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Pillars of Eternity SeriesDRM Free on Steam?(22 posts)solved(22 posts)solved
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Posted April 01, 2015
For anyone that has purchased this game though Steam, does it have Steamworks DRM or can it be run without Steam? If anyone can let me know I would deeply appreciate it.

P.S.
I just got a Steam gift card. If it weren't for that I wouldn't even think of buying this game though Steam.
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Posted April 01, 2015
I'm not an expert on Steam, but I do believe that every Steam game need Steam to run.
Posted April 01, 2015
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DocDoomII: I'm not an expert on Steam, but I do believe that every Steam game need Steam to run.
Some don't. Most of the older games can be run without Steam and all Flash games and DOSbox games. I think it's up to the developer if they want DRM on it or not. I've run Dungeons of Dredmor recently without Steam even being installed on the computer and it worked with no issues.
Posted April 01, 2015
Pretty sure I read somewhere that even if you click the executable while logged out of Steam, the game will load up Steam before opening the game. In other words, it seems to have the normal Steam DRM. I'll try to find the post (I think it was from a Dev?) and verify this.

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Bah! I can't find it again. It was hidden deep in a thread about possible bug workarounds. One of the suggestions was to edit some files, and then the question was asked if it could be done with the Steam version, etc. At least that is my recollection (I don't even remember the answer to that question, only that it was brought up).
Post edited April 01, 2015 by Krypsyn
Posted April 01, 2015
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DocDoomII: I'm not an expert on Steam, but I do believe that every Steam game need Steam to run.
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dkclemons1: Some don't. Most of the older games can be run without Steam and all Flash games and DOSbox games. I think it's up to the developer if they want DRM on it or not. I've run Dungeons of Dredmor recently without Steam even being installed on the computer and it worked with no issues.
In both cases I'm not even sure you can put a shell around them (be it Steam or anything else).
The first are web broser softwares and the other is a software that emulates a DOS environment.
Posted April 01, 2015
Every Paradox game including this one here is DRM free on steam.
You only need the client to download the game.
Then you can move the game library wherever you want and
launch it without any restrictions.

Same for Wasteland2 on Steam for example....

EDIT: Doesn't mean you shouldn't buy it here !!!!!! =P
Support the DRM free revolution !!!
Post edited April 01, 2015 by jaydee2k
Posted April 01, 2015
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jaydee2k: Every Paradox game including this one here is DRM free on steam.
You only need the client to download the game.
Then you can move the game library wherever you want and
launch it without any restrictions.
This does not seem to be the case with Pillars of Eternity, however. Check out the Amazon listing for the game. It shows "DRM: Steam"

Obsidian Home Page seems to imply this as well where it states: "Distribution via Steam and GOG (DRM-free)". I infer from this that GOG is DRM-free while Steam is not.

I can't find incontrovertible proof (I have boon looking), but the indication is that Pillar's of Eternity is not DRM-free on Steam.
Post edited April 01, 2015 by Krypsyn
Posted April 01, 2015
Yeah because the box versions have to be registered in steam.
But again, after the download the steam client must not be open.
It's DRM free....
Posted April 01, 2015
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jaydee2k: It's DRM free....
Nope. Not from what I am seeing, anyway. I would be happy to be proved wrong on this point, however.
Post edited April 01, 2015 by Krypsyn
Posted April 01, 2015
EDIT: DAMN
Pillars is not, whelp thought they did it.
My fault!
However Wasteland 2 is....
Post edited April 01, 2015 by jaydee2k
Posted April 01, 2015
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jaydee2k: It is.... But ok.
Believe it or not....
This thread disagrees with you.

As does this one.

The only thing I am missing is an actual developer confirming it, but all other indications point to Steam DRM.
Post edited April 01, 2015 by Krypsyn
Posted April 02, 2015
Alright, I purchased the game because I was seeing both answers and there wasn't anything else on Steam I want (Other than maybe Wasteland 2 and Hotline Miami 2) and it doesn't look like it will run without Steam. It has the SteamworksNatice.dll and steam_api.dll files and renaming them or removing them doesn't seem to make a difference. There may be a way to get it to work, but I'm afraid to mess with it any more without a guide, and I don't want to have to redownload it because my connection sucks.

Thanks for the answers everybody!
Posted April 04, 2015
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jaydee2k: Every Paradox game including this one here is DRM free on steam.
Wrong. Magicka and Teleglitch (games published by Paradox) can't run without the Steam client. The only Paradox games that are guaranteed to run without the Steam client are only those developed by Paradox. Even then, Crusader Kings 2 and Europa Universalis IV need the Steam client for their DLCs.
Posted April 04, 2015
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Krypsyn: Pretty sure I read somewhere that even if you click the executable while logged out of Steam, the game will load up Steam before opening the game. In other words, it seems to have the normal Steam DRM. I'll try to find the post (I think it was from a Dev?) and verify this.
Eeeh, that doesn't necessarily mean the game won't run without Steam tho, just that it tries to call it. The only foolproof way of finding out is to copy the game over to a machine without Steam, try it from there, then delete the Steam .dll thing if that doesn't work and try it again.
Posted April 04, 2015
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Fenixp: Eeeh, that doesn't necessarily mean the game won't run without Steam tho, just that it tries to call it. The only foolproof way of finding out is to copy the game over to a machine without Steam, try it from there, then delete the Steam .dll thing if that doesn't work and try it again.
Yeah, but all my follow up posts seem to indicate it further. It is more of a chain of strong circumstantial evidence, because I can't find an actual developer post to confirm it. That thread I was thinking of, if memory serves, actually had a link to a quote (or an Obsidian representative actually posted), but I could never find it again.
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