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So, I spent ages save-scumming to get a full icon set on a Daemon, and having done that by level 6, I wondered how low-level a character I could get into Gold, given that the Daemon is really good at avoiding enemies thanks to flight. I had recently gotten a L55 Wood Elf into Niobium with incomplete skill allocation (got to trading and stopped adding, so I could test different specs in Niobium), but she had been collecting Ancarian medals of honor and a few other goodies at every level. She could actually hold her own in Platinum, which made me curious what I could do by abusing both the Daemon's mobility and the quickload button.

Turns out you can get really far with very few levels! I got to level 6 beating Silver, but I got through Gold by level 15, and beat Platinum by 18. So I have a level 18 PC in Niobium, where everything is level 150 and up . . . it's rocket tag - any hit by anyone is lethal, so the save-scumming is even more intense, but I'm now curious whether I can beat Niobium below L20. Unfortunately I'm stuck at the level 158 Sirithcam.

Each completion, I discovered ways to avoid more kills; it turns out that only 12 enemies must die to get to the export point ( Marikosh, the Orc Shaman with the horn or D'Cay [before unlocking the portal in Khorad Nur, the shaman route requires killing the gate guard], Maeglawari, Karissall, Sirithcam, DeMordrey and his 5 guards, and the Sakkara Demon. To avoid leveling up, some of them can be killed using the environment or NPCs not on your team [just make sure neither you nor your companions gets the last hit].

Thus far I've managed to reduce the required kills to 5: Karissall can be kited through the electric beam trap, and DeMordrey and his thugs can all be kited out of the castle to any Valorian swordsmen you saved outside. In both cases you need to do most of the damage yourself, of course.

I thought that I could get the orc shaman killed by skeletons, but I haven't been able to get them to fight - the skeletons seem only to fight the orcs in the center of the city, even if kited over to the shaman's area. There are no fighting NPCs or traps reachable by Sirithcam or the Sakkara demon, and the trap near Maeglawari (used on Karissall) is behind the door that unlocks when she dies. The only remaining possibility of which I can think is kiting Marikosh to Porto Vallum, but (s)he isn't worth that much XP and the run has no cover, so it would be a lot of work [it takes a fair bit of trying to even run that path at full speed, let alone trying to kite an enemy who walks slowly and can freeze you from a distance].

So, I could probably be somewhat lower level had I realized how many kills I could skip from the start, but I refuse to re-play the previous levels in even-more-rocket-tag version. Still, I would be interested in other shortcuts people might propose.

My main reason for this post is to ask if anyone has any ideas for beating a level 158 Sirithcam using a level 18 Daemon. I'm using Hell Sphere (one read, one slotted) for damage, which gives me roughly 3x 5 damage per second (I have it at 166 base damage and have 13 magic damage blacksmith arts [out of 18 slots]: +273% total; 26 second duration and 5.9sec regen, but it takes time to cast), but based on his prior stats, the L164 Karissall that I did manage to kill, and my inability to budge his health bar, I think he's regenerating roughly 20 per second (more than I can deal). I'm guessing he has over 2 million health as well.

The L97 Sirithcam in Platinum took 10 damage per hell sphere and regenerated about 10 per second (judging from the 8+ hours game time it took to remove his 576828 health). I've upgraded a bit (mostly higher level blacksmith arts) since then, and I don't know what else I can reasonably do; I have a stock of runes to read or socket but that tends to lower DPS.
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Curunauth: So, I spent ages save-scumming to get a full icon set on a Daemon, and having done that by level 6
The Fact you have even finished silver by level 6 is absolutely mind-boggling and superhuman.
I surely hope you have finished the game more fully in the past for you to be doing this.

AFAIK it was meant to be

1-60 bronze
60-100 silver
etc etc
I'm thinking about jumping back into Sacred soon, so I'm bumping this old question in the hope that someone has advice on my min-level demon dilemma.
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Curunauth: So, I spent ages save-scumming to get a full icon set on a Daemon, and having done that by level 6
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goodrobbo: The Fact you have even finished silver by level 6 is absolutely mind-boggling and superhuman.
I surely hope you have finished the game more fully in the past for you to be doing this.

AFAIK it was meant to be

1-60 bronze
60-100 silver
etc etc
Heh, yes, as I mentioned, I beat silver, gold, and platinum with a Wood Elf. (She completed all of the side quests / dragons at least once and the Ancarian Medal of Honor every time.) She's 55 in Niobium, but I took a break to try other characters before doing a completionist run at Niobium.
Post edited June 24, 2014 by Curunauth
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Curunauth: I'm thinking about jumping back into Sacred soon, so I'm bumping this old question in the hope that someone has advice on my min-level demon dilemma.
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goodrobbo: The Fact you have even finished silver by level 6 is absolutely mind-boggling and superhuman.
I surely hope you have finished the game more fully in the past for you to be doing this.

AFAIK it was meant to be

1-60 bronze
60-100 silver
etc etc
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Curunauth: Heh, yes, as I mentioned, I beat silver, gold, and platinum with a Wood Elf. (She completed all of the side quests / dragons at least once and the Ancarian Medal of Honor every time.) She's 55 in Niobium, but I took a break to try other characters before doing a completionist run at Niobium.
Good luck man!