying a second copy and supporting me even more. After all the price is pretty low and I can use all support I can get. If the sales are good I can work on another expansion. Thanks!
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nielsbauer: GOG.com doesn´t accept early-access games, so I am afraid it won´t be on GOG.com until the final release. This could delay it until October unfortunately. I suggest to buy it now and complete your GOG.com collection at a later date during a sale or by even buying a second copy and supporting me even more. After all the price is pretty low and I can use all support I can get. If the sales are good I can work on another expansion. Thanks!
Thank you very much for your reply.
I don't think I'm going to wait until October, so I will probably buy the expansion + DLC from your website ;)

Thank you and keep doing an awesome job for this series :)
Bleargh, there's an expansion? Guess I'll have to wait on booting this one up.
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ShadowWulfe: Bleargh, there's an expansion? Guess I'll have to wait on booting this one up.
The expansion is standalone, ie. SpellForce 2 - SpellForce 2: Dragon Storm.
Post edited March 21, 2014 by Gydion
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nielsbauer: GOG.com doesn´t accept early-access games, so I am afraid it won´t be on GOG.com until the final release. This could delay it until October unfortunately. I suggest to buy it now and complete your GOG.com collection at a later date during a sale or by even buying a second copy and supporting me even more. After all the price is pretty low and I can use all support I can get. If the sales are good I can work on another expansion. Thanks!
It seems to me that Smugglers 5 is still early access, as there are text descriptions all over the game that say something like "description not finished yet - early access version" or some such. Your website says it is still Beta, which is the very definition of Early access. I wasn't aware of this when I purchased it. I don't care if you're indie or EA, making people pay for a beta is wrong. Call me old school, but that's the way I've always seen it.

The game is very good so far, mind you, but I haven't even been able to finish the tutorial yet because of bugs. I'm appalled that you've released an expansion pack before finishing the standard game. Seems like a money-grab to me.
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nielsbauer: GOG.com doesn´t accept early-access games, so I am afraid it won´t be on GOG.com until the final release. This could delay it until October unfortunately. I suggest to buy it now and complete your GOG.com collection at a later date during a sale or by even buying a second copy and supporting me even more. After all the price is pretty low and I can use all support I can get. If the sales are good I can work on another expansion. Thanks!
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vulchor: It seems to me that Smugglers 5 is still early access, as there are text descriptions all over the game that say something like "description not finished yet - early access version" or some such. Your website says it is still Beta, which is the very definition of Early access. I wasn't aware of this when I purchased it. I don't care if you're indie or EA, making people pay for a beta is wrong. Call me old school, but that's the way I've always seen it.

The game is very good so far, mind you, but I haven't even been able to finish the tutorial yet because of bugs. I'm appalled that you've released an expansion pack before finishing the standard game. Seems like a money-grab to me.
I don´t even know where to start.

*I try to breath slowly.*

The main game is finished. I am sorry that by adding new features constantly to the game you feel it is unfinished or a bug appears. This game has become quiet complex to modify. Maybe in the future I follow your advise and just don´t add any new free features ... wait ... some other people might have to say something against it.

List the bugs if you find any or stop complaining. I can play the game through including the tutorial without finding a single one. So I really like to know in order for me to fix it.

Yesterday I found that I missed some skill quotes of the new skills added with the combat system of the expansion. The expansion is still early access. It´s written everywhere. When adding it (AS A FREE BONUS) to the main game, I forgot to add the quotes. This doesn´t make the main game early access. It just makes me hesitate in the future of adding new things for free to a finished game.
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nielsbauer: I don´t even know where to start.

*I try to breath slowly.*

The main game is finished. I am sorry that by adding new features constantly to the game you feel it is unfinished or a bug appears. This game has become quiet complex to modify. Maybe in the future I follow your advise and just don´t add any new free features ... wait ... some other people might have to say something against it.

List the bugs if you find any or stop complaining. I can play the game through including the tutorial without finding a single one. So I really like to know in order for me to fix it.

Yesterday I found that I missed some skill quotes of the new skills added with the combat system of the expansion. The expansion is still early access. It´s written everywhere. When adding it (AS A FREE BONUS) to the main game, I forgot to add the quotes. This doesn´t make the main game early access. It just makes me hesitate in the future of adding new things for free to a finished game.
I'm abit confused about what the latest updates mean: the expansion is standalone, but some of it's features are being added to the previous installment ? That gives less of an incentive to buy the next version, altough free content is always apreciated, and the game is very enjoyable as it is. more than i expected.

I also finished the game multiple times as pirate, fleet officer and bounty hunter, and never had a game breaking bug.
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vulchor: The game is very good so far, mind you, but I haven't even been able to finish the tutorial yet because of bugs. I'm appalled that you've released an expansion pack before finishing the standard game. Seems like a money-grab to me.
I just played through the tutorial again with this build and encountered no problems at all. I have about 5 games going and have yet to hit a game breaking bug in any of them since version 1.1 (when I first bought it).
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nielsbauer: List the bugs if you find any or stop complaining.
On the combat screen the nuclear mine is stretched.

