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I'm loving the game, but the only thing that drives me nuts is the amount of time I spend wandering around trying to find a path up a cliff. I'm trying to complete "Ancarian Snow" right now, and one wrong turn meant that I've spent over an hour of real time trying to find a way up a bunch of cliffs to get to a %$#@ town I need to get too -- now it looks like I have to turn around, go back to Bravewall, and see if I can find a road on the other side of the city.
The "big map" doesn't really give enough detail to see a workable path; the mini-map has the "fog of war" blocking any usable information. Has anyone posted a "real" map of Ancara? Less a "cheat" than a "I'm sick of spending hours wandering around the wilderness looking for a path thorugh the woods/cliffs/dunes killing anonymous dudes" issue.
You should not need to leave the town the quest starts in.
Ancarian Snow
edit: I think the game is far far too massive for any full game map to of ever been made. Best you would get is sections, since a lot of the world in inaccessible as well.
Post edited May 30, 2009 by Ois
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For anyone looking for a nice map of Ancaria...
http://www.maplib.net/fullmap.php?id=2244&lat=-52.97&lng=34.95&z=9
I take my previous comment back. It is certainly possible!
DrIstvaan: If I could +1 you once more I would for finding that.
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Ois: I take my previous comment back. It is certainly possible!
DrIstvaan: If I could +1 you once more I would for finding that.

Thank you ;-)
On a related note (for anyone who doesn't know it yet), there is [url=www.sacredwiki.org]SacredWiki[/url], where many things can be found about the game (it isn't a complete duplicate of Wolfe's Lair), including the map posted above.
Post edited May 30, 2009 by DrIstvaan
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DrIstvaan: For anyone looking for a nice map of Ancaria...
http://www.maplib.net/fullmap.php?id=2244&lat=-52.97&lng=34.95&z=9

+1 for preventing from going bald from all the hair pulling I did out of frustration trying to get to those unreachable underworld locations in basic campaign :( (I was expecting the underworld to be, you know, underworld) I must've spend a day or do trying to figure out how to get to locations I could see but could not figure out way to get to. Turns out I havent missed much in my exploration. Aaargh! *bangs head on table out of frustration*
Any way or place to download the whole map?
Edit: ***WARNING: RANDOM RANT***
All in all exploration was rather unsatisfying endevour due to randon loot. Not many quests to be found out side of towns either and most of those can be stumbled upon while doing quest from towns or following main questline. They should have at least put some high level mini bosses to all those out of the way places and dungeons. And what's the freaking idea about class/race restricted items? They could, you know, prevent getting equipment you may never use anyway! Worst part of it is as a Daemon I must've found at least one comple set for every OTHER class than mine! I've found probably about 10 pieces of my own but some of those have been duplicates and all the magical/unique weapons have been absolute crap (why do unique weapons I've found do at most half of the damage compared to normal weapon I can buy in store!?) ; well the ones I could use anyway.
Post edited May 30, 2009 by Petrell
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Petrell: Any way or place to download the whole map?

I don't think it's possible to download that map.
However, I have a very similar map in .jpg format, which is also nicely detailed.
For anyone interested, it can be found in this post. (There are two maps; one this worldmap, and the other one is a reeeally nice collection of the maps of underground areas.) Since it is on the German official Sacred boards, it's in German, but I don't think it's a problem for anyone because you don't have to understand those ~15 words to use the map. To download, simply click on its thumbnail, wait for the page to load up and save the image.
(I tried to attach it here, but since it's 1.9 MB, I couldn't.)
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DrIstvaan: I don't think it's possible to download that map.
However, I have a very similar map in .jpg format, which is also nicely detailed.

Thanks. Not as detailed as I'd hoped but will have to do I guess.
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DrIstvaan: I don't think it's possible to download that map.
However, I have a very similar map in .jpg format, which is also nicely detailed.
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Petrell: Thanks. Not as detailed as I'd hoped but will have to do I guess.

