Posted March 27, 2015
aristotle61: I don't know how good this game is because I have not played it, but it does seem way too expensive.
The graphics, by today's standards anyway, seem quite crude. This wouldn't be so bad if the game's system requirements reflected the fact that this game looks like it was made many years ago, but it has higher system requirements, and costs more than games that are far more advanced. Why? Lazy programming? Lack of programmers? I understand that it is a Kickstarter game with limited funding and resources, but that doesn't change the fact that the game is dated, has high system requirements, and as seems to be the norm with Kickstarter projects, an unreasonable amount of bugs. All of this before even getting into whether it is a really good game or not.
I think people are being charged for their nostalgic feelings about Baldur's Gate. If this same game were to come out without any connection to the classic Baldur's Gate, how good would people think it is then, and how much would they pay?
AiCola: Funny how you can judge the game despite not ever playing it. The graphics, by today's standards anyway, seem quite crude. This wouldn't be so bad if the game's system requirements reflected the fact that this game looks like it was made many years ago, but it has higher system requirements, and costs more than games that are far more advanced. Why? Lazy programming? Lack of programmers? I understand that it is a Kickstarter game with limited funding and resources, but that doesn't change the fact that the game is dated, has high system requirements, and as seems to be the norm with Kickstarter projects, an unreasonable amount of bugs. All of this before even getting into whether it is a really good game or not.
I think people are being charged for their nostalgic feelings about Baldur's Gate. If this same game were to come out without any connection to the classic Baldur's Gate, how good would people think it is then, and how much would they pay?
Here are the facts that correspond to your claims:
1. graphics, system requirements etc.
The graphics of this game are VERY good.
the 2D Background is done very well and with a ton of love for detail, if you zoom in all the way the textures become a little bit blurry but are still quite nice.
Honestly what would you change with the graphics?
Usually with games like this the background oftne looks very nice but the characters are ugly in comparison (for example shadowrun returns, or wasteland 2, where everything is rather ugly)
In this game the characters look very good, almost like they were hand-drawn aswell, which is quite impressive.
Saying the graphics are bad and outdated can only mean that you simply don't like the isometric view, in which case it is nonsensical of you to comment on the graphics.
please show me a single rpg game with isometric view that has better graphics.
"This wouldn't be so bad if the game's system requirements reflected the fact that this game looks like it was made many years ago, but it has higher system requirements, and costs more than games that are far more advanced. Why? Lazy programming? Lack of programmers? "
Can you give examples of similar games that are more advanced and cost less?
the recent divinity: original sin costs exactly the same, wasteland 2 cost even more i think and was not done as well in terms of graphics.
Which of these games have lower system requirements?
You won't find many, trust me.
I have only played a few hours today (obviously ...) but the game already has tons of dialogue and hand-crafted content.
This type of content costs time and money, don't you get that?
Of course you can "cheat" and make a giant game like draon age: inquisition by just making a ton of empty areas with randomly generated respawning enemies, but that is for people who don't care for story and characters and only want to collect things for copy pasted quest givers that have nothing interesting to say.
None of that bullshit is in pillars of eternity.
" I understand that it is a Kickstarter game with limited funding and resources, but that doesn't change the fact that the game is dated, has high system requirements"
The game first of all is not dated at all, like i said before.
And the system requirements are quite low compared to what is standard technology today.
Compared to the old infinity engine games the system requirements have gone up due to much more complex math in the combat systems and actual real time instead of turn based real time and of course because of much better graphics.
The characters are animated quite nicely, as i said before, and the resolution of all the background textures is rather high aswell.
The game looks AWESOME!
If you honestly think the system requirements are very high then you are playing on a potato and are not able to play any new games at all, what current game are you able to play that has lower system requirements, but looks less "dated"????
2. bugs
i have not encountered a single bug.
Only one very minor thing that i am not sure about wether it is a bug or not, that does not effect me playing the game at all.
When i played wasteland 2 on release it was much more bugged and i even had to start a new game due to that.
Same goes with games like Dragon Age: Inquisition, THAT game was buggy when it was released.
Pillars of Eternity came out today, nobody has complained about bugs and yet you claim that it is extremly buggy.
Stop making up things that are not true please.
3. prize
Like i said before, this game is very huge, probably bigger than baldur's gate, and baldur's gate was not really any cheaper back when it came out.
Your question on how much people would be willing to pay if it was not linked to baldur's gate makes no sense.
The game was funded and demanded by people to be the spiritual successor to baldur's gate.
It is like asking wether people would buy draon age:Inquisition if it was not based on the really great draon age:origins.
If it was not, then it would be a completly different game....
If you look at divinity: original sin you can see that people spend EXACTLY the same amount of money on a game that has nothing to do with baldur's gate, but is made in the same way ...
I do not need to play the game to see the graphics. There are tons of videos on Youtube and elsewhere. In addition to my opinion from having seen the graphics, I noticed a lot of people commenting on the poor graphics which just confirmed what I saw with my own eyes. My comment about the bugs is based on a lot of people commenting on the problems they are having AND the fact that this seems to be a trend with Kickstarter games. They are not polished.
The reason I posted this in the first place is to get feedback on these impressions, not to tell everyone how they should feel about the game. I'm glad you like it but I don't think it should cost almost as much as a AAA title.