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Pro Pinball seriesWhy DOS, then Windows... and where's The Web?(15 posts)(15 posts)
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Posted July 17, 2010
I love the Pro Pinball series, however, I really wonder why Timeshock is the DOS version and the rest the Windows versions?
Were there compability problems with Timeshock?
And where is The Web, the first one of the series?
Posted July 17, 2010
My guess is that it's due to the CD-Audio tracks. Big Race and Fantastic Journey handled their music from files, but TimeShock used red book cd-audio tracks. DOSBox allows for automounting of a CD image when the game starts, so that audio gets handled.
If they used the windows version, they'd have to supply some sort of Windows-based CD emulator and script to do this. I do this for the Win32 version of TimeShock using DaemonTools, but I'm thinking GoG doesn't want to have to arrange all the licensing and support for that program.
The Web was the same. CD-Audio tracks. Works fine in DOSBox.
Posted July 17, 2010
Okay, I had no idea! Thank you for the info. :)
Still wish they would release the web.
Posted July 23, 2010
Redbook audio doesn't seem like much of an excuse, given that I recall how they updated the Redneck Rampage installer to include the soundtrack (at the cost of about 200 MB greater filesize)...then again, that's DOS, not Win9x.
I recently acquired the Windows version of Timeshock! and found no issues aside from the lack of music. Goes all the way up to 1600x1200 and runs rather nicely, just like Big Race USA and Fantastic Journey.
If they can just get around the redbook audio quirk, then I don't see anything else stopping them from providing us with the Windows version.
(And as for The Web, why is it mentioned in the Fantastic Journey .PDF manual? Was the original retail release bundled with it?)
Posted August 03, 2010
I was also disappointed that the Timeshock! release was DOS only. I run Win7 x64 and the DOS version under DOSBox runs like ass. The ball and movement is choppy - as if there are timing issues with the physics. Since I had a backup of the windows version without the CD-DA, I made a complete version (mixed mode CD) using the CD-DA from the GOG release. The only issue I have with the windows version is "freezing" in the advanced/custom audio configuration menu but using the preset audio config options under the main option menu works fine.
In situations like this where the original release was a mixed mode CD and the game's music is CD-DA, I wish they would also include the windows binaries with the disclaimer that running it would lack the CD-DA. This way those that are familiar with or have virtual drive software can just mount the GOG BIN/CUE on their own and run the windows version. (GOG renames the extensions of BIN/CUE to GOG/INST in their naming convention for mounting in DOSBox.)
Posted August 15, 2010
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HampsterStyle: I was also disappointed that the Timeshock! release was DOS only. I run Win7 x64 and the DOS version under DOSBox runs like ass. The ball and movement is choppy - as if there are timing issues with the physics. Since I had a backup of the windows version without the CD-DA, I made a complete version (mixed mode CD) using the CD-DA from the GOG release. The only issue I have with the windows version is "freezing" in the advanced/custom audio configuration menu but using the preset audio config options under the main option menu works fine.
In situations like this where the original release was a mixed mode CD and the game's music is CD-DA, I wish they would also include the windows binaries with the disclaimer that running it would lack the CD-DA. This way those that are familiar with or have virtual drive software can just mount the GOG BIN/CUE on their own and run the windows version. (GOG renames the extensions of BIN/CUE to GOG/INST in their naming convention for mounting in DOSBox.)

Under each DOS Game there are rendering options. Some rendering methods for DOSBOX make each game smoother then the other and you have to play around with the options to see which one works best.
Posted October 02, 2010
Pro Pinball - The Web is my favourite of the Pro Pinball series, so I'm kinda disappointed it's not available (yet?).
Posted April 07, 2011
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wamu: Pro Pinball - The Web is my favourite of the Pro Pinball series, so I'm kinda disappointed it's not available (yet?).
The Web is definitely the best one. When the heck is GoG getting it?
Posted April 08, 2011
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HampsterStyle: I run Win7 x64 and the DOS version under DOSBox runs like ass. The ball and movement is choppy - as if there are timing issues with the physics.
Perhaps, you could try another DOSBox version or some Windows compatibility mode (e.g. XP) to run DOSBox. In my case (Ubuntu Linux 64 Bit), it was also very choppy and therefore unplayable. Then I changed from the enclosed DOSBox to the (Linux native) DOSBox and since then, it runs smooth as silk!
Posted April 22, 2011
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TParis: I love the Pro Pinball series, however, I really wonder why Timeshock is the DOS version and the rest the Windows versions?

Were there compability problems with Timeshock?

And where is The Web, the first one of the series?
Ive noticed a lot of DOSBOX GOG releases that use CD Audio are using OGG files instead. of emulating true redbook audio. Unless there is something else I am missing here.
Posted May 19, 2011
If you want to increase the resolution and colors in Timeshock, you;ll have to replace the GOG dosbox with the M86 megabuild one.. it allows you to increase the video memory, allowing for resolutions much higher.. i currently run Timeshock on dosbox 16 million colors and 1280x1024.. as my monitor doesn't support 1600x1200 that's the highest i can go
Posted May 20, 2011
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Doccus: If you want to increase the resolution and colors in Timeshock, you;ll have to replace the GOG dosbox with the M86 megabuild one.. it allows you to increase the video memory, allowing for resolutions much higher.. i currently run Timeshock on dosbox 16 million colors and 1280x1024.. as my monitor doesn't support 1600x1200 that's the highest i can go
can you post me the link for that megabuild?
Posted May 29, 2011
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Doccus: If you want to increase the resolution and colors in Timeshock, you;ll have to replace the GOG dosbox with the M86 megabuild one.. it allows you to increase the video memory, allowing for resolutions much higher.. i currently run Timeshock on dosbox 16 million colors and 1280x1024.. as my monitor doesn't support 1600x1200 that's the highest i can go
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wormholewizards: can you post me the link for that megabuild?
http://www.4shared.com/folder/Kbbm0f8B/GoG_Upgrades.html

the original website for the megabuild is here...

http://home.arcor.de/h-a-l-9000/
Post edited June 13, 2011 by Doccus
Posted July 07, 2012
How do you increase the video memory after replacing the DOSbox folder with the megabuild?
Posted September 08, 2013
(Bumping threads about GOG only having the DOS version of Timeshock)

If you pledge any amount at all to the Timeshock Ultra Edition kickstarter, you'll receive the original Windows version of the game right away.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/500643708/pro-pinball-timeshock-the-ultra-edition-0
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