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Instead of trying to use your paying customers as free QA labour by spying on them, perhaps you should hire a testing team. I want you to know that I am refunding your game because of your unscrupulous behaviour.
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Serren: Instead of trying to use your paying customers as free QA labour by spying on them, perhaps you should hire a testing team. I want you to know that I am refunding your game because of your unscrupulous behaviour.
Most games don't even ask, you can play the game with telemetry disabled.
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Det_Bullock: Most games don't even ask, you can play the game with telemetry disabled.
And I refund those too, but I'm not interested in whataboutisms or excuses. Snooping is unethical. All of my computers are hardened and I will not permit any leaky program to potentially jeopardise that security. Further, my personal information, computer resources, bandwidth, and electricity are not for use by others for any reason. For the developers to be so entitled to sell spyware, as if they have a right to users' data, is absolutely disgusting and indefensible.

As I said before, if the developers genuinely want to improve their product, they can hire a testing team instead of trying to trick customers into being unpaid QA labourers. And, no, telling customers that they are going to do something bad after customers have paid for, installed and run the software does not pardon them. [Modded.]

Thankfully GOG has a reasonable refund policy or I would be forced to do a chargeback over this fraudulent piece of software that doesn't mention snooping anywhere in the product description.
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Post edited July 16, 2022 by Clownski_
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Det_Bullock: Most games don't even ask, you can play the game with telemetry disabled.
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Serren: And I refund those too, but I'm not interested in whataboutisms or excuses. Snooping is unethical. All of my computers are hardened and I will not permit any leaky program to potentially jeopardise that security. Further, my personal information, computer resources, bandwidth, and electricity are not for use by others for any reason. For the developers to be so entitled to sell spyware, as if they have a right to users' data, is absolutely disgusting and indefensible.

As I said before, if the developers genuinely want to improve their product, they can hire a testing team instead of trying to trick customers into being unpaid QA labourers. And, no, telling customers that they are going to do something bad after customers have paid for, installed and run the software does not pardon them. [Modded]

Thankfully GOG has a reasonable refund policy or I would be forced to do a chargeback over this fraudulent piece of software that doesn't mention snooping anywhere in the product description.
I think that if the dude could afford a QA team he wouldn't have developed the game mostly by himself.
Also QA teams often can't account for how real players play the game for balacing issues.
And, again, you can REFUSE and still play the game.
Personally, while I don't like it, I researched enough to know that if I avoided giving money to every scum company I'd probably die of hunger and thirst and sure as hell wouldn't own a computer or game console.

I'm mostly piqued because it's always indie devs that receive such disingenous complaints by the likes of you and are hurt most by them, never the big shot companies.
Post edited July 16, 2022 by Clownski_
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Det_Bullock: I think that if the dude could afford a QA team he wouldn't have developed the game mostly by himself.
Also QA teams often can't account for how real players play the game for balacing issues.
And, again, you can REFUSE and still play the game.
Personally, while I don't like it, I researched enough to know that if I avoided giving money to every scum company I'd probably die of hunger and thirst and sure as hell wouldn't own a computer or game console.
Perhaps they should use their excess crowdfunding and publisher money more responsibly and pay for professional testers, or give free copies to volunteer testers. Perhaps they should learn a little about computer security and understand that a single player game should not have networking. Perhaps they should have more respect for people and stop feeling so entitled to their data and resources. Those would all be good starts.

Ultimately, however, it is not my problem and I am not interested in your excuses.
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Det_Bullock: I'm mostly piqued because it's always indie devs that receive such disingenous complaints by the likes of you and are hurt most by them, never the big shot companies.
There is no way that you can possibly know what I do.

Now please stop trying to hijack the thread with your damage control. Thanks.
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Det_Bullock: I think that if the dude could afford a QA team he wouldn't have developed the game mostly by himself.
Also QA teams often can't account for how real players play the game for balacing issues.
And, again, you can REFUSE and still play the game.
Personally, while I don't like it, I researched enough to know that if I avoided giving money to every scum company I'd probably die of hunger and thirst and sure as hell wouldn't own a computer or game console.
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Serren: Perhaps they should use their excess crowdfunding and publisher money more responsibly and pay for professional testers, or give free copies to volunteer testers. Perhaps they should learn a little about computer security and understand that a single player game should not have networking. Perhaps they should have more respect for people and stop feeling so entitled to their data and resources. Those would all be good starts.

Ultimately, however, it is not my problem and I am not interested in your excuses.
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Det_Bullock: I'm mostly piqued because it's always indie devs that receive such disingenous complaints by the likes of you and are hurt most by them, never the big shot companies.
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Serren: There is no way that you can possibly know what I do.

Now please stop trying to hijack the thread with your damage control. Thanks.
"damage control"?

I was not referring to your job, but about being insufferably self-righteous about stuff you can opt out of without any consequences.
Post edited July 03, 2022 by Det_Bullock
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Det_Bullock: "damage control"?

I was not referring to your job, but about being insufferably self-righteous about stuff you can opt out of without any consequences.
[Modded. Refrain from insulting others.]
Post edited July 16, 2022 by Clownski_
Locking this thread as it's clearly ran its course. To answer OP - "decline" is there for a reason. If you don't like it when a game has optional telemetry you're free to refund it.