Yup, I know it's not as detailed as the on-line version, but really, this was the best I could get my hands on (download-wise). The others I found are more for highlighting certain spots on the map (dragons, towns...), and thus not detailed at all.
That is AWESOME. Thanks!
maps look nice. :o)
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DrIstvaan: For anyone looking for a nice map of Ancaria...
http://www.maplib.net/fullmap.php?id=2244&lat=-52.97&lng=34.95&z=9
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Petrell: +1 for preventing from going bald from all the hair pulling I did out of frustration trying to get to those unreachable underworld locations in basic campaign :( (I was expecting the underworld to be, you know, underworld) I must've spend a day or do trying to figure out how to get to locations I could see but could not figure out way to get to. Turns out I havent missed much in my exploration. Aaargh! *bangs head on table out of frustration*
Any way or place to download the whole map?
Edit: ***WARNING: RANDOM RANT***
All in all exploration was rather unsatisfying endevour due to randon loot. Not many quests to be found out side of towns either and most of those can be stumbled upon while doing quest from towns or following main questline. They should have at least put some high level mini bosses to all those out of the way places and dungeons. And what's the freaking idea about class/race restricted items? They could, you know, prevent getting equipment you may never use anyway! Worst part of it is as a Daemon I must've found at least one comple set for every OTHER class than mine! I've found probably about 10 pieces of my own but some of those have been duplicates and all the magical/unique weapons have been absolute crap (why do unique weapons I've found do at most half of the damage compared to normal weapon I can buy in store!?) ; well the ones I could use anyway.

Well, this is the same as in Diablo or MMORPG's. You get all kinds of loot. Some you keep, some you trade, some you sell, some you throw back on the ground. If you got only stuff for your class every time an item dropped, they'd have to make almost no items drop.
On finding a more detailed map, I found something out yesterday (I only got the game a few days ago). There's a third way of looking at maps besides the TAB key and the M or worldmap key, and it's often more useful than both because it's clearer by far and covers the right size. That's by clicking on the little dots on the Worldmap screen. A little window opens up in the middle of the worldmap, and you get a nice screenshot of that town or area that's good enough to get a real sense of the place with. It's by far better than the alternatives, I've found.
Unfortunately, it doesn't always work. Sometimes you get a window full of blackness. I thought this might be just for places you haven't entirely cleared the fog of war from, but it's not. Probably a problem with DOSBox or something. I'm on Vista 64 btw.
Anyway, try that out. It's going to come in very handy for me from now on.
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Blarg: On finding a more detailed map, I found something out yesterday (I only got the game a few days ago). There's a third way of looking at maps besides the TAB key and the M or worldmap key, and it's often more useful than both because it's clearer by far and covers the right size. That's by clicking on the little dots on the Worldmap screen. A little window opens up in the middle of the worldmap, and you get a nice screenshot of that town or area that's good enough to get a real sense of the place with. It's by far better than the alternatives, I've found.
Unfortunately, it doesn't always work. Sometimes you get a window full of blackness. I thought this might be just for places you haven't entirely cleared the fog of war from, but it's not. Probably a problem with DOSBox or something. I'm on Vista 64 btw.
Anyway, try that out. It's going to come in very handy for me from now on.

This game doesn't use DOSBox, its an actual Windows game from 2004, long after the days of DOS. You can actually get that "detail window" by clicking anywhere in the world map, not just on the dots. Blackened areas are areas that are still covered by the "fog of war", so if you are encountering them, you are very likely clicking in areas you haven't visited yet. The detail window "targeting" is very sensitive and the scale difference between the world map and the detail window is enormous, so it is entirely possible that your mouse cursor is off by a few pixels on the world map, which equates to miles in the detail window, making you completely miss the area you were aiming for and ending up in an unexplored area of the map. Fortunately, while having the detail window open, you can move your mouse around and scroll all over the map in detail and get to the area you want to see.
Thanks for the reminder on DOSBox.
Note though that I did test to see whether it was a fog of war issue, and it wasn't. This was happening right in the middle of towns I had been all through countless times. Oddly, too, it didn't black out part of the window to show what was covered by a fog of war and what wasn't, but all of it. It looks to me like a genuine bug.
I would suggest then, that is is a bug on your end, most likely something unique to Vista or 64bit. I've been playing this game for years, both the original retail version and now the GOG version and have never encountered what you describe, but then I've always used XP 32bit machines to run the game.