Hello again ;)

im experimenting with a ranger MC. So i asked for help at the steam forum, but i get different answers and now im more confused then before.

The animal boon feat...the wiki says this:

https://pathfinderkingmaker.fandom.com/wiki/Boon_Companion
"The abilities of your animal are calculated as though your class were 4 lvls higher, to a max effective lvl equal to your char level"

So does that mean if i put 20 levels into rangers, the ability would boost my lvl to 24 = pet -4 = pet is lvl 20? And if i only spend 16 into ranger , = it boosts my lvl to 20 = pet is level 16 in the end?

Because one person said my pet will be 13 if i only put 16 into ranger and that confused me a lot ^^

I thought bout putting atleast 2 EA or/and 2 rogue lvls too for sneak attacks and +magic dmg.

Thanks again in advance ;)

P.S: Which feats are a must for the ranger beides Point-blank-shot , better initate, quick shot ?

I haven't yet tested this to see how Owlcat actually implemented the feat, but I think Boon Companion only truly benefits you if you multiclass your ranger with a class that does not get "pet levels." So taking 20 levels of ranger won't benefit you at all because the game's maximum character level is 20, and your pet's effective level is your ranger level minus three.

A character with 16 ranger levels and 4 "non-pet" levels will thus have a level 13 pet without Boon Companion. With it, I believe your pet's level will be 17 because the feat should treat you as a level 20 ranger for pet leveling purposes.

What it does is adds effective levels as if you took a pet class(but no more than your character). Ranger gets a pet at 4. so he's at -3. Taking boon at 5 would allow the pet to catch up to you and have 1 more "spare" level banked to take in a non-pet class without hindering your animal companion.

Thanks to the 2 of you :)

Ranger is rly nice in the firsts lvls and i hope this will continue throu the game.

If there would be a 2. part of pathfinder, i hope there will be no more annoying barony management. Rls annoying.

How is it annoying? On my recent unfair run I have all 10s and just skipping time for like 3month+. Most stats are 350+ without building much of anything. Game is very generous with time.
All it does is forces you to manage time better and not to go nova on every encounter, which is a good thing. I really hope they will keep the time pressure in their next game(and I hope they won't go 2e).

First world is not a bad 2nd pick. Underground is pretty universal as well. Ultimately terrains don't matter much it's just a few points of skills.

It all adds up, and Nature lore isn't the easist skill to boost. Of course Perception is the most important skill in the game so you can't get enough of that either.

Not really. What adds up is more people with high perception. Otherwise stacking 45+ is enough. Lore: nature is more or less useless as it's mostly for skinning that pays peanuts and gives no exp.Hunting is ok, but even then a few points won't make or break it.

+ indeed, see pic.

Yeah, and the goal is to get to 45+ without burning any feats. That's what Favored Terrain does.

Naure Lore gives info on dead mobs.

info on mobs... is very much useless, imo. You get all the info you need from the name of the enemy.
Situational boosts to anything are unreliable(and not valuable as a result), unless you can manually trigger those.
As to perception... just play sacred instead if you want per. Now that's a real perception stacking machine. Even your standard cleric18/V2 is a better spotter than ranger as he ends up at 45-ish per raw with just WIS items and 1 focus.. Bombardiers too, cause cognatogen.

No, saves, AC, attacks, abilities, and immunities are all valuable.

Why do I always have to point out the obvious to you?

Another plus for my SH 8 on Ekun. I want Perception on all my toons that can afford it since everyone gets a roll. I don't want to have to spend feats on it, so passive abilities that do other things too are ideal.

Classic Vivi splash on Cleric is classically awful.

It's not valuable at all. You can't change your numbers, so who even cares?
Saves? Who cares. Decent caster has enough to beat even the best saves of any given mob at any given time and all immunities you should care about are right there in the enemies name.
AC? even less so. You can't change the numbers, and are stacking anyways, so that info is even more useless.
Abilities too. You run full set of buffs anyways as casting them in combat costs actions.
And besides you just know all of the above if it's not your first run.

Yes, learning useless things about mobs and wasting time is super obvious.

You will have to cough up a least skill focus no matter what. There are DC50+ checks on unfair, which is the only difficulty with any challenge at all(and as such the only one worth consideration), so a few guys with 45+ per are just something that needs to happen. 1 feat is not much and most characters have spare feats anyways.

yes, +2AB+2AC extra for everyone once per day(from guarded health), and+2DC+2AB+2AC(from almost guaranteed heightened archon's aura) for everyone for 20 minutes a day is awful. Not to mention casual +2DC on every offensive spel cleric casts. Blade barrier, for example, (since any cleric invests into evocation no matter what - might as well use another broken spell) while all you get from 2 more cleric levels is more lvl9 spells, which will likely be mass heal that you can(and will) cast from scrolls just as fine.
LOL.

Good to see you've at least learned to use Archon's Aura.

There is hope.

The problem with splashing on casters is lower caster level hurts in various ways. Boosting caster stat is better than boosting fighting stats since it's harder to do, so cognatogen is nice, but you're still missing out on martial proficiency that you'd get from splashing fighter/ranger/barb, and that zero BAB hurts. Fighting with a martial weapon and Frightful Aspect is a powerful combination, and even before then Enlarge + Reach puts you in good position and you can contribute a lot with Outflank.

If you're really blowing out saves with a Cleric so much on Unfair that you don't care to know the weak ones then more power to you. That's a lot more work than being reasonably productive in melee with all your strong self-buffs.

As for Guarded Hearth, try Inspiring Command. It's better. The extra 2 on Hearth is overkill.

Here's an example of info on mobs being useful - you can see my MC ES passing Knowledge (Arcana) checks on this Jabberwock where she discovered that it was immune to Fire (so went with Bow instead of Hellfire Ray) and Vulnerable to Cold so Ekun switched to his Longbow of the Cold Moon for a 74-point Manyshot. Unfair Jabberwock went down before getting a chance to act. This was intended to be an ambush, but high initiaitve and detailed knowledge of what I was facing turned the tables.