Hello,

Quick question. I really want to play an Undead Sorc bloodline MC that focuses on control spells. Would I just follow your Sylvan Sorcerer template that you completed or should some changes be made?

Thank you very much!

pretty much sylvan sorc from unfair guide will do.

Hey,

Been a huge fan of your builds and thinking of something of my own but having a lot of trouble creating it.

I've got the DLC's and hoping for a hard viable character. (Going to run 4man party through unfair).

What I'm trying to build is a vivisectionist/aldori defender and maybe dip something else. TWF with dueling swords. Early-game doesn't matter, hoping more for an mid-endgame character.

If you could give a build suggestion based on that, that would be awesome! Super unsure if I should be dipping thug, paladin etc. and what feats to go for. Same with stat spread, seems to be much harder to build than what I originally though.

what exactly do you want from aldori and why dueling swords would be the question. If you want twf vivi it can be done better.

On the substance you need either
4/12/16 levels of vivi
1/2/8/9 Aldori
to be more usable it probably also wants mirror image and AC.
with dueling sword TWF you don't want dex for sure.
Lets just say we get 12vivi and at a minimum 1 aldori as it would give you effectively 2 feats. That's 13. with 6 left you can grab archae2/DD4. 1 left. Best for the money would be 1 monk for another 2 feats.
So my pick would be V12/F1/SF1/archae2/DD4 with TM1=>V3=>Archae2=>DD4 as a base.
For armor you want either protector robes if LG or Oak if not.
Alternatively, you can trade a level of monk for Deliverer and trade 1 feat for 1AB that way by picking irori.
Race you can grab motherless tiefling or human. Aasimar will do too, but it'll probably get a bit tight in the feats with wiings.
Spread I'd look at 18/15/12/12/16/7 if motherless with 1 dex at 4 and 4 str after. Works better in robes since you'd end at 28Dex anyways, so a lot would be wasted with oak. For oak you'd want to start at 13dex and wait later for items to qualify fir TWF feats.
Alternatively, for hard you can just do M1/V16/F2/Slayer1 with M1/V3/F1=>V16 base and be fine.
As for the feats it's pretty standard fare. Outflank, crane, shatter and twf will do.

I guess I was too focused on aldori since I wanted to roll with dueling swords. To be more exact, I'm looking for a high damage dealer with TWF while using dueling swords and going 8 or 12 vivi, rather 12 for more spells. Aldori doesn't really matter to me, dueling is kind of RP reasons. Not a fan of kukri/dagger there. I know I take a small hit but aiming for hard viable instead of unfair.

12 vivi / 1 scaled fist / 4 thug? / something something should probably be good. Just unsure of what to add and if there's something better to go for instead.

Human is totally fine. I thought I can also dump wis since it shouldn't be needed. Enough int for vivi spells (14?).

Thanks a ton for the quick reply as well. Quite a newbie at this still. Was a bit unsure on why I need str when going dueling since I do have finesse weapon etc. feats.

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Since I'd be rolling dueling swords and having str with them, a bit lower dex due to it, should I dump all cha as well and wear a light/med/heavy armor?

The current plan is:

20 / 15 / 12 / 14 / 8 / 7

4 thug, 1 scaled monk, 12 vivi, something for 3 last, not sure.

Detailed leveling breakdown:
Lvl 1: Rogue - Accomplished sneak / TWF
Lvl 2: Monk - Crane Style
Lvl 3: Rogue - Exotic weapon (dueling sword) // weapon focus (dueling sword)
Lvl 4: Rogue - Finesse Training: Dueling sword (doesn't matter much)
Lvl 5: Rogue - Dazzling Display // Double slice
Lvl 6: Alchemist
Lvl 7: Alchemist - Outflank // Feral Bite
Lvl 8: Alchemist
Lvl 9: Alchemist - Improved Two-Weapon Fighting // Enhance Potion
Lvl 10: Alchemist
Lvl 11: Alchemist - Shatter defenses // Feral Wings
Lvl 12: Alchemist
Lvl 13: Alchemist - ???
Lvl 14: Alchemist
Lvl 15: Alchemist - Greater Two-Weapon Fighting // ???
Lvl 16: Alchemist
Lvl 17: Alchemist - Greater Mutagen // ???
Lvl 18: ???
Lvl 19: ???
Lvl 20: ???