Edit: Win 7 x64
Radeon HD 4300/4500 series
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Post edited April 16, 2014 by Gydion
I felt that the new combat system and the increased native screen resolution are such a big improvements that I HAD to add it to the original game. The expansion still offers plenty of new features to make it worthwhile to be bought. I am intending on adding some special new skills to the expansion too.

Actually I was thinking about these skills (propably as booster skills, which are always available from the beginning):

IN DESIGN:
- Invasion: New Booster skill: "E-Decoder" (Enemy EMP-protection, AECM protection, ECM-protection are removed).
- Invasion: New Booster skill: "Reload" (Your missile timeout timers are set to 0).
- Invasion: New Booster skill: "Hero" (A skill of your choice among "tractor beam", "flee", "boarding", "Booster: Shields" and "Booster: Multitasking EMP" is added
to your skill bar. This only works for those skills which you have acquired). Only available to the player.
- Invasion: New Booster skill: "Superhero" (A skill of your choice among "tractor beam", "flee", "boarding" and "EMP" is added
to your skill bar. This works even if you have not originally acquired these skills). Only available to the player.
- Invasion: New Booster skill: "Multitasking ECM" (An ECM attempt that does not cost any AP).
- Invasion: New Booster skill: "Passive Scanner" (Makes it more difficult for an enemy missile to lock
on your ship, which adds an additional turn to the missile impact time and makes it impossible to activate
AECM protection or ECM protection).
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vulchor: It seems to me that Smugglers 5 is still early access, as there are text descriptions all over the game that say something like "description not finished yet - early access version" or some such. Your website says it is still Beta, which is the very definition of Early access. I wasn't aware of this when I purchased it. I don't care if you're indie or EA, making people pay for a beta is wrong. Call me old school, but that's the way I've always seen it.

The game is very good so far, mind you, but I haven't even been able to finish the tutorial yet because of bugs. I'm appalled that you've released an expansion pack before finishing the standard game. Seems like a money-grab to me.
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nielsbauer: I don´t even know where to start.

*I try to breath slowly.*

The main game is finished. I am sorry that by adding new features constantly to the game you feel it is unfinished or a bug appears. This game has become quiet complex to modify. Maybe in the future I follow your advise and just don´t add any new free features ... wait ... some other people might have to say something against it.

List the bugs if you find any or stop complaining. I can play the game through including the tutorial without finding a single one. So I really like to know in order for me to fix it.

Yesterday I found that I missed some skill quotes of the new skills added with the combat system of the expansion. The expansion is still early access. It´s written everywhere. When adding it (AS A FREE BONUS) to the main game, I forgot to add the quotes. This doesn´t make the main game early access. It just makes me hesitate in the future of adding new things for free to a finished game.
There is no need to be petty. I'm completely new to this game. The messages that I've seen all over the game so far telling me that it was still in an early access state was where I got my misconception. If you feel the game is finished, than it's finished... nothing I can say otherwise about that. If that's the case, then I apologize and take back my comment about the expansion. I no longer feel that you shouldn't release an expansion if you consider the main game finished.

But also, since you are still selling your game, you should not take criticism from your customers personally or feel insulted. Instead, you should find out why your first-time customers would feel that the game is unfinished. In this case, I stated that the game itself had messages telling me that it was unfinished.

As for the bugs, I didn't know you'd take bug reports over the forum. The game keeps locking up on me when I get the part in the tutorial to save the game. I try to save, and the save window disappears and the game locks up. When I alt+tab, I see the save window again, but when I try to alt+tab back to it it disappears again. I am using the latest GOG version.

I have not tried the expansion anywhere, so I don't know if you are including that for free with the main game or not. As I said, this was my first experience with your game. I know that I'm soured by your attitude, however.


Edit: As a helpful suggestion, your website says the game is still in beta. Since your website is the first place a new customer will look to find more information about the game they just purchased, that they thought was finished, you should probably let them know that it is no longer in beta. I don't tend to pay money for betas, since I've been a beta tester for various types of software including games since the mid-nineties.

Also, until you cleared up my misunderstanding, I read no where in the release notes for the patches that the new features that were being added were "early-access" (read alpha/beta) features from the expansion. So how were any of us supposed to know this?
Post edited April 17, 2014 by vulchor
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Rhystic_One: I bought this game during St. Patrick Day's sale, and I must say I was impressed; I love strategic games like this. I also appreciate how the developer actively participates in discussions in this forum.

I saw that the expansion is already on sale at the developer's website, however I would really like to buy this on GOG. Any word on a release date?
While we don't have the expansion just yet, we did just release the Smuggler's Guild downloadable content :)

See here:

http://www.gog.com/game/smugglers_guild
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Rhystic_One: I bought this game during St. Patrick Day's sale, and I must say I was impressed; I love strategic games like this. I also appreciate how the developer actively participates in discussions in this forum.

I saw that the expansion is already on sale at the developer's website, however I would really like to buy this on GOG. Any word on a release date?
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JudasIscariot: While we don't have the expansion just yet, we did just release the Smuggler's Guild downloadable content :)

See here:

http://www.gog.com/game/smugglers_guild
Great news! Thanks GOG ;)