If I've done something stupidly or you have other criticism, it's most welcome!


I'm starting to get the feeling I'm shooting myself in the leg super hard cause of the dueling swords. Hopefully it's still doable and ok/good for hard.

Hey man

For starters, thanks for sharing your expertise with us plebs and for your time. Its really appreciated.

So, I'm thinking of playing the game on unfair with a trio. probably mc and two mercs and preferably with a high charisma aasimar human or tiefling MC

How would you go about that?

Cheers

Hey mate im back again..
since i played a decent amount of hours(nearly 85 in act 1) i found out that druid could be idea as a "cannon" class since you have fey as an enemy. i saw your fay shifter build BUT i want to play a chaotic char and as much i want to get crane style i cant..
in my mind a shifter /companion plus ekun with pet would be a bulldozer party in the beginning. after that i dont know the rest of the party leaving aside the Val since she will be the main tank/support.

is there any possibility to make a shifter /companion build with chaotic alignment (since many story options are locked behind chaotic)?

once again thnx in advance.

Can't stack enough AC without monk. What you can do is a solo degenerate druid complete with kiting things around on spikes with a pet and snoozing while creeping doom kills stuff. Caster druids don't play nice in the party.

When would you take the Sacred Huntmaster levels? Perhaps 6, 7 and 8?

since it's a 3-man 6-8 is fine. Skellie bros will carry you through.

Hello @InEffect

I have read in your OP that you don't do these anymore but at the same time, I found you replying recently in other Pathfinder posts so I am just going to ask and if you say no, then no worries.

I just downloaded Call of The Wild mod with Flanking v2 and Arcane Archer and when I went into the character creator I was completely overwhelmed by the number of possibilities and I was hoping you could help me out?

I am looking for a mix of RP and effectiveness and I just wanted a couple of builds that were still pretty good but which didn't contain LG alignment as a must and which didn't have Monk, Paladin or Vivisector in them.

I am looking for:
A scythe or falchion crit build OR something big with wings and 2hander
An arcane archer single target build, maybe with arcane trickster rogue? But I think the spells to imbue with would be crap
An undead/shadow assassin build OR undead summoner/controller build
And a muahahahahahaha big spells everything burns/melts/blows away (Basically BG2 Expansion timestop spam levels)

If you could link or make one or more of these I would really appreciate it, and if you can't then don't worry about it. you have already done awesome things for this community!

Sincerely a Fan

cotw doesn't do much to the ones you want. That being said most of them are already done.

-If you want big numbers you probably want a saint from unfair guide and not falchions/scythes as those are pretty awful. But I guess you can run a melee sorc with either if you really want to.

-archer build is in unfair guide too

-necro you pretty much take sylvan sorc merc from unfair guide. Just add a bit of dex. Something like 7/16/16/10/7/19 will do

-For big spells take draconic sorc from unfair guide. Works better on merc, but can do on MC, except actually big numbers won't come till you get all the gear and casters don't really need stats beyond what mercs get.

Thank you!

Hello @InEffect !

Planning another run and I'm not sure on which MC to roll ... got two build related questions : )

Is it possible to build a bard with good enough DC to act as main CCer ? Maybe a Spitespawn Tiefling thundercaller abusing (mass) Cacophonous Call and Sound Burst ?

Same question for the divine caster ... any way to build a cleric acting as main CCer ? I know you can get stinking cloud with the water domain but this means no "Guarded Hearth" , not sure this is a sacrifice I'm willing to make ... :(

and since we're talking CCer, do you believe I could run with only 1 "tank" if my team CC is good enough ? Since Valerie is the only decent tank companion and that I'm not planning to play a frontliner this time around.

bonus (and maybe stupid) question : how do you play your Jubi ? I don't believe you're picking the feat to avoid friendly fire with grenade ... aren't you melting your frontliner ?